• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:36
CEST 19:36
KST 02:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview1[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris34Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview BoxeR's Wings Episode 2 - Fan Translation Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update A Eulogy for the Six Pool #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
Post ASL20 Ro24 discussion. BW General Discussion No Rain in ASL20? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [ASL20] Ro24 Group E [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined! [ASL20] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Mechabellum Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2629 users

Gold League and Other Stuff

Blogs > TheGiz
Post a Reply
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
December 07 2010 20:35 GMT
#1
In my last entry I mentioned that I was being pitted against Gold players a lot. Well, guess what?

I've been promoted to Gold League!

Even better than that was the game that got me there was a fast Mothership in a PvP, lol.
Game Summary for those who are interested:
+ Show Spoiler +
Lost Temple: He's at 9 o'clock and I'm at 6 o'clock. I opened with my usual 3-Gate but instead built a Stargate because I felt like getting a Mothership for kicks. After he pulled an Immortal drop, which was a minor inconvenience, I expanded and built a Fleet Beacon. My army of Gateway/Void Ray made him decide to go Blink Stalkers, which were useless once my Mothership popped at around 15 minutes. 2 minutes later I won, and I wouldn't want to get Gold any other way.


Potential Mothership Build:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm thinking of changing my build to fast Mothership in PvP now. It's largest weakness is a severe lack of detection until I get a Forge up, since blowing gas on a Robo when I need Void Rays to support my army is no in my best interest. Either way on 2 bases I should be able to get a Mothership at about 15 minutes. If I wait until I get an Observer AFTER that (to snipe theirs) then it'll be even more solid.

The key with this build is to stay Gateway heavy. I only had about 3 Void Rays at the end when I won. They're pretty much only there to force more Stalkers instead of Colossus.


How is a 4-Gate Cheating?:
In a game last night I was playing a PvP on Steppes. I started 9 Gate Core as usual and scouted on 12. He didn't wall so my scout got into his base undetected. I did what any good Protoss does to punish someone who doesn't see his scout - I built a pylon in his base.

Seeing as how I had this Pylon I then went ahead with a 4 Gate. I shooed out his scout and walled myself in (he didn't attack anyway) while I macro'd a little as WG finished.

Meanwhile in his base, my opponent built a pylon sort-of near mine. Fearing that he'd seen my pylon, I moved my probe across the middle of his base, where there were no buildings (he had a Sim-city close to his Nexus), and build a back-up pylon on the other side. He still hadn't seen it.

Once WG researched I attacked, and after a minor struggle I had him beat. He then said to me, "I guess Blizzard has allowed cheating again."

Ignoring the fact that there is no cheating in multiplayer, and Blizzard disabled cheating for the Single Player campaign, why is this guy so upset that I beat him with a 4 WG push? I wouldn't have done it if he'd seen my Probe, and it's his fault for not scouting his own base properly. Plus, my macro was pretty decent, so I don't see the problem here. I don't even consider the 4 WG push to be a cheese play anyways, just a dumb all-in that will hurt you if it doesn't work.

For next time:
+ Show Spoiler +
I've been thinking of doing a blog about myself for next time. Might be a little lengthy, or not, depending on how much detail I want to get into. Should be fairly interesting though.


Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
December 07 2010 22:08 GMT
#2
Don't worry about the 4wg stuff. He's probably just raging.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
December 07 2010 22:43 GMT
#3
4 gate is an easy win if you catch them completely off guard. Sucks to lose to, but you do what it takes to win.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#100
Iba vs GgMaChine
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Reynor vs Classic
Serral vs Clem
IndyStarCraft 233
Liquipedia
Cosmonarchy
16:00
Showmatch #3
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1300
TKL 272
IndyStarCraft 233
JuggernautJason26
EmSc Tv 14
MindelVK 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31833
Calm 3479
Rain 1423
Horang2 951
BeSt 322
EffOrt 202
Hyun 190
firebathero 175
Barracks 106
Soulkey 89
[ Show more ]
Zeus 62
Mong 43
Movie 38
sas.Sziky 20
Dewaltoss 14
yabsab 13
JulyZerg 9
Dota 2
qojqva1889
XcaliburYe273
Counter-Strike
fl0m4016
olofmeister1459
Stewie2K253
Other Games
gofns12469
FrodaN880
KnowMe146
Hui .96
QueenE88
Trikslyr78
Mew2King58
Grubby49
C9.Mang033
rGuardiaN19
OptimusSC23
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 14
EmSc2Tv 14
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• tFFMrPink 14
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 16
• Michael_bg 7
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1120
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie320
• Shiphtur159
Other Games
• Scarra896
• WagamamaTV402
Upcoming Events
BSL Team Wars
1h 24m
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
1h 24m
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
Code For Giants Cup
4h 54m
SC Evo League
18h 24m
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
Maestros of the Game
22h 24m
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d
SC Evo League
1d 18h
Maestros of the Game
1d 22h
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
RSL Revival
6 days
Reynor vs Astrea
Classic vs sOs
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.