UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To the Campus Community:
I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups.
This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA.
Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity.
Sincerely,
Gene D. Block Chancellor
what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do
If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction.
If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating.
I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY?
I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot.
If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does.
Maybe you are just stupid and that's why you can't understand, she doesn't just talk about asians using their phones in the library, it's about their parents coming over to cook every weekend to annoy her, them all being relatives etc. She's a retard and I have no idea why would anyone defend her. Considering someone like her can get in - it speaks a ton about the quality of the school.
Lol yeah UCLA is a bad school becuase it has a person with a negative view about a group of people due to bad experiences with that group. Because everyone else at Universities must be so worldly and understanding, things really needed to get your diploma in EE(just making up a random major) you know all those humanities courses with bias views that you must agree with in order to pass the class and that you need to take for EE.
UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To the Campus Community:
I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups.
This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA.
Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity.
Sincerely,
Gene D. Block Chancellor
what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do
If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction.
If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating.
I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY?
I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot.
If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does.
Maybe you are just stupid and that's why you can't understand, she doesn't just talk about asians using their phones in the library, it's about their parents coming over to cook every weekend to annoy her, them all being relatives etc. She's a retard and I have no idea why would anyone defend her. Considering someone like her can get in - it speaks a ton about the quality of the school.
The main, underlying point of her whole video was that she hated the annoying people on their phones in the library. The main point isn't that she hates all Asians. The points, which are what you're dwelling on, were crafted by her in an attempt to explain the phenomenon. I'm not agreeing with her assessment as to why, but I do understand why she chose to make those speculations and inferences.
I'm defending her because she is stupid. But, guess what? Most people are. However, most people who make a stupid mistake don't run the risk of having their lives ruined for the foreseeable future. I have more anger towards people who pretend, or believe, that what she said is important or relevant than the person who put poorly developed thoughts on youtube.
UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To the Campus Community:
I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups.
This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA.
Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity.
Sincerely,
Gene D. Block Chancellor
what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do
If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction.
If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating.
I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY?
I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot.
If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does.
Maybe you are just stupid and that's why you can't understand, she doesn't just talk about asians using their phones in the library, it's about their parents coming over to cook every weekend to annoy her, them all being relatives etc. She's a retard and I have no idea why would anyone defend her. Considering someone like her can get in - it speaks a ton about the quality of the school.
The main, underlying point of her whole video was that she hated the annoying people on their phones in the library. The main point isn't that she hates all Asians. The points, which are what you're dwelling on, were crafted by her in an attempt to explain the phenomenon. I'm not agreeing with her assessment as to why, but I do understand why she chose to make those speculations and inferences.
I'm defending her because she is stupid. But, guess what? Most people are. However, most people who make a stupid mistake don't run the risk of having their lives ruined for the foreseeable future. I have more anger towards people who pretend, or believe, that what she said is important or relevant than the person who put poorly developed thoughts on youtube.
It's pretty obvious that the video's statement wasn't merely directed to people on phones in the library who coincidentally are asian. The referral to "asian hordes" and "learn American manners" is pretty obvious. That undeniably makes a cultural/ethnic statement.
But even if you completely ignored all of that, the way in which she put those statements is still entirely problematic because they reveal an underlying issue with her attitude towards culture, aka the "ching chong" etc. For instance, if I was referring to some random people who were causing a disturbance in the neighborhood and they happened to be black, even if I wasn't making a categorical statement about African-Americans, it would still be wholly inappropriate to reference them with the N-label. Personally, I just found it completely stupid, but I'm a pretty mellow guy and I can reasonably see how many would take active offense.
On March 15 2011 14:33 buickskylark wrote:mod delete
Wow, what she did was a dick move, but I don't think this is necessary. Think of all the other dick moves that'll be perpetrated by assholes on the internet with this information. It would be like, a dick avalanche.
Hey, it's a thread about education so i'm merely educating people by throwing a few facts out there. What you do with those facts is entirely up to you and all consequences will be on your shoulders.
there are people in politics who are pretty racist, so just because she's in the political science field spewing these kinds of remarks doesnt mean she cant become a politician in the future. not that i want her to become one, though.
If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating.
Two wrongs don't make a right. /cliche
I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY?
Because she, on multiple occasions in the video makes sweeping generalizations of the "hordes" of Asians that are accepted into UCLA, about how they all, and she said all, bring their family in to do things. In general, aren't Asian families very family oriented? Why is this a bad thing? Why is she bringing it up if she doesn't have a problem with it?
I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot.
Why do people like you get up in arms to attack people's opinions on forums, where discussion is the prime point? Shoot, there's really nothing wrong with that but I feel you could get more out of discussion if you weren't attacking the discussion itself instead of taking a position in the topic.
If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does.
Are you waving your cock around with the reference to inferential statistics, and for what reason if so? Inferential statistics still necessitates data to make an inference from, something she probably doesn't have and if so, it's most likely worthless. She's going off memories that she's most likely applying a very biased and intolerant schema to. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if only one or two Asians did this on occasion and she just thinks it's all of them, or when someone who wasn't Asian did it, she just assumed it was an Asian without really paying attention. And why she couldn't confront them about it is pretty bad, and not very mannerly, which completely contradicts her point about American manners that they should apply.
That's my belief though, again analysis on this requires either more expertise or actually knowing what was going on, both of which none of us here has.
What makes it worse is how dodgy she was, I could tell she was just trying to make sure she didn't sound too harsh or racist by saying things like (not exact) "Even if you aren't Asian, shouldn't be talking," and "I'm okay with this now." I feel like she's trying to fool us so she doesn't look bad but still rants off. She also apparently has apologized according to one of the reposted videos (as the original went private to hide it) so I'm sure she'll learn. I have no malice towards her, but this is a good example of ignorant babble you should think about before you actually start spouting off.
I agree it's not a big deal in the end, and I'm not morbidly upset by her, but frankly I've become very aware recently of how some people in the US seem to think about Asians and it's pretty disturbing to see and I feel like I understand why foreigners tend to find Americans ignorant, because there is a vocal population that is pretty ignorant. Sorry, I'm going off topic.
People need to grow some skin, just because someone says something about a race doesnt mean you got to flip shit. I thought it was funny, does this change my opinion on asians? no. Do i care if people target white people? No. Just take it for what it is, have a laugh and quit giving it so much attention and it wouldnt be a big deal.
On March 17 2011 04:07 g.o- wrote: I think this is the best/funniest response to the original video lol
On March 17 2011 07:35 Wasteweiser wrote: People need to grow some skin, just because someone says something about a race doesnt mean you got to flip shit. I thought it was funny, does this change my opinion on asians? no. Do i care if people target white people? No. Just take it for what it is, have a laugh and quit giving it so much attention and it wouldnt be a big deal.
Just because you don't care, it doesn't mean other people shouldn't care. You're not exactly the best example for people's moral compass. These types of videos encourages ignorance towards other people. While you can argue some of the things she says are true, it is still true that most of the reasoning for her rant is because of her ignorance towards that certain ethnicity.
Her targeting the people "checking in on everybody on the tsunami thing" just shows her lack of manners. So much for her claim "as a polite, nice American girl her momma raise her to be".
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