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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 23:05:43
January 03 2011 09:09 GMT
#1
Alright, so I need to kill some time before GSL so I figured I’d type out a situation I’ve been dealing with. Before I start, I have to say some disclaimer stuff. I’m not gonna say I didn’t leave stuff out, and that I was unbiased in what I said. This is all in my twisted perspective, may be contradictory in some places, so make of it what you will. However, although I add my thoughts, the stuff that happened, happened almost exactly as it was written. Don’t consider it complaining, I’m not looking for sympathy, I just want to put everything in my head on paper. I figured this might be an interesting read. You can see relationship constructs and social traditions and crap. Sorry this thing is so long. Probably not written very well, but I’m just typing as everything flows from my mind. Enjoy reading about life. This whole thing meant a lot to me. EDIT: and yes I'm an asshole, but you can't say you haven't been an ass at some part of your life.

And yeah, sometimes I get emotional over stupid crap, I try to channel it, and am actively improving. Some things that really get me going are wasting my time, having poor excuses, making fun of my goals, ignoring logic, ignoring me. I’m human, and sticks, stones and words also hurt me.

Intro

-I had a group of 6 people who were good friends from high school and we’d play poker and sports together.
-I hate technology communication, and I especially hate dealing with relationship problems through technology.
-It’s been seven months since the initial incident.

Basically, I lost a large chunk of my guy friends over a single incident. It all happened in June, when I lost a lot more than a poker hand. KK preflop, some big betting between me and another guy. The flop comes, nothing higher than a ten, rainbow, I bet into the guy, he goes all in, I call, and to no surprise, AA comes up and I lose 5 dollars (tragic, haha). I’m cool with that, poker is poker, but when got me going was when they wouldn’t let me buy back in. It’s been an issue in the past, but every time people have been allowed to buy back in. This time however, everyone was strongly against it, and I thought it was unfair, mainly because of everyone’s terrible excuses. People were saying it was too late, even though it only 9:30. One guy said he had to get up at 8 to go fishing, so he couldn’t play late, which I find silly. You can’t stay up an extra hour for your friend? IDK, but other people were just flat out saying no just for the sake of it. At this point I was getting pissed off. I’ve recently had a bit short of a fuse because of personal matters at home involving my parents. So anyways, we’re arguing for an hour and I say some hurtful things and storm out for an hour. I walked back, and when we all drove home, I had started to calm down a bit, and said let’s make some rules so this shit doesn’t happen again, but everyone was just saying I was totally out of line and I needed to apologize. At that point I couldn’t apologize, because I thought we were both in the wrong. I still think that, but I know I was really overreacting.

So this is where shit gets a bit (more, I guess) juvenile. A few days later, I decide I can’t leave this situation alone forever, so I try to call people up to resolve this thing. But no one will respond to any of my texts. People are too fucking pussy, no one’s man enough to deal with problems. So I call people over to my house to discuss the whole thing, some people say okay, but in the end, no one comes. So now I’m stuck with a bunch of people trying to hide under a rock and pretend I never existed. I’ll go through each friend and we’ll find out what happened. (names have been changed).

Sam

So I was never really good friends with Sam, but we got along well enough. After the incident, he was one of the few people who would respond to my texts, and since I could get no one to meet me in person, I had to do a stupid retarded msn conversation. Sam took the opportunity to tell me what a terrible person I was. How I was a greedy bastard who got drives from people and who ate people’s food at their house, and didn’t let him sit in the front of the car. I addressed these complaints. I’ll take what people give me (my friend’s mom taught me it’s rude not to) and a lot of the time I still feel bad and say I’d rather not take anything. I’m gonna sit in the front seat a) because I call shotgun and b) because I’m a giant (EDIT: to clarify, 6 foot 5 and I often have to look down so my head isn't sticking 2 inches into the ceiling). and he’s a fucking troll. I feel bad because I don’t have a car (parents won’t even let me use theirs to practice for my graduated license, not that I have money anyways), so I often offered to pay for gas, and no one would accept my money. So he continued about how I’m such a bad person and don’t deserve any friends. I still couldn’t apologize at this point, cause he was making me so mad. I still appreciated the fact that he was actually talking to me, though. SITUATION UNRESOLVED.

