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lIlIlIlIlIlI
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
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koreasilver
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Also, I have a black friend. | ||
Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
"It pisses me off when people talk on their phones in the study area of a library" = completely reasonable "all asians do xxxxxx" = wtf!? Are you seriously studying political science *and* talking in this manner? Poor girl is probably too stupid to realize how stupid she is and will never change. Edit: As a white person living in an area with tons of asians, I can try to explain some of the anti-asian stereotyping such as this. This is of course based on the OP's request. *disclaimer* I neither espouse or condone any of the following views. The next few lines are merely my interpretation of the reasoning of asian haters. Some of it is based on conversations that I've overheard or been a part of (the listening side obv) Asian people have different customs and manners, and do not conform to standards of the society in which they move to. As such they are ignorant to what would be considered socially acceptable in a lot of cases- OK I can see this to an extent... but it is not an issue for Asian people only. There are so many people living in my city (Toronto) who have been here more than 20 years and can barely speak a word of English (or French). I think its pretty stupid to move to a country and refuse to learn the official language and culture there. Pretty lazy and narrow-minded imo. However - not only asian people do this so its a pretty ignorant/narrow way to put the criticism. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
people on cellphones in the library should die | ||
Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
Ok so here at the GSL it's almost the finals. So I'm not the most skilled player, but I don't mean this rant toward any of my clanmates. it's toward random ladder noobs I don't even know. The problem is these hoards of bronze leaguers that Bnet 2.0 has, which is fine, but if you're going to play StarCraft...be manner! It bothers me that all the noobies around me, and their coaches, their casters, and their practice partners, show up in the channel every weekend to theorycraft, practice cheese, and circle jerk about their strats. It's seriously..without fail. You'll see these noobs in this channel every weekend without fail. These coaches don't teach these players to play standard. They also don't teach these kids how to be manner, which brings me to my next point. Hi, on the American servers, we always gg when we leave our games! Every 15 minutes, I'll be really deep into my macro, my theorycraft, like microing all my units with my apm, blah blah blah, then all of a sudden when I'm about to max at 200/200, over here from somewhere... OOOOOHH YOU NOOBIE TERRAN USER OP NO SKILL Are you freaking kidding me? In the middle of a ladder game? So being the polite, nice, American SC2 player my nerds raised me to be, I did what anyone else would do and be like "hey...it's a ladder game...manner up plz." Then it's the same thing the next game later, I swear these newbs are going through everyone on the ladder just BMing everyone auditioning for the...NASL thing...OK I know that sounds horrible I feel bad for all those nerds who had to make those videos, but if you're going to BM you might as well chill out outside if you're gonna freak out in game. So...thanks for reading. That was my rant, even if you're not in bronze league you shouldn't be BMing on the ladder...so...thank you for reading, and have a nice day. <3 | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
Random chinese people talking loudly on their phones in the library piss me off. And her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. | ||
itzme_petey
United States1400 Posts
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dasanivan
United States532 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: I am asian american but I actually agree with her points, despite her appearing and sounding like a valley girl or something. Random chinese people talking loudly on their phones in the library piss me off. And her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. please, have some dignity | ||
skronch
United States2717 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:03 dasanivan wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: I am asian american but I actually agree with her points, despite her appearing and sounding like a valley girl or something. Random chinese people talking loudly on their phones in the library piss me off. And her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. please, have some dignity ??? lighten up | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: And her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. get on your knees while you're at it | ||
kaisr
Canada715 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:03 skronch wrote: lol saw this make the rounds on my friends' facebook pages and finally decided to watch it. though it was going to be something horribly offensive but its just some stuck up bitch trying to make a reasonable point in a pretty insensitive manner. am i missing something? yeh thats pretty accurate. It was pretty legitimately funny imo, way less offensive/awkward/hateful than I expected (except for the tsunami thing) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49626 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:03 itzme_petey wrote: Its alright. Blonde big tits and studying political science. OBVIOUSLY LYING. lol was going to say the same thing + Show Spoiler + I was only looking at the tits and not listening to her at all,mostly because of this I like big boobs,and I cannot lie. | ||
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: I am asian american but I actually agree with her points, despite her appearing and sounding like a valley girl or something. Random chinese people talking loudly on their phones in the library piss me off. And her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. What's with white people thinking Chinese people say ching chong ding dong? I don't even know what chinese words they derived it from. | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable too much political correctedness is counter-productive as long as she doesn't hold a genuine hatred against all asians or something, i am ok with her making impressions of chinese people talking in the library | ||
The_LiNk
Canada863 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
This is just a case of people thinking that because they can put something on the Internet, they should put something on the internet. Also, I'm a white male, so to answer the OP's question, I don't understand how people can act like that either, and I don't think that's a general feeling. | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
but it is true that people talking annoyingly in the libraries tend to be asians (chinese) although this may have to do with the fact that asians frequent libraries more than other races the point still stands from what she has encountered from asians in UCLA, i would say her response is perfectly reasonable the issue is, she hasn't really had a well-balanced exposure so i guess in that sense, she is ignorant but it only seems like she has a mild grudge against a specific sub-group of asians (asians in ucla who talk in the library in the phone/or have meals prepared by their mothers), i think it's acceptable | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
general sentiment here seems to be "fuck that bitch" | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:10 phosphorylation wrote: ... what are you guys' problem? way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable too much political correctedness is counter-productive as long as she doesn't hold a genuine hatred against all asians or something, i am ok with her making impressions of chinese people talking in the library O wow. You are just as bad as her. | ||
Nfi
United States357 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
which is probably limited -- and hence misleading | ||
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:12 phosphorylation wrote: as noted before, i am asian but it is true that people talking annoyingly in the libraries tend to be asians (chinese) although this may have to do with the fact that asians frequent libraries more than other races I would have substituted that with korean. | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:15 Nfi wrote: I'm sorry how do people like this get into UCLA? I am honestly confused I mean I may not know much about this person but from this 3 minute video I can say what in the FUCK is going on here? This has to be a joke and political science? Dumb fucking bitch burn in a fire this makes me MAD AS FUCK knowing I probably will not get into UCLA due to my bad GPA but there is no way in fucking hell this dumb bitch studying political science deserves to be in UCLA. Sorry just venting. UCLA is like high masters' league, you're in the top 1-2% and it sounds impressive but it doesn't mean much. Ivy League is like going to Korea and competing in GSL. So just like you have random cheesers in high masters, you have people like her at UCLA. | ||
