EPTThe Importance of APM - Page 3
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zerious
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Snuggles
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GreatFall
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It's not the quantity, but the quality of the actions! | ||
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QuanticHawk
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EatThePath
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 ceci n'est pas un APM thread | ||
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scDeluX
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Lemonwalrus
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Sharkified
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When you know what to do when, you get a much more effective use of your actions. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
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Licmyobelisk
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Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
On November 05 2010 18:46 writer22816 wrote: 100% agree. OP you should get off your high horse and stop thinking that high apm is obnoxious and showing off. I think high APM is obnoxious if you're not actually doing anything. In a way. My boyfriend and his friend just spam highlighting groups when they're not doing anything to have high APM. I don't honestly see a point. If you're spamming making workers even though no minerals or things like that, I see the reason behind that, but I don't see a reason in spamming when all you're doing is highlighting groups. They don't even go to the group, just highlight it. If you're going back and forth between units it's completely different and I see a point to that too, haha. Maybe I just haven't grasped the NEED FOR HIGH APM OH EM GEE thing yet. ;~; My APM is probably incredibly low(I don't watch my replays that often because i'm embarrassed by how poorly I play sometimes XD), but I use all my hot keys.. -shrug- I don't think having low APM is something to be proud of, though. I would like it if I played a bit quicker and had a bit higher APM. Practice makes perfect though. :< Maybe I should start spamming keys too. | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
Do you warm up before a workout? Do you spam at the start of an sc2 game? These 3 questions are equivalent. Edit: To clarify, my 'spam' at the start of the game is me 5sd'ing to make drones (even if I don't have enough minerals) and then going back to my overlord to give move commands. At the start of the game this does nothing, but being able to make units quickly and get back to microing a battle can be the difference between a win and a loss later on in the game, and practicing this at the start of each game will make me better/faster at it. Also I try to keep the mentality of playing quickly throughout the game so that I don't slip on my macro because I'm not pushing myself. | ||
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Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
I did say, my boyfriend and his friend just spam highlighting units. They don't even go to the units, just highlight them. This, I don't see a point of. I see the point of spam making workers and going to your overlords. I even said that. I see a point of spamming APM when you're making workers or units, even without enough minerals or vespene, and I see the point of moving around units, and going back and forth between units, buildings, but if you're just sitting there spamming (4, 5, 4, 5, so control groups) and not even going to them, then, what is the point? All you're doing is spamming them so your APM is going up, and not really doing anything. I mean, I've seen games where people I know who are really good stop for a second, then keep going. They don't needlessly spam highlighting groups just because. I spam making SCVs to a degree, maybe not as much as other people, but I still do it. | ||
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Lemonwalrus
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Even so I still feel that the mentality of playing fast throughout the game is helpful...but yeah, throw out everything in my post except for the last line I guess. | ||
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Raeleigh
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EchOne
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Boxing is useful only if you actually attend to its shape and accuracy, in which case you're essentially practicing mouse control. Switching between hotkey groups without looking or without gaining any information per switch (it can be fine if you're switching across pending construction or research) is entirely useless. In BW when I first learned of APM my play improved dramatically simply because after spamming, my brain got fucking bored of doing idle actions, so I was forced to fill that empty APM with useful APM. The simple rhythm of maintaining 200-300 APM also helped keep time intuitively, so I would never ever zone out or get hung up on a thought. I find APM vastly less beneficial in SC2 simply because I personally am not aware of everything I should leverage it on. | ||
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Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
On November 06 2010 06:55 EchOne wrote: The kind of spam wherein you switch between different hotkey groups to spring back and forth across the map is useful. That kind of idle spam helps keep your focus split and fixes your awareness on all your relevant assets, ensuring that you don't tunnel vision at whatever you were doing last and miss something that you should've seen. Switching between hotkey groups without looking or without gaining any information per switch (it can be fine if you're switching across pending construction or research) is entirely useless. Yeah, the first point is something I do. Not as frequently as I should, but I do it. The second one there.. I know lots of people who do it. :r I don't understand. I guess it'll help you get the feeling of moving fast with your hands across the keyboard and such but still, seems a bit useless IMO. And by a bit I meant incredibly. | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
Play however you want, I don't care what your APM is. However, it's been shown time and time again that pros generally have high APM as a side effect of their constant checking of production and multitasking. ... This kind of thread pops up like, every other day. | ||
JIJIyO
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