Wow, this pisses me off -- Part 2 - Page 7
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Pibacc
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
the only thing that annoyed me at the library (powell) were the groups of people (mostly asian) that smoked outside the entrance, but it doesnt seem as bad anymore | ||
n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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Antimage
Canada1293 Posts
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
I think its very much a cultural difference thing, but asian students (International students who have come over to study, not asian students that have been living in Australia for a while) tend not to be considerate of those around them (or less so than the non-asian students). I studied at one of the universities in Australia that takes a lot of international students, and I experienced what it was like to have groups of asians block walkways and refuse to move for people trying to get past, talking on phones or meeting up and chatting loudly in designated quiet study areas, sit at a 4 seated tables in cafeterias by themselves, using computers that students are supposed to have access to for study for flash games, outright refuse to talk to people who are not asian. Now of course there are probs plenty of white people who did the same and plenty of international students who were considerate of others, but overall, the majority of the time it was one of these international students who was the offending party. They just did not seem to give a fuck about anyone else around them. So Im going to defend this girl because I feel ive been in similar situations and know where shes coming from. Now she probs isn't racist, but is just venting her frustrations. Like she said, it's finals week, and that means theres a lot of extra pressure, which tends to leave people with a shorter fuse than normal. She probs just got back from the library and was still raging about the annoying asian guy talking on his phone disrupting her study. And anyone whos ever been frustrated at anything should know that it's easy to say stupid stuff that really isnt related to a logical argument against what you are angry with. (Think Kramer when he started calling a guy a nigga when he lost his cool) | ||
Monoxide
Canada1190 Posts
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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tbrown47
United States1235 Posts
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stoptherage
Taiwan36 Posts
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
So while there is some truth to this, I don't approve of the way she did it, nor do I approve of everything else she said. | ||
Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
Quite a scary world out there lol. | ||
Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 14 2011 21:15 Fen wrote: I feel bad for acting a bit racist here, but her main point of asians talking in the library i've found is quite true. I think its very much a cultural difference thing, but asian students (International students who have come over to study, not asian students that have been living in Australia for a while) tend not to be considerate of those around them (or less so than the non-asian students). I studied at one of the universities in Australia that takes a lot of international students, and I experienced what it was like to have groups of asians block walkways and refuse to move for people trying to get past, talking on phones or meeting up and chatting loudly in designated quiet study areas, sit at a 4 seated tables in cafeterias by themselves, using computers that students are supposed to have access to for study for flash games, outright refuse to talk to people who are not asian. Now of course there are probs plenty of white people who did the same and plenty of international students who were considerate of others, but overall, the majority of the time it was one of these international students who was the offending party. They just did not seem to give a fuck about anyone else around them. So Im going to defend this girl because I feel ive been in similar situations and know where shes coming from. Now she probs isn't racist, but is just venting her frustrations. Like she said, it's finals week, and that means theres a lot of extra pressure, which tends to leave people with a shorter fuse than normal. She probs just got back from the library and was still raging about the annoying asian guy talking on his phone disrupting her study. And anyone whos ever been frustrated at anything should know that it's easy to say stupid stuff that really isnt related to a logical argument against what you are angry with. (Think Kramer when he started calling a guy a nigga when he lost his cool) Not that I think either one is really excusable, but there is a huge difference between losing your cool in the heat of the moment (The Michael Richards incident) and going home, making a video, and uploading it to Youtube at least minutes, and probably hours after the inciting incident. Yes, these various behaviors are annoying and inconsiderate. However, the proper way to deal with it is to kindly ask the offending party to please stop, not to go home and create a piece of hate speech. If you happen to be too shy to correct someone, I'm sure there are librarians (it is a library, after all). | ||
Taku
Canada2036 Posts
On March 15 2011 04:55 Amnesia wrote: lol the powers of the Internet...her name, address, phone numbers, and e-mail address have been exposed. Quite a scary world out there lol. University-educated Asians is a group better off not provoked ontop of the internet in general wouldn't you say? But yeah this is so bad it's hilarious, I still can't believe people are trying to defend her though ಠ_ಠ | ||
I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 15 2011 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The fact that this will be blown out of proportion offends me 10000x more than anything she said in that video. She'll be reprimanded and have to deal with this shit for ages now, for what was little more than venting frustration. I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. | ||
I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:05 Rho_ wrote: I think it's deserved. When you and I are frustrated, we vent to people we know, or anonymously to the internet through message boards such as these. She did so publically, to the internet at large, in what is basically a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" video. Well, she's got our collective attention now, doesn't she. What's worse, she should know better (and even hints that she knows that what she is saying is inflammitory when she says 'we all know I'm not the most politically correct person'). If you know what you're saying could be construed as racist (whether or not you intend it), why in gods name would you put it on youtube? I have very little sympathy. So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. | ||
Rho_
United States971 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:23 I_Love_Bacon wrote: So that means the people who will undoubtedly use her personal information to essentially harass her are warranted in doing so because she isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? She made ignorant statements based on personal experiences she had just had that day. Nobody can disagree with the broad point she was making, only with how she directed it. People blowing stupid shit out of proportion as usual. Not to point a finger at overly liberal colleges, but this type of student body getting worked up over ridiculous bull shit is what makes them a joke to everybody not in that circle. I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. | ||
Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:34 Rho_ wrote: I don't condone harassment at all. Mockery and shaming are certainly warranted. However, your outrage at this "being blown out of proportion" is misplaced. If you or I are annoyed about someone in the library, we may tell a friend about it. If we are particularly annoyed, we might even make an anonymous post on an internet message board, or even post something on facebook. However, she chose to take it all the way to Youtube, the king of exposure, because she felt that this offense was so egregious, so heinous, so terrible that everyone needed to know. The response is, if anything, proportional to her initial overreaction. When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. | ||
Rokusha
United States207 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote: When "mockery and shaming" are done with thousands and thousands of people and news outlets, then it's worse than harassment. There's a piece about her on Huffingtonpost and probably many, many more to come on other sites. She will basically have a chance of having some of her life ruined over a tiny, insignificant, and trivial video she made. And if you don't think her life can be ruined (note: slightly dramatizing my point, but not entirely) then you're not looking at the whole picture and what can come of this. I wont comment on the ridiculous logic you used to somehow tie that talking to friends, posting on a message board, or posting something on facebook would make it a lesser crime, but posting on on Youtube? Oh, well then she clearly deserves it. Personally if she is that stupid to make racist comments on a youtube video for everyone to see, then she deserves it. She isn't some naive middle schooler. She is an adult. And unfortunately she probably will be learning the hard way that saying things like this publicly will have consequences. If a white person made a video on youtube about black people being obnoxiously loud and always knocking up girls and leaving them etc., there would be a huge shit storm even though some of the stereotypes are backed by statistics (okay not the being loud part). I see no reason she should get special treatment for being dumb and making racists remarks about Asians. | ||
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