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
i'd still f**k her though :x | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:10 phosphorylation wrote: ... what are you guys' problem? way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable too much political correctedness is counter-productive as long as she doesn't hold a genuine hatred against all asians or something, i am ok with her making impressions of chinese people talking in the library There's a difference between making an effort to do away with affirmative action for true equality and fellating a broken way of thinking to retain a hierarchical status quo. | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:16 phosphorylation wrote: it was reasonable based on what she had a chance to encounter at ucla which is probably limited -- and hence misleading And yet you support her making wild generalizations off of a "probably limited" exposure; a "misleading" experience built off of ignorance. Cool. | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
is she ignorant? yes is she acting irrationally based on her limited exposure of asians at ucla? not really, considering that she probably came from a hicktown in middle of usa and her experiences with asians are limited to these things only, she is not acting too out of line (that is, i am assuming she doesn't have a full-blown hate against asians thing going on) besides, she does have a point about people talking on the phones in the library | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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koreasilver
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BlackJack
United States10259 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:10 The_LiNk wrote: She would have been so successful if she replaced "Asian" with "people" and "Ching Chong" with "Hurr Durr." If by successful you mean getting a fraction of the video views she is currently getting then you are right | ||
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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dasanivan
United States532 Posts
sure, too much political correctness isn't always great but "ching chong ling long?" c'mon man. don't let people step on us. | ||
synapse
China13814 Posts
manners, I guess? | ||
dasanivan
United States532 Posts
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skronch
United States2717 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:26 randomKo_Orean wrote: Secondly, her commentary on the Japanese quake would have had at least 1/2 of the Asian population down her throat if they had the chance. i don't think its just asians that want to be "down her throat" | ||
Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
lol what the ufck. | ||
dasanivan
United States532 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. lmao i'm dying right now | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
so if she made an insensitive remark about the japanese tsunami, then that is indeed out of line and would change my perspective significantly but i still disagree about this whole discrimination/stereotyping thing stereotyping is core to all humans -- people will deny this all the time -- but it's a way for people to cope with the world... by drawing on patterns; of course, this is not limited to racial profiling. In that sense, everyone IS racist. of course, if this leads to discrimination or full-blown (unconditional) hatred against a group, that is a big problem but otherwise, this sort of (and not entirely baseless) generalizing is IMO quite harmless and possibly comedic -- and comedy is good | ||
dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:29 skronch wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:26 randomKo_Orean wrote: Secondly, her commentary on the Japanese quake would have had at least 1/2 of the Asian population down her throat if they had the chance. i don't think its just asians that want to be "down her throat" Agreed. anyway I can understand where she comes from... the worst for me is when they get into groups of 5-8 in the library and just talk when others try to study... i mean they see it as a hang out spot while i see it as a quite place to study... but no its not limited to just asains but i will admit they are the largest part of the population... | ||
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
칭청링렁팅텅 매너 없는 코리안 칭청링렁팅텅 | ||
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. Rofl, this made my day. | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities | ||
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. amazing | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities Because she's an idiot, not because her generalization has a great point. I mean 칭청링렁팅텅 | ||
dasanivan
United States532 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities gonna have to agree to a certain point in light of this | ||
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Lovedrop
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
I went to UWaterloo for my undergrad, and there's a big library called DC (or "Downtown China", or "Club DC") that I used to go before midterms and finals. That place is ridiculously packed with Asians ("fobby Chinese" and Koreans mostly), and they came in hordes, eight plus. They would all dress up a little bit (hence "Club DC") and drink bubble tea while talking and laughing (some Korean dudes also played SC, which I respected) while I was running around trying to find a vacant table. There was one time, a group of aforementioned people held a fucking birthday party in a group study room (in the basement, beside the magazines and couches if you know what I'm talking about), with cakes, candles and lights turned off, are you fucking kidding me? Anyway, that's my rant about Asians. This girl raised some valid points, but she just presented them in a horrible way. Big boobs were nice to look at while I was hearing her rant. | ||
buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:36 koreasilver wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities Because she's an idiot, not because her generalization has a great point. I mean 칭청링렁팅텅 obviously this isn't funny, because of her point its funny because imitating people (badly) is inherently hilarious | ||
kaisr
Canada715 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:37 Cambium wrote: There was one time, a group of aforementioned people held a fucking birthday party in a group study room, with cakes, candles and lights turned off, are you fucking kidding me? HAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. This made my day. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. Lol she just got trolled so hard! Haha! ![]() | ||
Fzero
United States1503 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:38 phosphorylation wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:36 koreasilver wrote: On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities Because she's an idiot, not because her generalization has a great point. I mean 칭청링렁팅텅 obviously this isn't funny, because of her point its funny because imitating people (badly) is inherently hilarious But you said here that her imitation is actually "pretty good" On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. ![]() and On March 14 2011 13:10 phosphorylation wrote: ... what are you guys' problem? way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable | ||
DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: I am asian american but I actually agree with her points, despite her appearing and sounding like a valley girl or something. Random chinese people talking loudly on their phones in the library piss me off. And her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. youre an idiot User was warned for this post | ||
Game
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She's a properly mannered girl, because her mother raised her to be OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PING PANG CHONG CHANG. | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:44 Cambium wrote: Personally, I thought it sounded like she started off with Chinese then ended with Korean. I thought it went more from Mandarin to Cantonese, lol. | ||
deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. roflllll so good hahahaha! | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
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Trowabarton756