In late August I get an out of the blue text, hey, wanna play bball. I go, and everyone’s there, people won’t look me in the eye, I try to bring up the issue, no one answers, we play. At the end, after being isolated for a whole summer, not a single text or a call, I say feel free to call me again when you don’t feel like ostracizing me.

What I don’t like about this guy is how he talks down to me. What happened to he without sin casting the stones? He goes and tells me how I’m terrible, and he is no one to talk. At one poker game, he lost a hand and fucking ripped the deck of cards. I’ve never seen anyone do that ever. That was fucked. And no one seems to care about that.

As a side note, he pissed me off when we went to see avatar, and once we were there, the movie started at 10:50, and he said we should just see the movie in 2d cause he had to work at the drugstore at 8:30 in the morning. WTF!!!
-you don’t see avatar in 2d. To this day I have not seen avatar, unfortunately.
-you can stay up late to see the damn movie
I get really pissed off when people won’t give up their fucking beauty sleep. I’ve gone days without sleeping, during the school year I can often only manage 5 or fewer hours of sleep, and people still complain when they don’t get a full 10 hours every fucking day. Anyways, I got super angry cause he wasted everyone’s time, and stormed out so I wouldn’t punch him in the face.

Alex

Alex and I have had an odd relationship over the last decade. He’s booksmart, but that’s where the smart ends. A few examples.
-elementary school: sitting in his room, he says brb, comes back, says turn around. I turn around, he goes AAARRRGHH, and stabs a plastic tiger with an army knife. The knife slides, he slits his finger open. Dad tells me to leave.
-high school, acts like a dick to teachers and peers, thinks he’s fucking boss. Always talking back and interrupting class, but the teachers take it because he does well in school.
-drinks during class, has liquor in a sprite bottle, thinks he’s cool, everyone knows otherwise.
-I’m leaving chemistry class, he decides it would be funny to slam dunk my head, proceeds to smash my face into a wall. I start yelling and swearing at him and teachers just shake their heads.
-drinks so much at a party, an ambulance has to come and pump his stomach.

Despite how he’s done stupid shit to me and done everything in his power to piss me off, we’ve remained some sort of friends. Now because of how he’s treated me, there have been periods where I’ve talked shit about him, and this is something about me that isn’t the best quality. If you do something to piss the fuck out of me, be it slam dunking my face or degrading me or making jokes out of the fact that I’m taking nursing, yeah, I’m gonna talk some shit about you, a lot of the time to your face, sometimes behind your back. I’m an open book, for example, I had a crush on a girl this one time, and I told EVERYONE at work about it, and when I got rejected (TT, life happens), she was embarrassed because everyone knew what she did, haha (oops : P). So anyways, he found out that I was talking shit, I’m sure he’s done the same to me at some point, and now he’s trying to act all mature, telling me how I should be acting. I know how I should be acting, I try my best but I’m not perfect. Sometimes I will do things I regret, and I do my best to avoid doing those things. I was so surprised at him lecturing me, he of all people had no right to tell me how I should act. I should tell him how to walk straight and how to not swing a golf club like a baseball bat (there I go...).

He was pissed at what I did at the poker game, but I think he realizes that he’s done enough bad shit to me to not get too offended. Still acting weird though. SOMEWHAT RESOLVED.

Marc

He was probably my best friend out of everyone and did the worst thing out of everyone, which hurt me the most. He ignored me. After the poker game, I texted him and he texted me saying he’d call on Saturday. He never called, and I texted him again, basically saying cmon, you can’t even respond to a damn text. He responds telling me to fuck off, what do I want from him, and I tell him I wanna fix the issue. I don’t get a response back. I haven’t heard from him in the last 7 months, and I’ve texted him once every couple months to see if I can get something out of him. This is someone who I’d been really good friends with all throughout high school, and through my first year of university. I’d shared with him some of my most private thoughts. I thought he could keep a secret, but it turns out he told Alex about a time I’d cried because of how shit everything was going, even when he promised he wouldn’t. Maybe we weren’t as good friends as I thought. Now I like to think of him as a good time friend, once shit gets a bit hard, we’re not friends anymore.

