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Well said, I think the community appreciates the quality content you provide. Definitely don't let naysayers put the show down!
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Nicely said wheat and lol @ all these negative posts. Keep doing what you do and you guys did a great job at all MLG events so far.
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I loved it and love all your shows wheat. Keep up the good work and keep fighting the good fight.
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I thought show was awesome. It's nice to see the players' personalities outside a gaming context (well mostly outside a gaming context haha). Keep up the good work 
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A very well formulated argument wheat and I agree with you completely. I thought the show was hilarious! It was really nice to get to see the players just being normal people having a good time. Keep up the awesome work!
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On November 11 2010 09:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2010 09:06 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 09:00 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On November 11 2010 08:59 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 08:22 Clamev wrote:
I just really really want to thank you wheat.
It´s because of people like you that i love the current E-sports foreigner scene so much.
Because it has character there are real fucking people playing this game, expressing they´re emotions, being competitive and celebrate wins and sometimes just the awesomeness of the game itself.
I don´t want "professionalism in esport.At least not right know.I mean i really don´t want the players and or casters to be suit wearing puppets speaking the same corporate Bullshit that we hear from "profesional" sports like football(soccer for people who call Handeg football).
I want to see that those people that i am watching and rooting for are real people with real emotions and people like you are making it so we can all see that and take part in the experience.
And THAT is what keeps most people watching not the game itself(unfortunately) but the personalities and dramas around it.There is a reason why Firebathero is so famous,There is a reason why it was SUCH a huge upset that Bisu raped Savior.(for people who followed sc:bw).
In the end what i want to say is, Do i want esports to be bigger and for it to be profitable and socialy acceptable to be a Progamer? Yes. Do i want it to be clean cut Dry washed coorperate bullshit like moste other things are? Fuck NO.So fuck " profesionalism " .
And FUCK Yeah DjWheat. I've seen this argument so many times. Being immature is not having personality. Being polite is not having no personality. People are rude and immature and you think that it is called showing emotion. You probably rage after every game and type strings of curses to your opponent, and now you want the pros to be like that too. Why? Because you have a self-serving need to see your own faults mirrored by those you look up to. You don't want the pros to show personality, you want them to show your personality. A large amount of people who play video games project a volatile personality into the game to make up for a deficiency in real life. But not everyone. Btw, firebathero was more infamous than famous for his dance. Also, if you look at his recent interviews, he has matured greatly and seems to see the value in doing so. And yea I enjoyed the show but I feel bad for all of the children who watched because although most teens probably are used to that stuff, there are probably a few young and innocent kids who enjoy playing Starcraft and watching MLG. So maybe some sort of warning to them or their parents would be nice. They'll have their chance to go to frat parties later. I would take that argument and ask "Why where the kids parents letting him stay up till 2 am on internet streaming sites?" The lack of responsibilities in others doesn't justify our own abandonment of responsibility. And I'm sure kids browse teamliquid and there was a link to the stream at top of the site. Should the kids also be allowed to watch Cinamax or Showtime at 2AM? You know what happens there? People fuck each other in full nudity. Seriously check it out, it's pretty cool stuff. If this event had ran at 1PM EST, I could see a point but this is much like the issue of no kids being allowed to play violent video games. It should be the parents responsibility to choose what their kids do or don't watch and or play and to know when appropriate times for those activities are.
I might be totally wrong here, but I remember watching the stream starting around 10-11 EST. I have a pretty bad perception of time at night, thanks to having so much homework.
Anyways, I'm not arguing for the show to change at all. But the violent video games and shows on Cinemax all have ratings and warnings. That's all I'm advocating.
Also, kids aren't going to just randomly turn on the TV and watch porn unless they intended to. But if you hear that you're favorite progamers are gonna be on a live show, from your favorite progaming website, you would definitely be interested.
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On November 11 2010 09:59 Enervate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2010 09:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On November 11 2010 09:06 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 09:00 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On November 11 2010 08:59 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 08:22 Clamev wrote:
I just really really want to thank you wheat.
It´s because of people like you that i love the current E-sports foreigner scene so much.
Because it has character there are real fucking people playing this game, expressing they´re emotions, being competitive and celebrate wins and sometimes just the awesomeness of the game itself.
I don´t want "professionalism in esport.At least not right know.I mean i really don´t want the players and or casters to be suit wearing puppets speaking the same corporate Bullshit that we hear from "profesional" sports like football(soccer for people who call Handeg football).
I want to see that those people that i am watching and rooting for are real people with real emotions and people like you are making it so we can all see that and take part in the experience.
And THAT is what keeps most people watching not the game itself(unfortunately) but the personalities and dramas around it.There is a reason why Firebathero is so famous,There is a reason why it was SUCH a huge upset that Bisu raped Savior.(for people who followed sc:bw).
In the end what i want to say is, Do i want esports to be bigger and for it to be profitable and socialy acceptable to be a Progamer? Yes. Do i want it to be clean cut Dry washed coorperate bullshit like moste other things are? Fuck NO.So fuck " profesionalism " .
