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Recently I just bought the game Starcraft: BroodWar, and I asked TL what I should do, regarding learning to play, and how I as a new player, could experience what many have called, the best rts to date. It was suggested to me, on my first post, that I should make a blog on TL regarding my experience with the game, which I thought was an excellent idea. I hope that this blog will be a sort of nostalgic journey for some of you, and perhaps entice a few people from the sc2 community to get back to the basics, like I am, and enjoy some BW action. My goal is to play at least 50 iCCup games by the end of 9 days, at the [9]th day I will do a pretty extensive writeup and hopefully a full gamelog of all my online games.
Before the Blog:
Previous experience with gaming
Before diving into the blog, I want to take some time to introduce who I am, not so much as a person, but as a gamer.
My first real game, which I clocked over 100 hours into was actually star-wars battlefront 2, which I maintain (despite its bad ratings) is one of the better games I've ever played. After that, I got hardcore into team fortress 2, which despite its goofy graphics, actually marked my first experience with competitive gaming (700 hours). It was actually during that time that I was actually introduced by a teammate to Warcraft 3, my first rts...it hooked me. After my stint with TF2 +War 3 I got Starcraft 2 the day it came out, hoping for a solid game. SC2 is actually what got me into TL and ultimately, to the game I'm going to be playing exclusively, for the next 9 days, Starcraft: BroodWar.
Day[1] - Today, I bought the Starcraft Anthology from the Blizzard Online store, and while the game was downloading, Read a bunch about BW strategy, and a guide on getting better at the game in general (by Ver) and thought alot about what I want from the game, and it was then that I actually decided to write this blog.
When I first opened the game I was a little bit apprehensive about playing against real people, so I started to play 1v1 games vs a random computer. The first game I got Protoss off of a random roll, and I decided that I liked it, so its now my main race, unless something compels me to switch to Terran, (which I tried along with Zerg, but neither feel as comfortable) I must've played at least 7 20-30 minute games, and the thing I found surprisingly hard was not the different hotkeys, which I learned in about five minutes but rather the way the rally system works, I'm still trying to find a good system of making sure all my workers are mining properly and my army is going the right places.
Another thing I found quite challenging, especially vs toss, where I would 2 gate fe then throw down forge, and cyber to get essentially only zealots and dragoons, is that I cant just double click to grab all the units of teh same type, I'd have to make control groups (something which for some reason I'm physically unable to do, emailed blizzard, hope to hear back) and hit 1a*click* 2a*click* 3a*click* etc. to get my 36 or however many dragoons or zealots to move out. I ended up losing alot more units than I should've because of that, and hope that I can figure out an easy way to solve my problem soon.
Hopefully I can also balls up tomorrow, or tonight and play some online games against the people who have been playing for 10 years...*gulp*
any tips or advice welcome and thanks for reading
tl;dr bought BW, played it, will play again.
gl hf Leo fighting d8)
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You should be ok in bnet if you've played wc3 and sc2... not 50% maybe but you'll do ok if you just keep making workers and macro up a good army... but I would actually recommend to skip bnet and play iccup from the start.
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lol having to use more than 1 control group is not a "problem"... it's brood war :d
gl.
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Nice, you should try some bgh games on bnet just for practice
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Start off on some comp stomp games and then graduate to fastest map and then BGH. Gotta take it slow.
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Oh, and you can select all the units of the same kind by holding control while selecting. Or just dl ouble click (left click) to select all the same units.
You can also add/remove units from group by holding shift.
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There is a cap of 12 units per selection, so you do need multiple control groups. You're Protoss though, so you shouldn't need more than 1-5 for your army. It gets ridiculous with Zerg...
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Cant wait til the 9th day!
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You have to get used to hiting 1a2a3a4a etc to attack with large numbers in BW. Correct hand positioning helps. There are several threads on hand position for speed for this, but one often recommended way is:
1a2a3a4a
Ring-Ring Middle-Ring Index-Ring Index-Ring
practice it.
As far as rallying probes, rally them towards your minerals just a little bit, and catch them as they come out, then right click to mine.
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Congratulations on buying this awesome game! Good luck playing!
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Good luck and Have fun!
Brood was is a game where you will learn new stuff even after 10 years!
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Singapore66360 Posts
welcome to the 1a2a3a club :p
fun read, hoping to see more!
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a good tip for the rallypoints problem is to use the location hotkeys, you can bind locations to f2,f3 and f4 the same way you bind control-groups. when I was semi-active in BW and offraced P I had f2 for my cluster of gateways and f3 for my rallypoint, worked good for me.
and yeah, dont complain about the control-groups as protoss, try playing lategame zerg. hoooly fuck >.<
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Remember to 1a2a3a several times each time you want your troops to attack-move some where. I can't stress this enough, if you only 1a2a3a one time, you may miss one of your control group.
Protoss is the best race for start playing BW. GL and HF with the BEST GAME ever made. :D
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On December 22 2010 16:22 Loophole wrote:
You have to get used to hiting 1a2a3a4a etc to attack with large numbers in BW. Correct hand positioning helps. There are several threads on hand position for speed for this, but one often recommended way is:
1a2a3a4a
Ring-Ring Middle-Ring Index-Ring Index-Ring
practice it.