United States870 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:42 koreasilver wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:38 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:36 koreasilver wrote: On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities Because she's an idiot, not because her generalization has a great point. I mean 칭청링렁팅텅 obviously this isn't funny, because of her point its funny because imitating people (badly) is inherently hilarious But you said here that her imitation is actually "pretty good" Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. ![]() and Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:10 phosphorylation wrote: ... what are you guys' problem? way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable ... if you are going to editorialize on my hastily written posts by putting it out of context like that.. i will break it down for you it was "pretty good" because it had much comedic potential -- that is, it was bad (but not bad enough to be completely silly and unfunny) her complaint and stereotyping are "reasonable" based on what she had a chance to encounter -- which was limited and skewed; and therefore, depsite being reasonable in her case, it would also be ignorant in the larger context. Actually, the complaint portion, at least, is reasonable, in any context. and i admitted that i did not notice that she mentioned the japanese disaster and that would change my perspectives a bit get it? now, do something more productive than obessing over my posts | ||
DrivE
United States2554 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. omfgg this is so good lmao the background music is seriously amazing | ||
Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:47 semantics wrote: it's a shame she doesn't talk with an inflection at the end of her sentences. Also at everyone who complains about this but then says i'd do her i find you just as bad. I'd do her but only if the song was playing in the background on repeat. | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:47 semantics wrote: it's a shame she doesn't talk with an inflection at the end of her sentences. Also at everyone who complains about this but then says i'd do her i find you just as bad. Having sex with a person doesn't necessarily mean you approve of all their faults, in fact it means nothing because it's not like you're marrying the person. A one night stand with her would be nice, not because of her social views, but because of dem tits. | ||
Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: Nice! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. ![]() Is it just me guys or was the best part of the video staring at her massive tits? | ||
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:53 Jimmeh wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:47 semantics wrote: it's a shame she doesn't talk with an inflection at the end of her sentences. Also at everyone who complains about this but then says i'd do her i find you just as bad. I'd do her but only if the song was playing in the background on repeat. that song is a plague i need to play some Avril lavgrine to get that catchy outta my head. On March 14 2011 13:53 Murderotica wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:47 semantics wrote: it's a shame she doesn't talk with an inflection at the end of her sentences. Also at everyone who complains about this but then says i'd do her i find you just as bad. Having sex with a person doesn't necessarily mean you approve of all their faults, in fact it means nothing because it's not like you're marrying the person. A one night stand with her would be nice, not because of her social views, but because of dem tits. Yeah but instead of racists your just misogynists reducing a person down to set object just being a different kind of bad. | ||
Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:55 randomKo_Orean wrote: LOOOOOOL Nice find!!! | ||
AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:50 phosphorylation wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:42 koreasilver wrote: On March 14 2011 13:38 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:36 koreasilver wrote: On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities Because she's an idiot, not because her generalization has a great point. I mean 칭청링렁팅텅 obviously this isn't funny, because of her point its funny because imitating people (badly) is inherently hilarious But you said here that her imitation is actually "pretty good" On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. ![]() and On March 14 2011 13:10 phosphorylation wrote: ... what are you guys' problem? way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable ... if you are going to editorialize on my hastily written posts by putting it out of context like that.. i will break it down for you it was "pretty good" because it had much comedic potential -- that is, it was bad (but not bad enough to be completely silly and unfunny) her complaint and stereotyping are "reasonable" based on what she had a chance to encounter -- which was limited and skewed; and therefore, depsite being reasonable in her case, it would also be ignorant in the larger context. Actually, the complaint portion, at least, is reasonable, in any context. and i admitted that i did not notice that she mentioned the japanese disaster and that would change my perspectives a bit get it? now, do something more productive than obessing over my posts I'm sorry, but if we go through your posts chronologically in this thread you go from full out supportive to the sort of pussyfooting apologetics that you're engaging in now. Either you really don't know what you're on about or you're spineless. Either is embarrassing. | ||
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:58 semantics wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:53 Jimmeh wrote: On March 14 2011 13:47 semantics wrote: it's a shame she doesn't talk with an inflection at the end of her sentences. Also at everyone who complains about this but then says i'd do her i find you just as bad. I'd do her but only if the song was playing in the background on repeat. that song is a plague i need to play some Avril lavgrine to get that catchy outta my head. Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:53 Murderotica wrote: On March 14 2011 13:47 semantics wrote: it's a shame she doesn't talk with an inflection at the end of her sentences. Also at everyone who complains about this but then says i'd do her i find you just as bad. Having sex with a person doesn't necessarily mean you approve of all their faults, in fact it means nothing because it's not like you're marrying the person. A one night stand with her would be nice, not because of her social views, but because of dem tits. Yeah but instead of racists your just misogynists reducing a person down to set object just being a different kind of bad. agreed. it is equally as "bad" or "not bad," since you are just substituting race with gender i ask that you at least be consistent with your beliefs | ||
DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:54 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Show nested quote + Nice! On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. ![]() Is it just me guys or was the best part of the video staring at her massive tits? im pretty sure she was getting some help from victorias secret, so no, not massive ![]() that song.... im speechless lol | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On March 14 2011 14:00 koreasilver wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:50 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:42 koreasilver wrote: On March 14 2011 13:38 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:36 koreasilver wrote: On March 14 2011 13:35 phosphorylation wrote: On March 14 2011 13:34 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. LOL omfg im dying right now ROFL this is what i mean if you aren't so tight-assed about being political correct all the time, it can lend to golden comedic opportunities Because she's an idiot, not because her generalization has a great point. I mean 칭청링렁팅텅 obviously this isn't funny, because of her point its funny because imitating people (badly) is inherently hilarious But you said here that her imitation is actually "pretty good" On March 14 2011 13:01 phosphorylation wrote: her impression of a chinese person talking on the phone cracked me up -- that is, it was pretty good. ![]() and On March 14 2011 13:10 phosphorylation wrote: ... what are you guys' problem? way too sensitive her complaint is reasonable and whatever, her stereotyping was also reasonable ... if you are going to editorialize on my hastily written posts by putting it out of context like that.. i will break it down for you it was "pretty good" because it had much comedic potential -- that is, it was bad (but not bad enough to be completely silly and unfunny) her complaint and stereotyping are "reasonable" based on what she had a chance to encounter -- which was limited and skewed; and therefore, depsite being reasonable in her case, it would also be ignorant in the larger context. Actually, the complaint portion, at least, is reasonable, in any context. and i admitted that i did not notice that she mentioned the japanese disaster and that would change my perspectives a bit get it? now, do something more productive than obessing over my posts I'm sorry, but if we go through your posts chronologically in this thread you go from full out supportive to the sort of pussyfooting apologetics that you're engaging in now. Either you really don't know what you're on about or you're spineless. Either is embarrassing. don't sweat it bro my perspective has changed ONLY (in regards to what type of person she is, not on my views on generalizing or stereotyping )because i wasn't aware of her mentioning the tsunami the only reason you think it completely changed is because you misconstrued my initial posts, which were strongly worded (and hence, much easier for people to misinterpet it). since so many people were reading into it wrong, i had to explain what i have meant with more words, which probably communicates my actual views better to people who get riled up too easily -- but writing fully-fleshed out perspectives is not as fun and is time consuming. | ||
Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:37 Cambium wrote: I'm Chinese (moved to Canada when I was 11) I went to UWaterloo for my undergrad, and there's a big library called DC (or "Downtown China", or "Club DC") that I used to go before midterms and finals. That place is ridiculously packed with Asians ("fobby Chinese" and Koreans mostly), and they came in hordes, eight plus. They would all dress up a little bit (hence "Club DC") and drink bubble tea while talking and laughing (some Korean dudes also played SC, which I respected) while I was running around trying to find a vacant table. There was one time, a group of aforementioned people held a fucking birthday party in a group study room (in the basement, beside the magazines and couches if you know what I'm talking about), with cakes, candles and lights turned off, are you fucking kidding me? Anyway, that's my rant about Asians. This girl raised some valid points, but she just presented them in a horrible way. Big boobs were nice to look at while I was hearing her rant. waterlooooo u still go to school here? we have a pretty sweet sc/sc2 group on topic: Its safe to say that over half the people at any time in waterloo's DC library are asian. In any case I used to study there in the "silent" zone and I didn't really have a problem with cellphones, but I couldn't go 5 minutes without hearing people WHISPERING to eachother. They think they're being quiet, but wow.. theres nothing more distracting for me than listening to that. It was pretty much like that every time, I eventually decided its just a shitty place to do work. I'm easily distracted so I definitely understand her rant. I just study in my res or in a cafeteria, where its all echoed white noise.. find it alot easier to concentrate. | ||
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United States10328 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:55 randomKo_Orean wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiEvmr3I-Ik rofl what a baller | ||
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Souma
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
check out those boobs; that is attention to detail | ||
Batssa
United States154 Posts
<-- I'm white | ||
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Singapore236 Posts
anyone reading this thread who hasn't clicked the link: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true do it now! | ||
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On March 14 2011 13:30 Amnesia wrote: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=838120&songID=10392988&showPlayer=true lol what the ufck. Roffle,soo good. | ||
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Candide
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Lol some fb friends of mine found this XD | ||
FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On March 14 2011 15:32 Candide wrote: http://www.modelmayhem.com/871307 Lol some fb friends of mine found this XD Oh my god...the motherload | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
What is your problem with Asians? Do you think you have more of a right to be in this country then other Asian US CITIZENS? Anyone wondering what this is all about, just watch this video of "Allie" hating on Asians at UCLA: | ||
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Profitlol
United States94 Posts
Here are some examples at my university: 1. Ipod Music person - plays music so sound in ear phones that the whole row of cubicles can hear 2. Cell phone person - no need for explanation here 3. Guy who plays video games/facebook during peak times in computer lab | ||
Supamang
United States2298 Posts
Yea, she has a valid complaint, but I wouldnt make the argument that it wasnt an offensively racist rant. I mean, shes supposed to be talking about asians in the library, but she goes off about how family visits make asians horrible people. Oh, and apparently living in a foreign country that doesnt speak your language makes you unable to fend for yourself. Oh, and apparently all asians are immigrants. i also used to be apologetic about my race to the point of willfully ignoring and accommodating towards racially offensive comments and viewpoints. please dont be that guy | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
i just think it is ridiuclous that people get so riled up over a rather uninformed (and somewhat airheaded) but relatively harmless girl ranting about (actually) a reasonable complaint (that of asians talking on the phone in library and having their family always coming to babysit them, both of which have some truth in them) ok, the comment about tsunami isn't harmless, but i didn't hear it when i watched it quickly mostly, i saw potential for comedic gold -- and indeed, comedy was delivered | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
that song is so good | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On March 14 2011 15:54 phosphorylation wrote: this has nothing to do with being apologetic.. i just think it is ridiuclous that people get so riled up over a rather uninformed (and somewhat airheaded) but relatively harmless girl ranting about (actually) a reasonable complaint (that of asians talking on the phone in library and having their family always coming to babysit them, both of which have some truth in them) ok, the comment about tsunami isn't harmless, but i didn't hear it when i watched it quickly mostly, i saw potential for comedic gold -- and indeed, comedy was delivered im taiwanese american but i dont see my parents that often and i never had them visit me throughout my whole undergraduate career. a lot of my friends are asian, but i rarely see or hear about their family visiting. and besides that, whats wrong with always having their family visiting? this video was supposed to be about being disturbed during finals week, but somehow she goes off on asian families visiting. she also assumes that every asian is an immigrant with her condescending, "hey guys, in america, we do blah blah blah bullshit" honestly, i laughed at the video the first time i watched it too, but if it was someone of importance or of at least average intelligence i probably wouldnt have found it funny whatsoever. yea, if she kept her complaint to people talking loudly on phones in the library thered be no problem. instead, she mocked asians, went into unrelated bs, and treated us like foreigners. | ||
ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
On March 14 2011 13:03 itzme_petey wrote: Its alright. Blonde big tits and studying political science. OBVIOUSLY LYING. lol that's pretty lame but that's what I thought immediately :p She doesn't look like the average political science nerd ... | ||
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About the tsunami stuff -- we're all selfish -- but who wants to admit that they value study time more than a stranger's emotional well-being? Same thing with family visits, etc. etc. She's guilty of excessive candor and a good bit of stereotyping, but who isn't (of the latter, at least)? There's a good bit of this in the thread already (pretty female can't be majoring in X, she's stupid hurrrr, and so on). | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On March 14 2011 16:33 ChApFoU wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:03 itzme_petey wrote: Its alright. Blonde big tits and studying political science. OBVIOUSLY LYING. lol that's pretty lame but that's what I thought immediately :p She doesn't look like the average political science nerd ... Poli sci is not a nerdy major at UCLA, I doubt anyone who goes here doubts she's doing poli sci. | ||