And FUCK Yeah DjWheat. I've seen this argument so many times. Being immature is not having personality. Being polite is not having no personality. People are rude and immature and you think that it is called showing emotion. You probably rage after every game and type strings of curses to your opponent, and now you want the pros to be like that too. Why? Because you have a self-serving need to see your own faults mirrored by those you look up to. You don't want the pros to show personality, you want them to show your personality. A large amount of people who play video games project a volatile personality into the game to make up for a deficiency in real life. But not everyone. Btw, firebathero was more infamous than famous for his dance. Also, if you look at his recent interviews, he has matured greatly and seems to see the value in doing so. And yea I enjoyed the show but I feel bad for all of the children who watched because although most teens probably are used to that stuff, there are probably a few young and innocent kids who enjoy playing Starcraft and watching MLG. So maybe some sort of warning to them or their parents would be nice. They'll have their chance to go to frat parties later. I would take that argument and ask "Why where the kids parents letting him stay up till 2 am on internet streaming sites?" The lack of responsibilities in others doesn't justify our own abandonment of responsibility. And I'm sure kids browse teamliquid and there was a link to the stream at top of the site. Should the kids also be allowed to watch Cinamax or Showtime at 2AM? You know what happens there? People fuck each other in full nudity. Seriously check it out, it's pretty cool stuff. If this event had ran at 1PM EST, I could see a point but this is much like the issue of no kids being allowed to play violent video games. It should be the parents responsibility to choose what their kids do or don't watch and or play and to know when appropriate times for those activities are. I might be totally wrong here, but I remember watching the stream starting around 10-11 EST. I have a pretty bad perception of time at night, thanks to having so much homework. Anyways, I'm not arguing for the show to change at all. But the violent video games and shows on Cinemax all have ratings and warnings. That's all I'm advocating. Also, kids aren't going to just randomly turn on the TV and watch porn unless they intended to. But if you hear that you're favorite progamers are gonna be on a live show, from your favorite progaming website, you would definitely be interested.
There is not rating board int he world for internet streaming, so not the best example as we CANNOT legally rate our stuff being the FCC or whoever did not rate it.
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wheats been doing this better and longer than almost everyone. haters should step the fuck down
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Keep up the great work DJWheat! You're an awesome caster and I think the Day[9] / DJWheat combo is tied for my favorite along with Artosis / Tasteless. Adding technical observation along with humor is by far the best way to keep people watching and entertained.
Its crazy to see what some people will bitch about, especially when it comes down to a PRIVATE STREAM that they aren't forced to watch. Dudes, if you don't like it, don't watch it. It's seriously as simple as that.
Now of course if this was at the MLG live on stream and people are getting drunk and cussing live on stream that'd be different lol. But seriously, people need to just chill the fuck out and let people have some fun.
Mad props man, keep it up!!!  \m/
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I unfortunately didn't catch your show so I can't comment on that but I loved your work (what I catched of it) during the beta. However as you / JP / Day are more and more the faces of SC2 it's important to differentiate yourself as an official caster on side A and an just for fun after party as side B. Not saying you shouldn't do the after parties but please state clearly at the beginning (as I said I didn't see it so I don't know if you did or not) that the after party is not a part of the official coverage of the MLG and that as more and more players join the party things may become less streamlined.
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On November 11 2010 10:45 Golden Ghost wrote:
I unfortunately didn't catch your show so I can't comment on that but I loved your work (what I catched of it) during the beta. However as you / JP / Day are more and more the faces of SC2 it's important to differentiate yourself as an official caster on side A and an just for fun after party as side B. Not saying you shouldn't do the after parties but please state clearly at the beginning (as I said I didn't see it so I don't know if you did or not) that the after party is not a part of the official coverage of the MLG and that as more and more players join the party things may become less streamlined.
I think the fact that it was streamed on a stream called "Cat in a Box" should have been a clue it was not MLG.
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On November 11 2010 10:03 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2010 09:59 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 09:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On November 11 2010 09:06 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 09:00 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On November 11 2010 08:59 Enervate wrote:On November 11 2010 08:22 Clamev wrote:
I just really really want to thank you wheat.
It´s because of people like you that i love the current E-sports foreigner scene so much.
Because it has character there are real fucking people playing this game, expressing they´re emotions, being competitive and celebrate wins and sometimes just the awesomeness of the game itself.
I don´t want "professionalism in esport.At least not right know.I mean i really don´t want the players and or casters to be suit wearing puppets speaking the same corporate Bullshit that we hear from "profesional" sports like football(soccer for people who call Handeg football).
I want to see that those people that i am watching and rooting for are real people with real emotions and people like you are making it so we can all see that and take part in the experience.
And THAT is what keeps most people watching not the game itself(unfortunately) but the personalities and dramas around it.There is a reason why Firebathero is so famous,There is a reason why it was SUCH a huge upset that Bisu raped Savior.(for people who followed sc:bw).
