EPTIs that the correct way to word it, or should it say "Fuck you itunes."?
Would the comma there imply that itunes was saying "fuck you," or is either way acceptable?
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ecDIESEL
United States132 Posts
Is that the correct way to word it, or should it say "Fuck you itunes."? Would the comma there imply that itunes was saying "fuck you," or is either way acceptable? | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
I think at least, the more I think about it the more I doubt myself... | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:50 Munk-E wrote: No, comma is correct I'm pretty sure. It's directly addressing itunes and It's just a different order of "I-Tunes, fuck you" I think at least, the more I think about it the more I doubt myself... Indeed, quite correct  | ||
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ecDIESEL
United States132 Posts
Also, I looked through the wikipedia article on comma rules, and I couldn't find anything that would suggest that putting a comma there was okay. | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.: I love you, mom. or Billy Bob, did you see that UFO? | ||
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ecDIESEL
United States132 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:52 HULKAMANIA wrote: The comma is correct. A comma is one way to indicate direct address in English, e.g.: I love you, mom. or Billy Bob, did you see that UFO? Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you? | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:53 MidasMulligan wrote: Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you? I get what you are saying, but honestly the "I love you, mom" quote would be if you were saying something to your mom, but indirectly. So going back to the original question. The comma is fine. However, if writing an email to itunes directly... I am pretty sure you can just write "Fuck you itunes". | ||
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VabuDeltaKaiser
Germany1107 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:46 MidasMulligan wrote: A friend of mine wrote "Fuck you, itunes." on her facebook. Is that the correct way to word it, or should it say "Fuck you itunes."? Would the comma there imply that itunes was saying "fuck you," or is either way acceptable? rofl | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
Take for example: I hit the man, David. (David is describing man.) I hit David, the man who insulted me. (The whole clause after the comma is describing who David is.) A hot-tempered tennis player, Robbie charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket. Robbie, a hot-tempered tennis player, charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket. etc. iTunes is clarifying who 'you' is. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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ecDIESEL
United States132 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:58 Karliath wrote: No, because in this case, you = mom. This is an appositive term/phrase. Take for example: I hit the man, David. (David is describing man.) I hit David, the man who insulted me. (The whole clause after the comma is describing who David is.) A hot-tempered tennis player, Robbie charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket. Robbie, a hot-tempered tennis player, charged the umpire and tried to crack the poor man's skull with a racket. etc. iTunes is clarifying who 'you' is. I see... Would "fuck you itunes" also be a correct way to phrase it though? | ||
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FreezerJumps
Canada653 Posts
"I am an apple," said the apple. Here, not only is the apple able to speak, but is also self-aware. This comma useage is different to the one you're asking about, though. The comma used in your example is correct. | ||
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ZuRbii
United States58 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:53 MidasMulligan wrote: Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you? If it was I love you, Mom then I would think it was my mother telling me she loves me. I've never seen someone write something with that as their meaning and not put it in that form. Putting the comma is correct grammar though it's always seemed kinda funny to me because commas are generally used to indicate a pause. When you say something and throw the name at the end I don't ever have a pause and it feels like I should write 'Fuck you Tom.' rather then the proper way. | ||
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Lixler
United States265 Posts
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:04 Lixler wrote: "Fuck you iTunes" without the comma is not correct. The comma is necessary to specify who is being talked to. Consider sentences such as "How are you doing Dad?" where without the comma ambiguity would be introduced. To clarify, without the comma: 1. 'You' and 'Dad' are the same person. or 2. The narrator is asking how 'you' (subject) is doing 'Dad' (object). | ||
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Fallen33
United States596 Posts
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jon arbuckle
Canada443 Posts
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
On February 09 2011 12:53 MidasMulligan wrote: Shouldn't it just be "I love you mom"? If you saw "I love you, mom." at the end of a letter, wouldn't it mean your mom was saying I love you? No. Like I said, it should be "I love you, mom." It's direct address, which commas typically set off. You're not going to find an airtight logical reason for it, but in Standard English using a comma there is 100% correct and omitting the comma is 100% wrong. Just google "Commas in Direct Address." | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
either way is correct. edit: not | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:40 danl9rm wrote: why do people answer so confidently when it's clear they have no idea? i guess ignorance loves company as well? either way is correct. To the extent that punctuation is fluid, contingent, arbitrary, etc. Either way is correct. In the conventions of Standard English, the comma is 100% correct. It's pretty textbook, actually. | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
i think that having the comma is correct. plus, it adds that "pause" that comes naturally when you say that kind of phrase. | ||
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ffdestiny
United States773 Posts
"I don't know" "I know right" "Totally" "Yeah really" Add to these set of exemplary examples: "Fuck you iTunes!" Read more about these general types of statements in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection They are not attempting to cultivate the grandiose elegance of high prose. They are merely stringing together a set of informal expressions that they heard on MTV or on Twitter (satire) and relating that to a conversation. | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
On February 09 2011 14:26 ffdestiny wrote: I question your derisory capitulation on the grammar etiquette of Facebook.However what your apparently salient friend is trying or attempting to say is an expression in the form of the colloquial. Have you ever talked to someone in person and they sounded like this: "I don't know" "I know right" "Totally" "Yeah really" Add to these set of exemplary examples: "Fuck you iTunes!" Read more about these general types of statements in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection They are not attempting to cultivate the grandiose elegance of high prose. They are merely stringing together a set of informal expressions that they heard on MTV or on Twitter (satire) and relating that to a conversation. "these set of exemplary examples" eh? btdubz, my friend, "Fuck you, iTunes!" is not an interjection, at least not in any conventional sense. It's standard direct address. So if you're looking for a traditional category for it, it's fairly close to apostrophe. Further, even if it were an interjection, it would still require the comma for direct address. Check the article you cited. Even the sentence-length interjections such as: "Well, don't worry." or "Well! That's great!" are fully punctuated, functional sentences in their own right. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:44 HULKAMANIA wrote: To the extent that punctuation is fluid, contingent, arbitrary, etc. Either way is correct. In the conventions of Standard English, the comma is 100% correct. It's pretty textbook, actually. I gotta comment on how innocent your post was. I think I love you? | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
On February 09 2011 14:59 danl9rm wrote: I gotta comment on how innocent your post was. I think I love you? Hahahaha, I'm glad that you do. But I think your edit takes the cake for post-of-the-thread. It was genius, and honestly it made my night. | ||
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