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agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
February 14 2011 03:15 GMT
#221
On February 14 2011 11:30 Tony Campolo wrote:
This will be my final post on this matter, as I feel like I have covered most of the arguments and everyone is obviously tired from the debating. I saw this in the picture says 1,000 words thread:

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In conclusion - it's hard for me to imagine that we are willing to kill one being just so the other can eat it, when we don't need to. If there is anything we can do to reduce the suffering, then we ought to out of compassion and empathy.


Well, plants are also living organisms, and can also feel pain (a whole lot less that an animal though). And we could reduce their suffering by not eating them, and only eat fruits and other non-living food. So you are doing exactly what you described you can't imagine: killing a being just so the other can eat it, when you don't need to.

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I'm not saying that plants are the same as animals.
What's a quote anyway?
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
February 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#222
You're actually going to argue with a picture of a little girl and her pet elephant? Have you no soul?
jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
February 14 2011 03:46 GMT
#223
Imagine for a moment how large an elephant steak would be.
Mondays
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 29 2011 19:06 GMT
#224
This seems appropriate to a vegan discussion. Vegan parents face "neglect or food deprivation followed by death" charges for letting their 11 month old die.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.35c2caa5efa0e183b7b38a2d0e2b7f40.71&show_article=1

It's sad really. The fault for their childs death can only be the parents, I don't see them getting away with a not-guilty.
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 07:10:06
April 04 2011 07:05 GMT
#225
Are you saying i have to have compassion for my food ? -_-; Cause i don't normally cry while i eat. Is that a sin ? /troll

On a more serious note; not eating meat is silly and will weaken your body.

A clear indication that we're supposed to eat meat is the binnocular vision of our eyes. Predators have the eyes at the front to be able to focus on the prey during the chase. Prey has its eyes on the sides so they can see the predator coming.

You can't feed 7 billion people with weeds.
decemberTV
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
April 04 2011 07:21 GMT
#226
maddox already covered this for me, and i'm sure that by now someone has linked or quoted him

but for every animal you don't eat, i'm going to eat three
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
April 04 2011 08:07 GMT
#227
On February 14 2011 12:46 jon arbuckle wrote:
Imagine for a moment how large an elephant steak would be.


If I remember right, it was the Franco-Prussian War when Parisians ate the zoo animals due to the siege. Apparently, elephant is really bad.

Oh yes it was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_and_Pollux_(elephants)


And yeah, I am not giving up ham for breakfast. I've never understood this vegan or vegetarian thing. Still don't, even after having read your posts. How you think humans being treated badly due to racism or sexism is even remotely like breeding and eating cows, pigs, chickens, etc is beyond me.

Kind of reminds me of anarcho-primitivism, except they don't actually care about the animals. I feel like this sort of mentality comes from the mistaken idea humans are evil by existence and somehow outside of nature and imposing ourselves on it, rather than us being a part of nature.
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