In the end what i want to say is, Do i want esports to be bigger and for it to be profitable and socialy acceptable to be a Progamer? Yes. Do i want it to be clean cut Dry washed coorperate bullshit like moste other things are? Fuck NO.So fuck " profesionalism " .
And FUCK Yeah DjWheat. I've seen this argument so many times. Being immature is not having personality. Being polite is not having no personality. People are rude and immature and you think that it is called showing emotion. You probably rage after every game and type strings of curses to your opponent, and now you want the pros to be like that too. Why? Because you have a self-serving need to see your own faults mirrored by those you look up to. You don't want the pros to show personality, you want them to show your personality. A large amount of people who play video games project a volatile personality into the game to make up for a deficiency in real life. But not everyone. Btw, firebathero was more infamous than famous for his dance. Also, if you look at his recent interviews, he has matured greatly and seems to see the value in doing so. And yea I enjoyed the show but I feel bad for all of the children who watched because although most teens probably are used to that stuff, there are probably a few young and innocent kids who enjoy playing Starcraft and watching MLG. So maybe some sort of warning to them or their parents would be nice. They'll have their chance to go to frat parties later. I would take that argument and ask "Why where the kids parents letting him stay up till 2 am on internet streaming sites?" The lack of responsibilities in others doesn't justify our own abandonment of responsibility. And I'm sure kids browse teamliquid and there was a link to the stream at top of the site. Should the kids also be allowed to watch Cinamax or Showtime at 2AM? You know what happens there? People fuck each other in full nudity. Seriously check it out, it's pretty cool stuff. If this event had ran at 1PM EST, I could see a point but this is much like the issue of no kids being allowed to play violent video games. It should be the parents responsibility to choose what their kids do or don't watch and or play and to know when appropriate times for those activities are. I might be totally wrong here, but I remember watching the stream starting around 10-11 EST. I have a pretty bad perception of time at night, thanks to having so much homework. Anyways, I'm not arguing for the show to change at all. But the violent video games and shows on Cinemax all have ratings and warnings. That's all I'm advocating. Also, kids aren't going to just randomly turn on the TV and watch porn unless they intended to. But if you hear that you're favorite progamers are gonna be on a live show, from your favorite progaming website, you would definitely be interested. There is not rating board int he world for internet streaming, so not the best example as we CANNOT legally rate our stuff being the FCC or whoever did not rate it.
I didn't mean to get the stream rated, just like put a brief viewer discretion is advised thing like on TV shows that contain even mild violence or profanity or sex. That way people know what to expect so people who don't approve can just not watch. This might have helped prevent a lot of the disgruntled viewers, and even if they did complain, Wheat could just say "I warned you". I personally didn't have any complaints with the actual content, but I went in not expecting what it was. I actually thought it was going to be more like a discussion about Starcraft because I heard other people call it an episode of SotG but it turned out to be more like a behind-the-scenes, which is totally awesome for me, but maybe not others. I've never watched any of the other Lo3s or SotG so I can't comment on how this compared to those.
I definitely encourage Wheat to do more of these.
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Honestly, I can't understand the people kicking off about the language used. Are these the same people that open a copy of Playboy and complain because they saw a nipple? Really, if gritty language offends you then stick to the 'mainstream' streams. If you guys bothered to check the Live on 3 listing in itunes it is listed as 'explicit'.
I had no idea so many Daily Mail readers were gamers as well :o
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Wheat you are such a baller, I actually just watched a gaming documentary that was shot years ago yesterday and you were in it. keep on doing what you do man.
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I personally loved the show, it was great being able to see everyone relaxing and get to know our favorite players more personality wise. Really gave the atmosphere of being there, all the deeper stuff is what keeps you hooked in watching starcraft for years and years.
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On November 11 2010 10:48 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2010 10:45 Golden Ghost wrote:
I unfortunately didn't catch your show so I can't comment on that but I loved your work (what I catched of it) during the beta. However as you / JP / Day are more and more the faces of SC2 it's important to differentiate yourself as an official caster on side A and an just for fun after party as side B. Not saying you shouldn't do the after parties but please state clearly at the beginning (as I said I didn't see it so I don't know if you did or not) that the after party is not a part of the official coverage of the MLG and that as more and more players join the party things may become less streamlined. I think the fact that it was streamed on a stream called "Cat in a Box" should have been a clue it was not MLG.
I don't have a clue from where people got that "it's an official MLG cast" feel. I kinda just waked up in a good time and started to watch it before actually knowing what it really is and not for a second I thought this is some MLG aftershow :>
It was a awesome show btw I like these relaxed and for lack of better word, real shows. It was very nice to see the players in a real enviroment.
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Yeah wheat don't listen to the haters the show was awesome and you guys are total ballers. I also liked your views on professionalism and that people need to take life with a grain of salt. Keep up the good work.
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WHEAT I SUPPORT YOUR STANCE ON STRADDLING. GET IT? FUCKING AMAZING PUN
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DJWheat, while professionalism doesn't seem to be a major concern, could you at least try be mature in your writing? Using the word 'fuck' should be limited to adolescents and porn stars.
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