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On March 14 2011 16:33 ChApFoU wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 13:03 itzme_petey wrote: Its alright. Blonde big tits and studying political science. OBVIOUSLY LYING. lol that's pretty lame but that's what I thought immediately :p She doesn't look like the average political science nerd ... This has to be the first time I heard political science together with nerd. | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On March 14 2011 16:05 randomKo_Orean wrote: This girl's video is exploding for UCSD/UCLA and other universities with significant Asian population, as people are posting in their facebook profiles to waste time instead of studying for finals. Ohhhhhhhhh this could get interesting ^ Yep, making me waste time reading this thread instead of studying... Damn it. ![]() | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Also, I'm Asian too. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On March 14 2011 16:58 T.O.P. wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 16:33 ChApFoU wrote: On March 14 2011 13:03 itzme_petey wrote: Its alright. Blonde big tits and studying political science. OBVIOUSLY LYING. lol that's pretty lame but that's what I thought immediately :p She doesn't look like the average political science nerd ... This has to be the first time I heard political science together with nerd. When I think of political science, i think "obnoxious douchebag" That's just from personal experience though. | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
the only thing that annoyed me at the library (powell) were the groups of people (mostly asian) that smoked outside the entrance, but it doesnt seem as bad anymore | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
I think its very much a cultural difference thing, but asian students (International students who have come over to study, not asian students that have been living in Australia for a while) tend not to be considerate of those around them (or less so than the non-asian students). I studied at one of the universities in Australia that takes a lot of international students, and I experienced what it was like to have groups of asians block walkways and refuse to move for people trying to get past, talking on phones or meeting up and chatting loudly in designated quiet study areas, sit at a 4 seated tables in cafeterias by themselves, using computers that students are supposed to have access to for study for flash games, outright refuse to talk to people who are not asian. Now of course there are probs plenty of white people who did the same and plenty of international students who were considerate of others, but overall, the majority of the time it was one of these international students who was the offending party. They just did not seem to give a fuck about anyone else around them. So Im going to defend this girl because I feel ive been in similar situations and know where shes coming from. Now she probs isn't racist, but is just venting her frustrations. Like she said, it's finals week, and that means theres a lot of extra pressure, which tends to leave people with a shorter fuse than normal. She probs just got back from the library and was still raging about the annoying asian guy talking on his phone disrupting her study. And anyone whos ever been frustrated at anything should know that it's easy to say stupid stuff that really isnt related to a logical argument against what you are angry with. (Think Kramer when he started calling a guy a nigga when he lost his cool) | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
So while there is some truth to this, I don't approve of the way she did it, nor do I approve of everything else she said. | ||
Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
Quite a scary world out there lol. | ||
Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 14 2011 21:15 Fen wrote: I feel bad for acting a bit racist here, but her main point of asians talking in the library i've found is quite true. I think its very much a cultural difference thing, but asian students (International students who have come over to study, not asian students that have been living in Australia for a while) tend not to be considerate of those around them (or less so than the non-asian students). I studied at one of the universities in Australia that takes a lot of international students, and I experienced what it was like to have groups of asians block walkways and refuse to move for people trying to get past, talking on phones or meeting up and chatting loudly in designated quiet study areas, sit at a 4 seated tables in cafeterias by themselves, using computers that students are supposed to have access to for study for flash games, outright refuse to talk to people who are not asian. Now of course there are probs plenty of white people who did the same and plenty of international students who were considerate of others, but overall, the majority of the time it was one of these international students who was the offending party. They just did not seem to give a fuck about anyone else around them. So Im going to defend this girl because I feel ive been in similar situations and know where shes coming from. Now she probs isn't racist, but is just venting her frustrations. Like she said, it's finals week, and that means theres a lot of extra pressure, which tends to leave people with a shorter fuse than normal. She probs just got back from the library and was still raging about the annoying asian guy talking on his phone disrupting her study. And anyone whos ever been frustrated at anything should know that it's easy to say stupid stuff that really isnt related to a logical argument against what you are angry with. (Think Kramer when he started calling a guy a nigga when he lost his cool) Not that I think either one is really excusable, but there is a huge difference between losing your cool in the heat of the moment (The Michael Richards incident) and going home, making a video, and uploading it to Youtube at least minutes, and probably hours after the inciting incident. Yes, these various behaviors are annoying and inconsiderate. However, the proper way to deal with it is to kindly ask the offending party to please stop, not to go home and create a piece of hate speech. If you happen to be too shy to correct someone, I'm sure there are librarians (it is a library, after all). | ||
Taku
Canada2036 Posts
On March 15 2011 04:55 Amnesia wrote: lol the powers of the Internet...her name, address, phone numbers, and e-mail address have been exposed. Quite a scary world out there lol. University-educated Asians is a group better off not provoked ontop of the internet in general wouldn't you say? But yeah this is so bad it's hilarious, I still can't believe people are trying to defend her though ಠ_ಠ | ||
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. | ||
I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. | ||
Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:34 Rho_ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. | ||
Rokusha
United States207 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 06:34 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. Personally if she is that stupid to make racist comments on a youtube video for everyone to see, then she deserves it. She isn't some naive middle schooler. She is an adult. And unfortunately she probably will be learning the hard way that saying things like this publicly will have consequences. If a white person made a video on youtube about black people being obnoxiously loud and always knocking up girls and leaving them etc., there would be a huge shit storm even though some of the stereotypes are backed by statistics (okay not the being loud part). I see no reason she should get special treatment for being dumb and making racists remarks about Asians. | ||
I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:55 Rokusha wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 06:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:34 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. Personally if she is that stupid to make racist comments on a youtube video for everyone to see, then she deserves it. She isn't some naive middle schooler. She is an adult. And unfortunately she probably will be learning the hard way that saying things like this publicly will have consequences. If a white person made a video on youtube about black people being obnoxiously loud and always knocking up girls and leaving them etc., there would be a huge shit storm even though some of the stereotypes are backed by statistics (okay not the being loud part). I see no reason she should get special treatment for being dumb and making racists remarks about Asians. Your implication that I would care more if it were non-asians is insulting to me. I don't give a flying fuck in general. Any group of people, race or otherwise, could be targeted in this manner and I wouldn't care in the slightest. Is she an idiot for framing her statements the way she did? Yes, but that doesn't make her overly racist, which is what she'll be labeled, just an idiot. slight addendum/edit: You might not be suggesting that directly at me, but saying it as a whole I think is ridiculous. Instead of framing the discussion in that way simply change her comment from the ching-chong-ting-long or whatever to speaking in ebonics. There'd still be a shit storm, and it would still be undeserved. | ||
