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Introducing OneBaseKing aka FourGateEmperor

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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 08:49:28
January 01 2011 08:45 GMT
#1
Note: includes spoilers of the recent Gisado all-star season3 vs season2 team.


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Lately another King has emerged in the world of SC2...

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Introducing the OneBaseKing:

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Like MarineKing who revolutionized Terran's use of Marines, this player revolutionized the extensive use of 1-base allins such as 4 warpgates and 3 gate VRs.

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Lacking in lategame prowess, this player has figured out a good system of 1-base attacks to quickly pulverize his opponents so that the games end quickly in his favor.

Gisado season 3 vs season 2 game 16
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Here we get an inside look at the player's personal room:

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The bread and butter

== Facts from Gisado day 3 ==
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A Protoss revolutionary!


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Marines > everything
MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
January 01 2011 08:56 GMT
#2
Lol, hey there are some replays of OgsMC winning with a macro game right?
SpaceFighting
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand690 Posts
January 01 2011 08:59 GMT
#3
i lol'd
kuz pro
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
January 01 2011 08:59 GMT
#4
On January 01 2011 17:56 MuffinFTW wrote:
Lol, hey there are some replays of OgsMC winning with a macro game right?


Not much, tbh.
ggaemo fan
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4558 Posts
January 01 2011 09:04 GMT
#5
Very perceptive.
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Sarcasm


MC finds the quickest way to deal the most damage based on what he sees/map. The question arises is that, why do what everyone else is doing while there is a quicker and more effective way of taking advantage of your opponents disadvantages? i.e 4 Gate vs 1/1/1 or 3 Gate Void vs Wall off + 1/1/1. To me the quickest and surest way to secure a win or a considerable lead should be my go to strategy in almost all situations in the game. Why go to a macro fest when it isn't needed? There isn't a right or wrong way to play. He plays smart, and obviously disregards the warped fantasy land a lot of SC players live in of how every game must be played with 3+ bases or the game sucks. Maybe a little less time spent on what the game should be instead of how it is might actually see a lot of people mature and we can stop the hundreds of threads complaining.. about everything.

The game will get better, however the view of "1 base players are bad" is utter nonsense and needs to change. MC is as close as we get to living proof of this. If you think his success is mainly attributed to 1 Basing then perhaps Starcraft wasn't the game for you.
hi. big fan.
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
January 01 2011 09:27 GMT
#6
Playing a macro game PvT is very risky because if you misstep the game can easily be over despite being ahead in econ. MC is a very meticulous player so his allins are much stronger than other peoples due to refinement. Kinda reminds me of NonY in TSL2
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
January 01 2011 09:28 GMT
#7
I think BitByBit is much more deserving of the OneBaseKing title.
|| o.o
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 01 2011 10:40 GMT
#8
I thought this was going to be about AllInKing, who I believe plays on the NA server. Haha. Gotta love MC, though-- Most of the time his attacks aren't all-in, though. He just pressures until the moment he realises he's got the game won, then ends it. He doesn't just force the issue and then gg if it doesn't work. If you notice, MC focuses on aggressive openers, then can transition if it doesn't win him the game right off the bat.
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ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
January 01 2011 15:28 GMT
#9
You exaggerate to much. 4 gate is not an allin, just puts you on the backfoot if it fails.
MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
January 01 2011 19:52 GMT
#10
On January 02 2011 00:28 ace246 wrote:
You exaggerate to much. 4 gate is not an allin, just puts you on the backfoot if it fails.


This is the 1 base king, not all-in king silly.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
January 01 2011 23:41 GMT
#11
The sad thing is that it's fucking true. MC's micro is sick. His macro is not. He fails when he tries to play macro games because he inevitably falls behind.
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 04 2011 06:01 GMT
#12
Actually bitbybitprime can't be the OneBaseKing because he fails. You have to be good at it to be the king, which MC is. MC's 1 base is even stronger than Foxer's 1 base, which is pretty good already. That is why he's the king.
Marines > everything
[Eternal]Phoenix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States333 Posts
January 04 2011 06:09 GMT
#13
PvT 1 base play is actually pretty broken, from both sides. It's really a dumb matchup that is very allin centric. Add on top of that korean love for allins and MC's ridiculous FF use.

I wish warpgates didn't exist, then this game might be fun.
'environmental legislation is like cutting scvs to stop an imaginary allin that is never going to come, while your opponent ecos and expands continually'
Fizbin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada202 Posts
January 04 2011 16:45 GMT
#14
i base is the way! go MC! lol
whats funny is even on big maps 4 gate is viable due to warp in mechanics!
just the tip
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
January 04 2011 22:31 GMT
#15
Funny stuff :D
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
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