EPTProfessionalism: Mostly An Illusion - Page 5
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
You can't expand your audience if you restrict it (by your language) to people who don't want to hear f-bombs that often. You don't wait until you magically have a giant community to be professional. You act professional to get the credibility that will allow you to grow and go mainstream. I'm not saying you need professionalism during LO3, WoC or your porn stuff, but know this: Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to express itself forcibly. Grow up. | ||
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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geno
United States1404 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
Guys there's a sex show at 10 on the radio I tune into all the time, it's hilarious. People call "Dr.Drew" at 102.1 The Edge about their sex problems, most of them get slammed/trolled/ or laughed at for being stupid. Really explicit shit too, not PG junk. If you thought LO3 was crossing the line, you are fail. WHEAT ROCK ONNNNNNNNNN SIRRRR | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:14 Slardarxt wrote: Considering what TIME the show was broadcasted it's acceptable. LO3 was awesome, and a crime if you stop being awesome. Guys there's a sex show at 10 on the radio I tune into all the time, it's hilarious. People call "Dr.Drew" at 102.1 The Edge about their sex problems, most of them get slammed/trolled/ or laughed at for being stupid. Really explicit shit too, not PG junk. If you thought that was crossing the line, you are fail. WHEAT ROCK ONNNNNNNNNN SIRRRR rofl, i listen to that too | ||
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Baerinho
Germany257 Posts
From an europe perspective it also seems incredibly weird so see those public outcries over "things you shall not do"(biggest example: Janet Jacksons nippleslip in the superbowl), bleeping so much in shows or songs, while almost everybody knows, the reality isnt that way, the reality is like its shown in those podcasts, may it be SotG, Lo3, Adam Carolla or Bill Simmons. I am really really happy the internet finally provides an unfiltered, uncensored medium where people can really speak their mind, like i´d do with my mates. Especially liked your comparison to the superbowl. Rex Ryan in Hard Knocks dropped more F-Bombs than 3 Blue Flame Helions drop Probes in my Mineral Line. Please keep doing the stuff you do(thx btw wheat :D), keep dropping F-bombs, let Incontrol rant, and for those complaining, dont watch the content(which is free btw) given to the community by those nice and awesome guys (oh 111th post on the 11-11-10, shoulda waited a year for that one) | ||
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Clamev
Germany498 Posts
It´s because of people like you that i love the current E-sports foreigner scene so much. Because it has character there are real fucking people playing this game, expressing they´re emotions, being competitive and celebrate wins and sometimes just the awesomeness of the game itself. I don´t want "professionalism in esport.At least not right know.I mean i really don´t want the players and or casters to be suit wearing puppets speaking the same corporate Bullshit that we hear from "profesional" sports like football(soccer for people who call Handeg football). I want to see that those people that i am watching and rooting for are real people with real emotions and people like you are making it so we can all see that and take part in the experience. And THAT is what keeps most people watching not the game itself(unfortunately) but the personalities and dramas around it.There is a reason why Firebathero is so famous,There is a reason why it was SUCH a huge upset that Bisu raped Savior.(for people who followed sc:bw). In the end what i want to say is, Do i want esports to be bigger and for it to be profitable and socialy acceptable to be a Progamer? Yes. Do i want it to be clean cut Dry washed coorperate bullshit like moste other things are? Fuck NO.So fuck " profesionalism " . And FUCK Yeah DjWheat. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Graham
Canada1259 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:14 Slardarxt wrote: Guys there's a sex show at 10 on the radio I tune into all the time, it's hilarious. People call "Dr.Drew" at 102.1 The Edge about their sex problems, most of them get slammed/trolled/ or laughed at for being stupid. Really explicit shit too, not PG junk. If you thought LO3 was crossing the line, you are fail. WHEAT ROCK ONNNNNNNNNN SIRRRR Loveline is an amazing radio show, LOL. That being said; People need to stop getting so uptight over such a silly thing. If you're so disgusted at the use of vulgarities and what some view as "unprofessionalism", then don't watch... Kennigit said it best: Things Lo3 is trying to do: uncensored and interesting exposure of esports. Things Lo3 is not trying to do: get syndicated on NPR, Vision and The Women's Television Network. edit: For the record I LOVE every show djWHEAT produces, especially EpilepticGaming.. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:10 0neder wrote: Sorry Wheat, you can be edgy and fun without resorting to tired, unoriginal words like that. Unprofessional to drop f-bombs in your post. You can't expand your audience if you restrict it (by your language) to people who don't want to hear f-bombs that often. You don't wait until you magically have a giant community to be professional. You act professional to get the credibility that will allow you to grow and go mainstream. I'm not saying you need professionalism during LO3, WoC or your porn stuff, but know this: Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to express itself forcibly. Grow up. Lol..... It all depends on the environment and what you are trying to achieve. My cousin gets paid to get fucking wasted all day at work and party his ass off. Seriously. Is he being professional by most standards? Shit no. Is he being ULTRA Professional for his career? Shit yes. Last I