Now I think one of the worst things you can do to a person is ignore them. Deny their existence, your relationship with them, any impact they’ve had on your life. That’s what’s been happening to me. Apparently our friendship meant so little that the guy is able to move on with his life without talking to me at all, without trying to resolve any feelings he has. And that stings. Maybe he doesn’t want to have to deal with it, still hurts. It pisses me off. I’d rather have him go straight to my face, fuck you Eli, I hate you and never want to talk to you again, than have to deal with being ignored. UNRESOLVED

Mitchel

We’ve been pretty good friends, we have a good sports rivalry. We’d play ping pong till 3 am when his dad would tell me to GTFO. We’d play tennis, basketball, hockey, all that shit, good competitors. He took a while to warm up to me after the poker game (started talking after about 3 months), and took a personal offense to what I did. When I refused to quit after losing my money, he said I was disrespecting him. I couldn’t bend a little bit when he does lots of stuff like give me drives and food and stuff. I agreed, and said I always want to pay him back, but he says he can’t take my money. I think that’s stupid, people shouldn’t pussyfoot (thanks Eminem) around all this etiquette bullshit. If you offer me something I’ll take it, and if I wanna square the deal, you should take my offering. None of this you’re my guest crap. Anyways, I managed to apologize to him, through msn, sigh, and we’re on good speaking terms now. He still said I wouldn’t be invited to another poker game for a while, but he’d be cool to do stuff. It was hard to get him because he was trying his best to avoid the whole thing. MOSTLY RESOLVED (i think)

Nate

Another pussyfooter. Fine talking to me as long as nothing is brought up. Once that happens, he disappears. Not much to say about him. SITUATION AVOIDED

Carl

We’re good, he understands my situation and we’re still good friends. He was open to discussion and we resolved the situation like adults. SITUATION RESOLVED

Conclusion

Because this is such a mess, I am not invited to any social gatherings because some people still have problems with me. I definitely shouldn’t have gotten so angry, but shit happens and people should have been more open to resolutions. I wish this didn’t have to happen the way it did, but I don’t think there’s any point in trying to make things as they were. I’ve got to move on, find some new friends. This has been extra hard on me because I’m in a nursing program, and there are only like 5 guys in my program, and we aren’t really that close. Being around chicks all day would be nicer if there were more hotties, and even then there’s just as much social bullshit as what happened with my friends.

Anyways, what I’m getting at is that not having guy friends can be very hard, so appreciate your friends! I’ve had too many lonely nights over the last half year. The whole thing was quite a shock to me. But I’ve grown to make some good friends at work which has been really good. Fill some of that void.
So there it is. My jumbled up mess of thoughts that have been bouncing around in my head for too long. Fuck cell phones, fuck msn, fuck pussyfooting. I hope you don’t feel like you wasted your time after reading this.

Cheers

EDIT: Mitchel and Sam said there was an accumulation of little things that "pissed some people off". Unfortunately, they kept it all bottled inside, and I never really got to know the specifics. Even when I asked Mitchel, he couldn't tell me any good situations. IDK. But if you take something from this, be open in your relationships. Hiding your feelings leads to resentment and apparently it builds up into shit. Solve your problems while they're small. Choose to have a fight rather than let it go, makes life more interesting and it makes working out problems a lot easier.


How's the weather down there?
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
January 03 2011 09:50 GMT
#2
Hmm...

First of all, good read

Second, I can't help but feel you left something out. It seems weird how they would start to exclude you from the group because you got mad over some random thing. Either they never liked you, which seems unlikely, or you might have done something else for it to come to this.

