fuck the zerg complainers - Page 8

On January 28 2011 17:07 blade55555 wrote:


Are you not making enough sentries? Cause pure speedling when a toss has sentries is just lol watch as you try to engage and he ff's and your lings can't even tough his army (don't even count when he traps half of your zerglings).

I dunno why you would move out so early anyway if pure speeding is gonna beat you just stay on 2 base get sentry/colossi/stalker/zealot while expanding zergs not gonna break you lol just not possible if you use forcefields correctly.

On January 26 2011 14:30 travis wrote:
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? in WHAT DIMENSION IS THIS EASY?

On January 28 2011 21:23 SubtleArt wrote:
The main reason Zerg players QQ so much is because its much much much much much (x100) times easier for a Zerg to lose to a player worse than him just cause he didn't scout something or misjudged a push by less that a minute. Doesn't help that Zerg early game scouting is tough.

Like yesteday I lost 3 ZvPs to the same build. Guy opens with 2 void rays. I'm busy defending them by getting spores and 4 queens. Meanwhile he's walled in his natural and has a stalker checking his perimeter so I don't know if he follows up with more void rays, adds another stargate, expands, or pushes. 3 opposite ways for me to react, each one I basically lose if I guess wrong. I had to sac 2 overlords to scout him, but I didn't see anything in his base. Turns out he proxied 4 warpgates and followed up with a huge push (yes, this happened 3 fking times =_=). I knew something was up and prepared for a push as well as the possibiity of more void rays but he just had way too many units considering I spent so much on 2 void rays.

I'm actually really comfortable with late game Zerg and my midgame is really solid vs all races if I can get there on even footing. Problem is its so fucking easy to die as Zerg

On January 28 2011 23:42 Sadistx wrote:


Seems like you lost too much defending VRs. I mean it's pretty obvious you should have been going for a big hydra/roach ball during the mid game to not die. Isn't that how most ZvPs go anyway?
Hydra/roach army, sac lings constantly to scout, add corruptors if you see colo or more void rays.

On January 28 2011 18:47 kerminator wrote:


Watch a replay

I dont get why you will insult zerg players because youre fucking awful at PvZ. There is so much bs in your post that i can say almost certainly that you have no understanding of the current metagame.. saying zerg can scout your base with speedlings... oh my god

On January 28 2011 17:18 kyarisan wrote:


the problem is that you have NO FUCKING IDEA whether he is making like 60 zerglings or not, and you wont be able to know as long as a scouting probe gets sniped by speedlings as it tries to escape the protoss natural. speedlings literally shutdown scouting unless you happen to scout with your whole army which might not even be big enough to deal with that many zerglings. and then you also have to deal with the issue of his zerglings doing a massive run-by as your army leaves, running away to safety before your slow ass sentries can make their way back to the nexus.

are you seriously so blinded by your bias that you didnt even understand what you responded to?

On January 29 2011 04:37 SubtleArt wrote:


Rofl get 1 collosus and those speedlings are literally useless

On January 29 2011 06:34 Lexpar wrote:
Whatever. You spend half your OP complaining about how much zergs complain, the other half complaining about how unfair and difficult PvZ is because you are bad at it.

I'm unimpressed. Honestly this thread hasn't been closed solely because of your position in the TL hierarchy of post count/join date. I think you're an awesome poster most of the time, but this sucks dude. Why go there?

On January 29 2011 07:54 Pandain wrote:
Honestly zergs do complain alot. Actually, every race complains alot. It's sort of sad. Like I was saying to this terran, "Hey, promise to both do macro game?" He does, he ends up losing. But he made several mistakes, such as not having enough turrets, not seiging in time, so forth. And at the end, he doesn't say "gg" or anything, he just says "This is why no one plays macro games vs zerg."

But you just need to look at Jinro, MvP, Mihai(from Catz from Mihai showmatch), and see that macro is possible.

I mean, on a constant basis, over half of my games I get all ined. I get 2 rax scv all-in'd, I get four gated, I get 6 pooled, I get thor rushed, I get 3 gate void ray rushed. And I get pissed off. I get annoyed that because they feel they can't "compete" in a macro game, they all in. Because they cry "imbalance."

Yet I never get mad at the races, or cry imbalance. I get mad at the players for doing that, and mad at myself for not stopping it. Until I'm the best player in the world, and still losing games, I have no ability to say that imbalance played any more of a factor than my mistakes in the game.

I just feel that's a general problem now. Instead of actively trying to figure out "how do I beat this build" we just end up posting on TL saying how OP it is.

Anyway, just my two cents.

On January 26 2011 14:30 travis wrote:


I forge expand scrap station? they baneling bust.

I forge expand to void ray shakuras? nydus in my base i barely fail to stop it lings stream in there goes my main.

I try to hard 4gate? fast roach and lings.

I play 3gate sentry expand on metalopolis? Guy outmacros me off his 2 bases and uses the wide area around the expansion to repeatedly attack me and i can't hold it.

I go 2gate robo? Opponent goes mass speedlings into muta. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? in WHAT DIMENSION IS THIS EASY?

On November 11 2010 01:05 sleepingdog wrote:
I can't stress enough how CRITICAL it is to get the timings right. NEXGenius lost a game vs Leenock on Metalopolis (into ragequit lol) because he started retreating his 2 initial stalkers just a few seconds too late. I think the user "Friend23" or sth like that posted the timings some days ago, if you scout the gas you have about 3:15 ingame until you are up against speedlings.
To extend my thoughts from there: I think you should emphazise more that the scouting of the gas early on is THE most aspect in the whole PvZ early game matchup. Of course you will scout for early expo..duh..that's standard. But many fail to realize how important it is to scout how early zerg goes for gas.

Because if he does NOT go for early gas this means he intends to play economicly greedy and you HAVE to do "something" or get outmacroed like roflwhat.
Opposed to this, if you see early gas you can play it more safe (zealot/sentry-expand) because zerg sacrifices mineral-mining in order to get "something" that isn't a drone. Be it speedlings, be it roach, it won't matter much because it means that you can now play it more safely. A 3 gate sentry-expand should do fine if zerg goes for fast(er) speedlings and also does very fine vs any sort of standard 2 hatch roach play (as seen from Nony vs Idra, where Nony stomped over Idra's roach-push-attempt close positions on lost temple).