Rokusha
United States207 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:59 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 06:55 Rokusha wrote: On March 15 2011 06:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:34 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. Personally if she is that stupid to make racist comments on a youtube video for everyone to see, then she deserves it. She isn't some naive middle schooler. She is an adult. And unfortunately she probably will be learning the hard way that saying things like this publicly will have consequences. If a white person made a video on youtube about black people being obnoxiously loud and always knocking up girls and leaving them etc., there would be a huge shit storm even though some of the stereotypes are backed by statistics (okay not the being loud part). I see no reason she should get special treatment for being dumb and making racists remarks about Asians. Your implication that I would care more if it were non-asians is insulting to me. I don't give a flying fuck in general. Any group of people, race or otherwise, could be targeted in this manner and I wouldn't care in the slightest. Is she an idiot for framing her statements the way she did? Yes, but that doesn't make her overly racist, which is what she'll be labeled, just an idiot. slight addendum/edit: You might not be suggesting that directly at me, but saying it as a whole I think is ridiculous. Instead of framing the discussion in that way simply change her comment from the ching-chong-ting-long or whatever to speaking in ebonics. There'd still be a shit storm, and it would still be undeserved. Hey, I wasn't directing the white/black thing at you sorry if you thought that way. And I never said she was racist and I don't think she is. I agree she is dumb but she was making racists comments publicly. And I agree that the consequences she can potentially face is unfair. But I strongly believe that as an adult, life has consequences and you have to be ready to face them if you did something wrong. Maybe a public apology by her would be very helpful in smoothing this over. | ||
THE_DOMINATOR
United States309 Posts
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Thrill
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 06:34 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. You're either misunderstanding me or tolling me. No, I am not suggesting it is a lesser crime. My point can be summed up by an equation: (Content of statements)x(forum chosen)=(attention expected). She made comments that she may or may not have understood to be inflammatory(though I am pretty sure she knew to some degree what she was saying was racist and inflammatory, hence the "I am not the most politically correct person" qualification she offered). This gives the content a negative value. She definitely chose her forum (and attire, boobs proudly displayed) for MAXIMUM attention. Therefore, she can expect a lot of negative attention. If she makes the statement to a friend, that friend may or may not say "hey, that's kinda racist", and can expect very little attention. If she makes it to an anonymous forum, some people might call her racist, but they will be mocking and shaming an internet handle that is only relevant in its associated community, not in the real world. She picked YouTube consciously, for a lot of attention, and she got it. | ||
deeshoo
United States319 Posts
^^^ remix. "so sorry!" This cracked me up. It's actually really catchy. edit: oh you already linked it ![]() In all seriousness, I myself am an asian-american UCLA student, and I honestly didn't care or get offended (because some of it is actually true T_T, like the families in the apartments and the talking in the library-i'm one of those kids you'll find in the Asians Sleeping In The Library blog) until she mentioned the earthquake and tsunami disasters. | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
why dont u ppl at least be consistent? | ||
deeshoo
United States319 Posts
from the school paper | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
i bet they can find many more idiots in that school besides her, and many of them are probably not as harmless | ||
Z3kk
4099 Posts
On March 15 2011 09:26 phosphorylation wrote: wow UCLA adminstration is surely overreacting.. i bet they can find many more idiots in that school besides her, and many of them are probably not as harmless They see a need to preserve school esteem/dignity I suppose... | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor | ||
Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: Show nested quote + UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do Disregarding the context of this letter, what, do you want administration to write like school girls? | ||
I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 10:28 randomKo_Orean wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction. If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating. I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY? I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot. If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does. | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
On March 15 2011 10:36 koreasilver wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do Disregarding the context of this letter, what, do you want administration to write like school girls? Hearting the i and writing in purple really does help. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 15 2011 12:35 semantics wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 10:36 koreasilver wrote: On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do Disregarding the context of this letter, what, do you want administration to write like school girls? Hearting the i and writing in purple really does help. So don't let people like this girl say these things at school! <3 xoxo love you lots lol bffls | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
But more on topic, some of the stuff she talks about isn't limited to just Asians. It's the case for a ton of people. People being obnoxiously loud on their phone occurs in blond bimbos just as much as it does in Asian people. She's dumb. | ||
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thehorsebecomesking
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On March 15 2011 12:29 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 10:28 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction. If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating. I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY? I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot. If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does. Maybe you are just stupid and that's why you can't understand, she doesn't just talk about asians using their phones in the library, it's about their parents coming over to cook every weekend to annoy her, them all being relatives etc. She's a retard and I have no idea why would anyone defend her. Considering someone like her can get in - it speaks a ton about the quality of the school. | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On March 15 2011 13:11 thehorsebecomesking wrote: it speaks a ton about the quality of the school. see my earlier point about "high master's league". | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 13:11 thehorsebecomesking wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 12:29 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 10:28 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction. If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating. I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY? I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot. If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does. Maybe you are just stupid and that's why you can't understand, she doesn't just talk about asians using their phones in the library, it's about their parents coming over to cook every weekend to annoy her, them all being relatives etc. She's a retard and I have no idea why would anyone defend her. Considering someone like her can get in - it speaks a ton about the quality of the school. The main, underlying point of her whole video was that she hated the annoying people on their phones in the library. The main point isn't that she hates all Asians. The points, which are what you're dwelling on, were crafted by her in an attempt to explain the phenomenon. I'm not agreeing with her assessment as to why, but I do understand why she chose to make those speculations and inferences. I'm defending her because she is stupid. But, guess what? Most people are. However, most people who make a stupid mistake don't run the risk of having their lives ruined for the foreseeable future. I have more anger towards people who pretend, or believe, that what she said is important or relevant than the person who put poorly developed thoughts on youtube. | ||
LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
On March 15 2011 13:35 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2011 13:11 thehorsebecomesking wrote: On March 15 2011 12:29 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On March 15 2011 10:28 randomKo_Orean wrote: On March 15 2011 10:18 Assault_1 wrote: On March 15 2011 09:41 jalstar wrote: UCLA Office of the Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Campus Community: I am appalled by the thoughtless and hurtful comments of a UCLA student posted on YouTube. Like many of you, I recoil when someone invokes the right of free expression to demean other individuals or groups. This one act certainly does not represent the views of our UCLA community. Our community is built on mutual respect and civility, and we are committed to fostering an environment that values and supports every member of the community. It is most unfortunate that a single clip on the Internet undermines that environment by expressing hurtful and shameful ideas about others in our community. I believe that speech that expresses intolerance toward any group of people on the basis of race or gender, or sexual, religious or cultural identity is indefensible and has no place at UCLA. Let this incident serve as a reminder of our collective responsibility to confront hateful and ignorant speech and to uphold UCLA’s core values of respect and integrity. Sincerely, Gene D. Block Chancellor what a surprise.. in response to a light-hearted video, the administration spews out a generic letter written like a lawyer/robot. I guess thats what they're paid to do If you honestly believe this video was "light-hearted," you suck at social interaction. If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating. I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY? I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot. If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does. Maybe you are just stupid and that's why you can't understand, she doesn't just talk about asians using their phones in the library, it's about their parents coming over to cook every weekend to annoy her, them all being relatives etc. She's a retard and I have no idea why would anyone defend her. Considering someone like her can get in - it speaks a ton about the quality of the school. The main, underlying point of her whole video was that she hated the annoying people on their phones in the library. The main point isn't that she hates all Asians. The points, which are what you're dwelling on, were crafted by her in an attempt to explain the phenomenon. I'm not agreeing with her assessment as to why, but I do understand why she chose to make those speculations and inferences. I'm defending her because she is stupid. But, guess what? Most people are. However, most people who make a stupid mistake don't run the risk of having their lives ruined for the foreseeable future. I have more anger towards people who pretend, or believe, that what she said is important or relevant than the person who put poorly developed thoughts on youtube. It's pretty obvious that the video's statement wasn't merely directed to people on phones in the library who coincidentally are asian. The referral to "asian hordes" and "learn American manners" is pretty obvious. That undeniably makes a cultural/ethnic statement. But even if you completely ignored all of that, the way in which she put those statements is still entirely problematic because they reveal an underlying issue with her attitude towards culture, aka the "ching chong" etc. For instance, if I was referring to some random people who were causing a disturbance in the neighborhood and they happened to be black, even if I wasn't making a categorical statement about African-Americans, it would still be wholly inappropriate to reference them with the N-label. Personally, I just found it completely stupid, but I'm a pretty mellow guy and I can reasonably see how many would take active offense. | ||
Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
On March 15 2011 14:33 buickskylark wrote:mod delete Wow, what she did was a dick move, but I don't think this is necessary. Think of all the other dick moves that'll be perpetrated by assholes on the internet with this information. It would be like, a dick avalanche. | ||
Alexson
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On March 15 2011 14:40 Alexson wrote: She has big titties, and that's all she'll need in life I guess... (see: Kim Kardashian) Yep, nailed it, every girl with big boobs is successful. -_- | ||
rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On March 15 2011 14:33 buickskylark wrote: Name ... ... wtf i was just talking to my friend about this today (we go to ucla), yeah its bad but posting personal info past name and facebook? thats just too far | ||
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RageOverdose
United States690 Posts
On March 15 2011 12:29 I_Love_Bacon wrote: If you honestly believe this is the proper way to get a point across, you suck at debating. Two wrongs don't make a right. /cliche I don't get how people watch this video and somehow perceive it as overt racism directed at every asian person. No, it's not. It is directed at a very specific group, who merely happen to be asian. Do you think her issue is that they speak the ting-tong-ching-long, or that they're speaking IN THE LIBRARY? Because she, on multiple occasions in the video makes sweeping generalizations of the "hordes" of Asians that are accepted into UCLA, about how they all, and she said all, bring their family in to do things. In general, aren't Asian families very family oriented? Why is this a bad thing? Why is she bringing it up if she doesn't have a problem with it? I just don't see how anybody is up in arms over this. I really don't. This political correctness has gone over the edge and once again pushed out common sense in order to accuse somebody of being racist, instead of merely an idiot. Why do people like you get up in arms to attack people's opinions on forums, where discussion is the prime point? Shoot, there's really nothing wrong with that but I feel you could get more out of discussion if you weren't attacking the discussion itself instead of taking a position in the topic. If you want to argue over whether or not it's "appropriate" to stereotype, as she is doing, I believe that is a different discussion. She used her own internal inferential statistics poorly by having a bad sample to draw from. Did she rant too much and meander off topic? Sure, but everybody does. Are you waving your cock around with the reference to inferential statistics, and for what reason if so? Inferential statistics still necessitates data to make an inference from, something she probably doesn't have and if so, it's most likely worthless. She's going off memories that she's most likely applying a very biased and intolerant schema to. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if only one or two Asians did this on occasion and she just thinks it's all of them, or when someone who wasn't Asian did it, she just assumed it was an Asian without really paying attention. And why she couldn't confront them about it is pretty bad, and not very mannerly, which completely contradicts her point about American manners that they should apply. That's my belief though, again analysis on this requires either more expertise or actually knowing what was going on, both of which none of us here has. What makes it worse is how dodgy she was, I could tell she was just trying to make sure she didn't sound too harsh or racist by saying things like (not exact) "Even if you aren't Asian, shouldn't be talking," and "I'm okay with this now." I feel like she's trying to fool us so she doesn't look bad but still rants off. She also apparently has apologized according to one of the reposted videos (as the original went private to hide it) so I'm sure she'll learn. I have no malice towards her, but this is a good example of ignorant babble you should think about before you actually start spouting off. I agree it's not a big deal in the end, and I'm not morbidly upset by her, but frankly I've become very aware recently of how some people in the US seem to think about Asians and it's pretty disturbing to see and I feel like I understand why foreigners tend to find Americans ignorant, because there is a vocal population that is pretty ignorant. Sorry, I'm going off topic. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32028 Posts
On March 17 2011 04:07 g.o- wrote: I think this is the best/funniest response to the original video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOGpGoEMu2s that was actually a really funny response hahahahah she's an idiot but people are trippin way too hard over this | ||