You mentioned you can sometimes get emotional about stupid things, perhaps this has happened often enough among your friends to make them not want to deal with it anymore?

Either way, I hope stuff works out for you!
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
January 03 2011 09:56 GMT
#3
You seem to have some anger issues man, storming out of the cinema when your friend wants to catch an earlier film? Dick move.

You can't call people out on their white lies, understand the meaning behind it and just roll with it. So, people were tired and wanted the poker game to end? Just say OK and go raid the fridge.

Saying that you should always sit up front in the car because you are large is not acceptable. Front seat is rotated between friends, that's how you do it. NO excuses to not do this (unless you have bad joints).

eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
January 03 2011 10:07 GMT
#4
On January 03 2011 18:56 Stenstyren wrote:
You seem to have some anger issues man, storming out of the cinema when your friend wants to catch an earlier film? Dick move.

You can't call people out on their white lies, understand the meaning behind it and just roll with it. So, people were tired and wanted the poker game to end? Just say OK and go raid the fridge.

Saying that you should always sit up front in the car because you are large is not acceptable. Front seat is rotated between friends, that's how you do it. NO excuses to not do this (unless you have bad joints).



I wouldn't have cared, but it was avatar for god's sake, the whole point was that it was in 3d. waste of money otherwise. And we wasn't willing to lose a bit of sleep during Christmas break, to go to a shitty job for the morning on a weekend? and to be fair, I'd often let Sam sit in the front after he complained.
How's the weather down there?
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:54:14
January 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#5
From the post, my impression is that your friends think you're an asshole (not unreasonably) and eventually decided you weren't worth their time.

edit: but it sounds like you learned a valuable lesson, so that's good at least.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
January 03 2011 11:07 GMT
#6
I think you need to just relax and take life as it goes. You can't control people and people aren't always gonna act how you want them to act. You and your friends, I assume, are still young. When people are still young, our emotions get the best of us and strike real deep. Most of your dilemmas with your friends are over pussy shit. You can't be bringing out stories and events from your childhood like in elementary school to judge someone. You gotta see that person right now and how they've matured. From one of my teachers, I learned this: A true friend isn't afraid to hurt your feelings to tell you when you were wrong or doing the wrong thing. A true friend isn't scared to hurt your feelings just to keep you as his friend. Some of my really good friends are people I've recently met. I've had friends who I've known for more than 10 years and yet I don't really 'know' them. If your friends don't wanna fix a relationship with you, they probably don't want to deal with you. They probably don't care about you as much as you care about them.
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
January 03 2011 13:33 GMT
#7
As for offering money to pay them back when they invite you to food or give you drives, I personally think this is quite rude and I wouldn't accept this offer neither. With my friends it's like, I am broke and when we go somewhere they invite me to McDonalds or stuff, and I have a bad conscience, so as soon as I got some money and hang around with them I invite them back to something else. Or I offer to drive and they offer to pay for tickets in return etc - it is like giving and taking and not to nit-pick about every shit; paying them just feels wrong.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
January 03 2011 13:42 GMT
#8
Somehow i'm not so sure anymore that it's a bad thing that i have no friends

I might not be the best choice to give any suggestions, but i'd just give it time and either they come back to you or they aren't worth your time anyways. If you apologized to them (your wall of text is not clear on that) it's their turn to do the next step, if they don't do it, find other friends. If you meet them again, just ignore that topic, it's not important, noone cares about that anymore except you. To me it sounded like they made an peace offering, but you still insisted on talking about something they don't care about.

On a side-note: You seem to be quite egoistic, demanding that others stay up longer than they want, refusing to watch a movie in 2d, ... there are some important things, work and being rested for work are two of those things, but watching a movie in 3d is not on the list. I don't know how much real work experience you have, but working while being tired is extremely frustrating.
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
January 03 2011 13:48 GMT
#9
life is so tough being a douchebag.

Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
January 03 2011 15:41 GMT
#10
Seems to me like both you and your friends lack maturity. Anger issues, making big deals out of nothing, avoiding resolution of conflicts (not necessarily you on that one)...you're going to find it hard to resolve a dispute amicably when neither party is particularly mature...
BuuGhost
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands340 Posts
January 03 2011 15:57 GMT
#11
If they are avoiding you they never were true friends, Just fakefriends to spend time with.

I only have 2 real friends. And even when im on fire and falling off a cliff they'd jump after me just to safe me. (Unless its a suicidal dive into oblivion. They're friends, Not dumbasses ^^)
I'd do the same for them.


Protip: Get some better friends you can trust.
"Kinda like this thing but there’s something you should know, I just came to say hello."
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
January 04 2011 19:59 GMT
#12
BuuGhost, really? I see it completely the other way around. He needs to become the one friends can trust and be around. Isn't it weird that 6 of them coincidentally had enough of him to sever ties?

What your going through is the same thing my roommate is going through, you just had a major blow up incident that made a more rapid onset than he did. You both even get mad at the same things, and are oblivious to some of the incidents:

-Your not the manly one, and your friends aren't the pussies. It's the opposite. You busted? Tough, now sit there and let the others play. Talk, make unoffensive comments, and just try to enjoy the rest of it. That's really the most mature and manliest thing to do.

-No one care's if your a giant gunning for shotgun among oompa loompa's. You said you don't have a car? Great, now get your ass in the backseat for every ride. Let those that take on the burden of driving you around for free have that luxury. You'll understand this when you own one.

-Avatar in 2D? Time to throw a shit fit. Either go and enjoy it without letting it get to you that your simply 1D behind a slightly better experience. You wouldn't see a movie alone in a theater, so try to realize it's really your friends with you that make it all the better.

-Your friend buys you lunch? Sounds like a good guy, but don't make a scene by paying him back 7$ cash the minute you can. That's impolite. Do you only give money as presents for birthdays and christmas? As much as you may hate to take charity, just offer to buy next time you two are feeling hungry. Of course he declined. It's the act of buying him lunch that makes it more appealing. Your the one who made a big deal out of it. Now it's just awkward.


I think you simply lack maturity and a proper mentality. You seem to take, take, take. You really should be focused on giving back a bit more than your taking. Sure, you take small hits morally and monetary, but who cares? Your friends and you are there for one another, that's friendship. Let's face it, you don't have a girlfriend, you just don't. Learn to master what friendships are, and a girlfriend is the next step up. Personally, I try to just look for ways to make the people around me feel as happy as possible. Offer and give, and you will be rewarded. I don't know if karma exists, but I like to think in some way it does, so just keep that in mind for a mindset.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
January 04 2011 21:01 GMT
#13
On January 03 2011 18:09 eLiE wrote:
EDIT: Mitchel and Sam said there was an accumulation of little things that "pissed some people off". Unfortunately, they kept it all bottled inside, and I never really got to know the specifics. Even when I asked Mitchel, he couldn't tell me any good situations. IDK. But if you take something from this, be open in your relationships. Hiding your feelings leads to resentment and apparently it builds up into shit. Solve your problems while they're small. Choose to have a fight rather than let it go, makes life more interesting and it makes working out problems a lot easier.


I knew someone who would act like an asshole and when I called them out they would try to twist and deny it. Then they would ask why they weren't liked and when I tried to explain it was the same story all over again. At some point you get tired of it and start to ignore them. I kinda assume that's what happened between your friends and you.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
kelstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada35 Posts
January 04 2011 22:29 GMT
#14
Horrde has some good comments, I will just add that I think the fact you are telling others to appreciate their friends is a good step, as obviously this is a realization you have made. Do what ever reflecting you can and come out of this ordeal a better person. I have been in a very similar situation and I know how shitty it really does feel, and for me there was no quick fix... it was hard. Don't be afraid to swallow your pride and be as honest as you can.

I will leave with this bad ass motherfuckin quote haha
"Everything will be ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end"
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