• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:03
CEST 23:03
KST 06:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview vespene.gg — BW replays in browser [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies UA StarCraft: Mawin (T) vs hanniGan (P) Showmatch
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1313 users

Quick grammar questions

Blogs > MidasMulligan
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
ecDIESEL
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 03:47:17
February 09 2011 03:46 GMT
#1
A friend of mine wrote "Fuck you, itunes." on her facebook.

Is that the correct way to word it, or should it say "Fuck you itunes."?

Would the comma there imply that itunes was saying "fuck you," or is either way acceptable?
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
February 09 2011 03:50 GMT
#2
No, comma is correct I'm pretty sure. It's directly addressing itunes and It's just a different order of "I-Tunes, fuck you"

I think at least, the more I think about it the more I doubt myself...
You recognise me because of my signature!
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 09 2011 03:51 GMT
#3
On February 09 2011 12:50 Munk-E wrote:
No, comma is correct I'm pretty sure. It's directly addressing itunes and It's just a different order of "I-Tunes, fuck you"

I think at least, the more I think about it the more I doubt myself...


Indeed, quite correct
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
ecDIESEL
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States132 Posts
February 09 2011 03:52 GMT
#4
I was thinking that it's sort of like what you see at the bottom of a letter. If it said "Thanks, tom," it means that tom was saying thanks, so saying "Fuck you, itunes" would be as if itunes were saying fuck you.

Also, I looked through the wikipedia article on comma rules, and I couldn't find anything that would suggest that putting a comma there was okay.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
February 09 2011 03:52 GMT
#5
The comma is correct.

A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.:

I love you, mom.

or

Billy Bob, did you see that UFO?
If it were not so, I would have told you.
ecDIESEL
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States132 Posts
February 09 2011 03:53 GMT
#6
On February 09 2011 12:52 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The comma is correct.

A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.:

I love you, mom.

or

Billy Bob, did you see that UFO?


Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you?
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
February 09 2011 03:55 GMT
#7
comma is correct. the non comma referential technique is usually just used by teenagers that don't know much better.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 03:57:14
February 09 2011 03:56 GMT
#8
On February 09 2011 12:53 MidasMulligan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 12:52 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The comma is correct.

A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.:

I love you, mom.

or

Billy Bob, did you see that UFO?


Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you?


I get what you are saying, but honestly the "I love you, mom" quote would be if you were saying something to your mom, but indirectly. So going back to the original question. The comma is fine. However, if writing an email to itunes directly... I am pretty sure you can just write "Fuck you itunes".
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
February 09 2011 03:58 GMT
#9
On February 09 2011 12:46 MidasMulligan wrote:
A friend of mine wrote "Fuck you, itunes." on her facebook.

Is that the correct way to word it, or should it say "Fuck you itunes."?

Would the comma there imply that itunes was saying "fuck you," or is either way acceptable?

rofl
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
February 09 2011 03:58 GMT
#10
No, because in this case, you = mom. This is an appositive term/phrase.

Take for example:

I hit the man, David.
(David is describing man.)

I hit David, the man who insulted me.
(The whole clause after the comma is describing who David is.)

A hot-tempered tennis player, Robbie charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket.

Robbie, a hot-tempered tennis player, charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket.

etc.

iTunes is clarifying who 'you' is.

synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 09 2011 03:59 GMT
#11
Comma is correct.
:)
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
February 09 2011 04:00 GMT
#12
At least blog it.
o_x | Ow. | 1003 ESPORTS dollars | If you have any questions about bans please PM Kennigit
ecDIESEL
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States132 Posts
February 09 2011 04:01 GMT
#13
On February 09 2011 12:58 Karliath wrote:
No, because in this case, you = mom. This is an appositive term/phrase.

Take for example:

I hit the man, David.
(David is describing man.)

I hit David, the man who insulted me.
(The whole clause after the comma is describing who David is.)

A hot-tempered tennis player, Robbie charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket.

Robbie, a hot-tempered tennis player, charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket.

etc.

iTunes is clarifying who 'you' is.


I see...

Would "fuck you itunes" also be a correct way to phrase it though?
FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
February 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#14
OP, the comma useage you're thinking of is at the end of a sentence of dialogue. For example:

"I am an apple," said the apple.

Here, not only is the apple able to speak, but is also self-aware. This comma useage is different to the one you're asking about, though. The comma used in your example is correct.
ZuRbii
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
February 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#15
It's correct with or without the comma. And saying that iTunes is saying fuck you because it comes after the comma doesn't make any sense.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 04:04:26
February 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#16
On February 09 2011 12:53 MidasMulligan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 12:52 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The comma is correct.

A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.:

I love you, mom.

or

Billy Bob, did you see that UFO?


Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you?


If it was

I love you,
Mom

then I would think it was my mother telling me she loves me. I've never seen someone write something with that as their meaning and not put it in that form. Putting the comma is correct grammar though it's always seemed kinda funny to me because commas are generally used to indicate a pause. When you say something and throw the name at the end I don't ever have a pause and it feels like I should write 'Fuck you Tom.' rather then the proper way.
Moderator
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
February 09 2011 04:04 GMT
#17
"Fuck you iTunes" without the comma is not correct. The comma is necessary to specify who is being talked to. Consider sentences such as "How are you doing Dad?" where without the comma ambiguity would be introduced.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
February 09 2011 04:08 GMT
#18
On February 09 2011 13:04 Lixler wrote:
"Fuck you iTunes" without the comma is not correct. The comma is necessary to specify who is being talked to. Consider sentences such as "How are you doing Dad?" where without the comma ambiguity would be introduced.


To clarify, without the comma:

1. 'You' and 'Dad' are the same person.

or

2. The narrator is asking how 'you' (subject) is doing 'Dad' (object).
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
February 09 2011 04:15 GMT
#19
it's fuck you, itunes.
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
February 09 2011 04:24 GMT
#20
Keep badmouthing iTunes like this and it'll ask me yet again if it should upgrade.
Mondays
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
19:30
Patches' Patch Clash #7
RotterdaM416
Liquipedia
BSL
19:00
RO8 - Day 4
DragOn vs Dewalt
TerrOr vs OyAji
ZZZero.O333
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 416
JuggernautJason109
ProTech86
EmSc Tv 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 30147
ZZZero.O 333
Dewaltoss 85
Zeus 57
NaDa 14
League of Legends
JimRising 434
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu437
Other Games
summit1g7183
tarik_tv5069
FrodaN4726
Grubby3829
gofns2616
Liquid`RaSZi2436
shahzam423
KnowMe341
QueenE83
kaitlyn42
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1012
BasetradeTV76
StarCraft 2
angryscii 29
EmSc Tv 24
EmSc2Tv 24
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 49
• Reevou 10
• musti20045 3
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1886
• masondota21059
Other Games
• imaqtpie918
• WagamamaTV410
• Shiphtur168
• tFFMrPink 16
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 57m
Universe Titan Cup
13h 57m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
14h 57m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 57m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
GSL
2 days
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
Replay Cast
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
TBD vs SHIN
TBD vs Rogue
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W8
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

CSCL: Masked Kings S4
Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.