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Crawler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Estonia248 Posts
November 21 2010 22:30 GMT
#1
Today I recieved a youtube link from a friend who used to play wow. They demonstrated a 4.0 patch arcane mage!



I bet you can't do half of this by buttrolling keyboard:



Somone up for a challenge? First player to reach D+ by face or buttrolling wins! You can still use mouse too ;P

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Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
November 21 2010 22:34 GMT
#2
eww i bet that keyboard was really dirty when he picked it up
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 21 2010 22:36 GMT
#3
There's no comparison between BW and WoW. WoW has barely any mechanical requirement at all, and streamlining your UI to require you to use less actions to get things done is a good thing, unlike BW, where being able to produce more actions more quickly is always better.

Also, Arcane mages are completely broken and overpowered at the moment, lol.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44106 Posts
November 21 2010 22:36 GMT
#4
LOL You should have compared that WoW video to Boxer playing that blind guy in a blind vs. blind match-up... and how after a while Boxer was like "Fuck this" and took off his blindfold.
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
November 21 2010 22:41 GMT
#5
OMG LOLOL i was expecting HAND SPAM BUT HIS FACE AHHA
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canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
November 21 2010 22:42 GMT
#6
Haha buttroll. Class is stupidly broken and easy.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
November 21 2010 22:44 GMT
#7
no way man it's all about


Playing wow with a steering wheel + pedals. Vs actual players =)
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
November 21 2010 22:45 GMT
#8
Show your friend some BW FPVODs as a rebuttal. He'll probably say something about Koreans being robots or some shit. As if WoW gameplay were somehow less robotic.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 21 2010 23:04 GMT
#9
WoW isn't very hard to play, but SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE AT IT
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MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
November 21 2010 23:16 GMT
#10
On November 22 2010 08:04 udgnim wrote:
but SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE AT IT


same goes for any other game, including bw/sc2.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
November 21 2010 23:18 GMT
#11
i don't get why you're comparing WoW faceroll to jaedong muta micro
it's a joke about how easy arcane mage is to play
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
November 21 2010 23:21 GMT
#12
Hahaha, this is more of a complaint about how easy it is to do burst damage on a mage. Good thing in catacylsm is that he will run out of mana in about 15 seconds if he does that.

And yes, people are awful at WoW because it appeals to non gamers.
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Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
November 21 2010 23:32 GMT
#13
On November 22 2010 08:16 MisterD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 08:04 udgnim wrote:
but SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE AT IT


same goes for any other game, including bw/sc2.


Yea but BW and SC2 are harder than most raiding in WoW.

Also, don't compare the class with the simplest rotation to Jaedong. If you really wanna compare skill, WoW arena is a lot harder than raiding, but even still BW is 10000x harder.
faction123
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia949 Posts
November 21 2010 23:49 GMT
#14
On November 22 2010 08:04 udgnim wrote:
WoW isn't very hard to play, but SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE AT IT


who cares?

i'd rather be bad at a bad game than spend my life trying to be good at it (like the kind of people who'd say what you just said, heh he he h)
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 21 2010 23:50 GMT
#15
Oh, but it hasn't been balanced for 12 years yet. Maybe you should not complain. Have faith in Blizzard. + Show Spoiler +
/sarcasm
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
November 21 2010 23:57 GMT
#16
On November 22 2010 08:32 Pibacc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 08:16 MisterD wrote:
On November 22 2010 08:04 udgnim wrote:
but SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE AT IT


same goes for any other game, including bw/sc2.


Yea but BW and SC2 are harder than most raiding in WoW.

Also, don't compare the class with the simplest rotation to Jaedong. If you really wanna compare skill, WoW arena is a lot harder than raiding, but even still BW is 10000x harder.

it's not comparable, as in wow you need to organise 24 or 9 other people to do their job perfectly, especially on hard modes you can really see who just wants to become a vegetable and who has a few brain cells left. Even though I agree with your argument, I'm interested in how BW is 10, 000 times harder than WoW.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 21 2010 23:57 GMT
#17
I used to play this MMORPG called Flyff, and every saturday theres a thing called guild isege, which is i guess like 3+ teams with 10 players each, 5 of them in the arena at once killing each other.

My friend and I both sieged on a TE Fighstick designed for fighting games. He MVP'd (highest score in the server) that week...

pretty obvious MMO's take zero mechanics
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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
November 22 2010 00:05 GMT
#18
RTS = Strategy and Mechanics
WoW = Coordination and Teamwork

No need to start this argument T_T
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 22 2010 03:06 GMT
#19
On November 22 2010 09:05 Backpack wrote:
RTS = Strategy and Mechanics
WoW = Coordination and Teamwork

No need to start this argument T_T

Case in point people. Apples. Oranges. Saying BW is better because it takes [blah blah insert here] just doesn't mean anything. Or WoW over BW for the same reason. The OP was humorous though, I like the literal interpretation of faceroll. The wheel and pedals are pretty crazy... I don't understand how he uses anything else besides his 3 main spells. Maybe he doesn't need them.
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
November 22 2010 04:44 GMT
#20
Cooperation and Teamwork doesn't require any actual skill. It just requires you not being an idiot.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 05:35:22
November 22 2010 05:32 GMT
#21
On November 22 2010 09:05 Backpack wrote:
RTS = Strategy and Mechanics
WoW = Coordination and Teamwork

No need to start this argument T_T


Nah, I was in one of the best guild in Europe in WoW and the thing with wow is more that the team is as strong as its weakest member. The problem was always one or two guy among the 40 or 25 people that was not good enough and it fucks your attemps.

There were very little challenges that require teamwork in wow, 90% of the boss fights required just everyone to do his thing good, and sorry but doing your own shit is a lot easier than BW and SC2. The issue was always some retard not being focus enough among the 25 people (or 40). There was actually some really tough things that required creativity and good thinking when the fights were bugged as hell at their release, but since wotlk it is nearly not the case anymore.

For arena though, yes teamwork and strategy were necessary but in the end there was just a lot of random numbers to screw things up which made me just lose faith in the competitive aspect of it.

In my opinion, WoW doesn't require much talent (you just have to find anough people talented enough, and this is the hard part : managing and recruiting for your guild) but it's still a fun game...
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