Wasteweiser
Canada522 Posts
On March 17 2011 04:07 g.o- wrote: I think this is the best/funniest response to the original video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOGpGoEMu2s hahaha just watched that, fucking amazing. | ||
sc2lime
Canada513 Posts
On March 17 2011 07:35 Wasteweiser wrote: People need to grow some skin, just because someone says something about a race doesnt mean you got to flip shit. I thought it was funny, does this change my opinion on asians? no. Do i care if people target white people? No. Just take it for what it is, have a laugh and quit giving it so much attention and it wouldnt be a big deal. Show nested quote + On March 17 2011 04:07 g.o- wrote: I think this is the best/funniest response to the original video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOGpGoEMu2s hahaha just watched that, fucking amazing. Just because you don't care, it doesn't mean other people shouldn't care. You're not exactly the best example for people's moral compass. These types of videos encourages ignorance towards other people. While you can argue some of the things she says are true, it is still true that most of the reasoning for her rant is because of her ignorance towards that certain ethnicity. Her targeting the people "checking in on everybody on the tsunami thing" just shows her lack of manners. So much for her claim "as a polite, nice American girl her momma raise her to be". | ||
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lilsusie
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 17 2011 04:07 g.o- wrote: I think this is the best/funniest response to the original video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOGpGoEMu2s I just saw this, his grocery bit was hilarious! However, he says he's born from America, yet refers to how "we" grow our food in the backyard. Just seemed peculiar. Clearly, he's Asian, but he's not from Asia personally. Maybe I'm being picky. | ||
whiterabbit
2675 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 17 2011 18:54 whiterabbit wrote: Well, I just muted her and stared in those fine boobs. ![]() P.S. That song is AWESOME! Check out her bikini modeling. Her breasts are nothing special, she's wearing a push-up. | ||
TheGreatWhiteHope_
United States335 Posts
Haha what a terribly terrible/offensive impersonation. I laughed because it was so bad. The black equivalent would be: "click clack click click" | ||
GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
Personally, I get her frustration. I've had this happen to me in the library as well and LOL they were Asian as well, but I did not make a Youtube video and rant about it. That's why the librarians are there and the people who work there. You tell them that people are being loud and they'll handle it. | ||
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Netherlands12045 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
Most modern Asians are generally pretty respectful and polite and go by the norms but I do notice that people straight from places like Honk Kong, who have recently immigrated to North America, are bit more culturally abrasive (I think it could even be the Cantonese dialect being a bit more tone-orientated that other languages too). But yeah, I don't consider her rant to be that racist... I think it's just Asians overreacting to it because it targets them. If we had subbed in black people for Asians, I don't think the outlash would be as grand. | ||
xbankx
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Lochat
United States270 Posts
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Lochat
United States270 Posts
On March 18 2011 16:39 Masamune wrote: But yeah, I don't consider her rant to be that racist... I think it's just Asians overreacting to it because it targets them. If we had subbed in black people for Asians, I don't think the outlash would be as grand. Think really hard on that and figure out why that would be. Or remove eleven words from my first sentence. | ||
The_LiNk
Canada863 Posts
On March 18 2011 16:39 Masamune wrote: I think her problem was not specifying that her rant was directed towards less Westernized Asians. Most modern Asians are generally pretty respectful and polite and go by the norms but I do notice that people straight from places like Honk Kong, who have recently immigrated to North America, are bit more culturally abrasive (I think it could even be the Cantonese dialect being a bit more tone-orientated that other languages too). But yeah, I don't consider her rant to be that racist... I think it's just Asians overreacting to it because it targets them. If we had subbed in black people for Asians, I don't think the outlash would be as grand. Can I get further incite on your perception of Hong Kong and Cantonese people being culturally...abrasive? What does that even mean? 9 tones versus 4 tones and that means you're... ruder? Is that what you mean by culturally abrasive? | ||
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Singapore6164 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On March 18 2011 16:50 The_LiNk wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 16:39 Masamune wrote: I think her problem was not specifying that her rant was directed towards less Westernized Asians. Most modern Asians are generally pretty respectful and polite and go by the norms but I do notice that people straight from places like Honk Kong, who have recently immigrated to North America, are bit more culturally abrasive (I think it could even be the Cantonese dialect being a bit more tone-orientated that other languages too). But yeah, I don't consider her rant to be that racist... I think it's just Asians overreacting to it because it targets them. If we had subbed in black people for Asians, I don't think the outlash would be as grand. Can I get further incite on your perception of Hong Kong and Cantonese people being culturally...abrasive? What does that even mean? 9 tones versus 4 tones and that means you're... ruder? Is that what you mean by culturally abrasive? I you think the culture norms are the same between North America and Asia, you're kidding yourself. Cantonese (as I've been told and witnessed) is a bit less fluid than say, Mandarin. This may be a reason why this girl gets distracted, because FOBs happen to be less accustomed to the culture here and because of the nature of the language (louder and more tone-orientated). It was an example, but I think my point stands. Let's be critical here and not try to run on emotions. | ||
Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On March 18 2011 16:47 Lochat wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 16:39 Masamune wrote: But yeah, I don't consider her rant to be that racist... I think it's just Asians overreacting to it because it targets them. If we had subbed in black people for Asians, I don't think the outlash would be as grand. Think really hard on that and figure out why that would be. Or remove eleven words from my first sentence. Don't know what you're getting at. Population and internet-culture aside, I tend to notice that a lot of Asians here are very defensive. | ||
MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
But at the same time, alot of the racist remarks she made in that video weren't anything new and are all things I heard in school while growing up in the U.S. I don't understand why people are all of a sudden making such a big deal out of this and even warranting a death threat I read somewhere is just ridiculous. I come from a primarily black community and they make fun of asians too but nobody ever says anything to them cuz they're scared of them. But when a small white girl makes a video on youtube everyone is so quick to jump on the bandwagon. They don't say anything to the black guy but when a helpless girl does it they all just gang up on her. What is up with this double standard? If your gonna hate on this girl, then you also need to hate on every single person that ever made a asian joke and there's a ton out there. Why has this blown so much out of proportion on this one girl when comments like this happens across schools about asians all the time in the U.S.? I guess what im trying to say is, it's fine the asians sticking up for themselves and fighting back but they need to do it EVERYTIME it happens not just when they can hide behind the anonomity of their computer and talk shiit about the girl behind their computers and jump on the bandwagon and not think for themselves. I mean I just can't see this happening in a black school if a black person made this comment. Edit: I forgot this happened in UCLA where I read somewhere it was like 32% white and 37% asian but generally there aren't a group of asians this big in schools in America and things don't get blown out of proportion like this just becuz one asian kid got made fun of. | ||
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