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HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
February 09 2011 04:34 GMT
#21
On February 09 2011 12:53 MidasMulligan wrote:
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On February 09 2011 12:52 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The comma is correct.

A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.:

I love you, mom.

or

Billy Bob, did you see that UFO?


Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you?


No. Like I said, it should be "I love you, mom."

It's direct address, which commas typically set off. You're not going to find an airtight logical reason for it, but in Standard English using a comma there is 100% correct and omitting the comma is 100% wrong.

Just google "Commas in Direct Address."
If it were not so, I would have told you.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 04:45:58
February 09 2011 04:40 GMT
#22
why do people answer so confidently when it's clear they have no idea? i guess ignorance loves company as well?

either way is correct.

edit: not
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
February 09 2011 04:44 GMT
#23
On February 09 2011 13:40 danl9rm wrote:
why do people answer so confidently when it's clear they have no idea? i guess ignorance loves company as well?

either way is correct.


To the extent that punctuation is fluid, contingent, arbitrary, etc. Either way is correct.

In the conventions of Standard English, the comma is 100% correct. It's pretty textbook, actually.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 09 2011 05:14 GMT
#24
when i first read the OP, i thought it was an indirect attack on itunes.

i think that having the comma is correct. plus, it adds that "pause" that comes naturally when you say that kind of phrase.
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ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
February 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#25
I question your derisory capitulation on the grammar etiquette of Facebook.However what your apparently salient friend is trying or attempting to say is an expression in the form of the colloquial. Have you ever talked to someone in person and they sounded like this:

"I don't know"
"I know right"
"Totally"
"Yeah really"
Add to these set of exemplary examples: "Fuck you iTunes!"

Read more about these general types of statements in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection

They are not attempting to cultivate the grandiose elegance of high prose. They are merely stringing together a set of informal expressions that they heard on MTV or on Twitter (satire) and relating that to a conversation.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:54:21
February 09 2011 05:52 GMT
#26
On February 09 2011 14:26 ffdestiny wrote:
I question your derisory capitulation on the grammar etiquette of Facebook.However what your apparently salient friend is trying or attempting to say is an expression in the form of the colloquial. Have you ever talked to someone in person and they sounded like this:

"I don't know"
"I know right"
"Totally"
"Yeah really"
Add to these set of exemplary examples: "Fuck you iTunes!"

Read more about these general types of statements in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection

They are not attempting to cultivate the grandiose elegance of high prose. They are merely stringing together a set of informal expressions that they heard on MTV or on Twitter (satire) and relating that to a conversation.


"these set of exemplary examples" eh?

btdubz, my friend, "Fuck you, iTunes!" is not an interjection, at least not in any conventional sense. It's standard direct address. So if you're looking for a traditional category for it, it's fairly close to apostrophe. Further, even if it were an interjection, it would still require the comma for direct address. Check the article you cited. Even the sentence-length interjections such as:

"Well, don't worry."
or
"Well! That's great!"

are fully punctuated, functional sentences in their own right.

If it were not so, I would have told you.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 09 2011 05:59 GMT
#27
On February 09 2011 13:44 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 13:40 danl9rm wrote:
why do people answer so confidently when it's clear they have no idea? i guess ignorance loves company as well?

either way is correct.


To the extent that punctuation is fluid, contingent, arbitrary, etc. Either way is correct.

In the conventions of Standard English, the comma is 100% correct. It's pretty textbook, actually.


I gotta comment on how innocent your post was. I think I love you?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
February 09 2011 06:05 GMT
#28
On February 09 2011 14:59 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 13:44 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On February 09 2011 13:40 danl9rm wrote:
why do people answer so confidently when it's clear they have no idea? i guess ignorance loves company as well?

either way is correct.


To the extent that punctuation is fluid, contingent, arbitrary, etc. Either way is correct.

In the conventions of Standard English, the comma is 100% correct. It's pretty textbook, actually.


I gotta comment on how innocent your post was. I think I love you?


Hahahaha, I'm glad that you do.

But I think your edit takes the cake for post-of-the-thread. It was genius, and honestly it made my night.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
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