check LO3 was not about being the politically correct show, it was about delivering E-sports info in a open format, and it's worked. DJwheat is the man, and I seriously love how he runs his show. I think it's a great show and he's absolutely right (as usual), we can get away with it now. In the future (10+ years here) when E-Sports is mainstream maybe not, but at the moment we can. By the way, ever hear of this guy? Let me quote you some of the shit he has publicly said “The guy sells T-shirts for a fuckin living, and now he wants to be a promoter? A T-shirt guy doesn’t know what he doesn’t know about this business yet…. He’s going to find out, though.” "If I were him, I'd want to fight me too. Why would I fight this goof? He's neither a fighter or a promoter, he's a f***ing loser." “Bring in those pompous, arrogant jackasses from Shotime, and they can come in, and I’d bring in, who’s our smallest fighter we have? Bring in a 100-pound fighter and kick the shit out of all of those dorks” "Go frost your fucking hair” “Whoever came up with that game plan ought to be kicked in nuts for 5 minutes" “This fight is a fucking freak show, and it's a fucking disgrace to the sport. We don't do that kind of thing in the UFC” I'll even up the ante and post a video that he had recorded and released to the public himself: This guy is the President and CEO of a multi billion dollar company that is the head of the largest growing sport in the world.... | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Keep doing what you're doing. Settles all the arguments in my head. ^.^ | ||
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clik
United States319 Posts
I've been following Wheat since the early days listening to EG on winamp, staying up really late listening to QLAN's being covered trying to sync up with gtv and winamp at the same time. I would even listen to Wheat cast Counterstrike (and I freaking hate that game); simply because I support the guy. I even bailed on some friends in Guild Wars (EP guild) to play with VXIX (under the name dstar) just to play with Wheat. This guy has been an inspiration to many people and myself to keep on support esports. Never give up on what we've been dreaming of brother. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
0neder (which reminds me of the movie That Thing You Do!) brings up a few interesting points that I want to respond to. On November 11 2010 08:10 0neder wrote: Sorry Wheat, you can be edgy and fun without resorting to tired, unoriginal words like that. Unprofessional to drop f-bombs in your post. I totally agree. That's why you don't hear me dropping F-Bombs during broadcasts like MLG, EG Masters, WCG, Deva2k10, etc. As far as dropping f-bombs in my post, my whole point is that it's ok to be "unprofessional". So we'll just have to disagree on that. You can't expand your audience if you restrict it (by your language) to people who don't want to hear f-bombs that often. You don't wait until you magically have a giant community to be professional. You act professional to get the credibility that will allow you to grow and go mainstream. I completely disagree with this. What I choose to do on my own individual shows and projects is entirely up to me. I served under the umbrella of several gaming organizations and a lack of freedom in my own creative outlets was jarring. When I finally left CGS I began my shows back up independently. At the same time I also sought out opportunities to let me continue my "professional" career as a gaming broadcaster (if there is such a thing). It worked out quite nice, as the show's audiences grew and I was able to expose many of them to a side of pro-gaming that they hadn't seen before. This resulted in interest. So what actually happened is my obscenity accepting or "unprofessional" audience got exposed to the many events I was doing that may not have otherwise. I haven't waited for a unicorn to vomit a giant community. I jumped on that ship back in 2002 when I began going to events and realizing that my particular taste in production doesn't work everywhere. That eventually led me to CGS which was the ultimate in "professional" game broadcasting. On DirecTV. There was no accidental F-Bomb allowance. That was the mainstream and everything was just fine. I believe I have acted in a manner which has allowed me to earn the credibility to go mainstream while continuing to grow the community... the way I do. I'm not saying you need professionalism during LO3, WoC or your porn stuff, but know this: Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to express itself forcibly. Grow up. There's a hollowing truth to that statement. But to me it's language. And I don't want to grow up. I'm a Toy's R Us kid. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:38 iCCup.Diamond wrote: A bunch of awesome relevant stuff about UFC and Dana White. I heart you Diamond. Because I absolutely LOVE Dana White. He is one of the people I look up to in a major way. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:43 djWHEAT wrote: I heart you Diamond. Because I absolutely LOVE Dana White. He is one of the people I look up to in a major way. Same here man, that guy has shown you can be edgy and be a person and still run a company or w/e. Part of the reason I'm so outspoken, I like his style, it's how I normally am, I don't wanna censor myself, I want to tell the truth with no sugar coating. | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to express itself forcibly. Grow up. Being professional is doing your job without gumming up the works with a bad attitude or meaningless whining. A pornstar can be professional while spewing obscenities at the top of her lungs. People aren't concerned about "professionalism," they're concerned about their virgin ears. Take your own advice and grow up. A bitchy nerd complaining about vulgar language on the internet... he's just a bitchy nerd. DJWheat is a man and talks like one. | ||
BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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