As far as rallying probes, rally them towards your minerals just a little bit, and catch them as they come out, then right click to mine.
Woah... so that how you do 1a2a3a
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Day[2]
Ok, so far, I've had a pretty great day with regards to SC:BW. I decided to ditch the NA server and go to the asian gateway, hoping to play some better people. (I'm not sure if its just a diff port, or a diff server but anyways) I played pretty late into last night, after my first post, and I couldn't physically get to sleep afterwards, the games were so intense, and ALIVE that I had adrenaline coursing through my system for the next 30 minutes. I was also just sitting there, just thinking about how awesome tomorrow (today) was going to be, because all I would be doing is playing starcraft...its honestly fun to just sit, and THINK about starcraft strats, ideas, and whatnot. Today I grabbed my iCCup login, but sadly, it looks like I'm going to need to wait until I get back home to get on teh server, because the anti-hack, and the server reg are both .exe files which macs don't use...sucks...anyway, back on topic I ended up playing alot on the Asian server. I actually asked people where there were from, just to get an idea of the non korean vs. korean demographic in the server...of the 17 games I've played so far 3 have been chinese, 2 were Vietnamese, a few (didn't count) were other NAs and EUs looking for more competition and the rest were Koreans, surprisingly, every one of them spoke excellent english, except for one of the Vietnamese players who I spoke to in french. My record was not as good today as it was yesterday (when I won 3/4s of my games, though admittedly I did play 2 BGHs and 1 fastest before i realized it wasn't for me.)
3-13-1 one of the disconnected, but I don't think it was a plug pull, b/c the game was only 13 minutes in. Towards the end of the session I started to feel more comfortable with my units, and I started doing *more* fancy stuff, like pylon-dragoon wall-ins, and and zealot wall offs. I didn't think to save the replays today, but if people want to see what a newbie looks like again I'd gladly post them (if someone tells me where, and how) Just comment to tell me if that would interest you or not (I may just do it anyways if I figure out how =P)
gl hf LeoA fighting (just figured out what that actually means =D good times.
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Ok so you cant select an ENTIRE army to one group or you cant select anything ?
1. you cant select more than 12 units
2. If you cant make a control group you have to change your keyboard language or hit caps lock i had this problem when i tried BW.
With you luck i wasnt good enough to play that game so i went back to SC2 : (((((( maybe i will try it tomorrow : )
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yay leoa, welcome to bw! 
sounds like you're having some awesome time. i havnt touched bw since sc2, you're making me want to play it you should have some fun with bw exclusive strategies like reaver rush
glhf sir.
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Post your b.net ID and maybe i'll come help you learn the basics.
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LeoA you are awesome ! Keep the good work and remember having fun its the most important.
I wanna play some SC after reading this now . Going on Iccup right away !
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Canada8033 Posts
On December 23 2010 06:48 LeoA wrote:
Towards the end of the session I started to feel more comfortable with my units, and I started doing *more* fancy stuff, like pylon-dragoon wall-ins, and and zealot wall offs. I didn't think to save the replays today, but if people want to see what a newbie looks like again I'd gladly post them (if someone tells me where, and how) Just comment to tell me if that would interest you or not (I may just do it anyways if I figure out how =P)
To find your reps:
Navigate to your starcraft install folder. Open the "maps" folder, then the "replays" folder. This is where all your reps will be.
Upload them here:
http://repdepot.net/
If you're using the Iccup launcher or Chaoslauncher, turn on the autoreplay plugin if you want to automatically save all your replays. There's really no reason not to since they're usually ~100kb max and hard drive space is cheap these days.
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edit: I posted to the wrong forum post
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Valhalla18444 Posts
this is an incredibly deep, complex, and difficult game. don't give up though, winning at high levels of competition in this game is the best feeling
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when you hit the 9th day of this you are going to be confusing people
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I wanted to play broodwar the other day but when I started it up on my new computer the graphics look severely distorted. Anyone know how to solve this? Btw leoa good luck on iccup! It's a brutal environment where only the mentally tough survive
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On December 24 2010 00:34 Dante08 wrote:
I wanted to play broodwar the other day but when I started it up on my new computer the graphics look severely distorted. Anyone know how to solve this? Btw leoa good luck on iccup! It's a brutal environment where only the mentally tough survive
I'm assuming you are using Windows 7 and the problem is strange colours?
Download this:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nuvzrz0s1t586ra
Unzip it etc and then add (just double click it) to appropriate values to your registry. x64 for 64 bit Windows and x86 for 32 bit.
If this doesn't help you might have to use DDHack but some people have issues connecting to battle.net when using it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111306¤tpage=6#115
If you get lag try forcing v-sync off and on, using it with and without altwinpos and with and without forcing 640x480. It takes a bit of experimentation but with patience you can get it working.
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On December 23 2010 02:26 Julmust wrote:
a good tip for the rallypoints problem is to use the location hotkeys, you can bind locations to f2,f3 and f4 the same way you bind control-groups. when I was semi-active in BW and offraced P I had f2 for my cluster of gateways and f3 for my rallypoint, worked good for me.
tipp: don't do this. use f-keys over your nexuses so that you can quickly probetranfer during harrass.
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