EPTOn November 01 2010 20:21 Starparty wrote:
crescendo is the word you're looking for
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On November 01 2010 13:16 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
Yeah you can totally tell it sounds hardstyle. What would really make it even more hardstyle would be a BPM increase. Usually hardstyle is running at about 170ish, while trance is at 130-138ish, so it's kind of underwhelming to have hardstyle instruments with a low trance bpm (i.e. increasing the bpm would probably build that high energy factor more that hardstyle really encompasses).
I'll be fully honest I don't know what to call the climax either! Been trying to find out what the heck it's called for months but I suppose climax is a good. For some reason I have the word "lead" in my mind for the definition, but I am not 100% sure. I'm going to have to ask one of my friends who is majoring in music.
Yep no problem.
On November 01 2010 13:06 Hakker wrote:
Funny story actually, this song started as a hardstyle track, but I quickly realized hardstyle is way above my technical skill level, so I changed a lot around to make it sound like this. I really don't know all the qualifications for the different subgenres so I just called it the first thing that came to mind lol XD
BecausE of that though, when I started writing I was kind of trying to mimic the structures I found in hardstyle tracks which were usually something like intro-bigger intro- break- 'climax' (not sure what to call it lol) - outro. But yeah after not listening to it for a while I do think it sounds kind of strange.
Anywayys, thanks for the feedback!
On November 01 2010 12:46 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
For a first try, pretty darn impressive. Now obviously there are a ton of things to talk about, but here are just 3 of my opinions that may improve your track:
1. I wouldn't call it trance. Based on the instruments used and the general feeling of the track, it sounds more hardcore/hardstlye. Bpm wise however... I am estimating it is somewhere along the lines of 130 so that is more trancey. Now you may be thinking, "oh god honestly who cares, trance, hardcore, why does it matter...", but it really does make a big difference. The reasoning is that people who like trance music, will generally search for "trance music". People who search for hardcore music will look for hardcore music as well. If you say that this track is a trance song, you will more likely find trance-listeners that listen to your song for 3 seconds and leave because it sounds hardcore. So yeah, very much recommend sticking to a genre just to boost your views.
2. This track really needs a strong kick. I am using sennheiser hd-25 headphones, pretty well one of the best headphones you can buy, and I can barely hear a kick for the life of me. All good electronic dance music songs have a strong kick. That's really what characterizes electronic dance music, that "boom boom boom boom" over and over. I'd really focus on making your kick more pronounced.
3. I find the actual structure of the song is not standard. Now I am not sure if this track is an edit version, or the full version, but the structure isn't made like most electronic dance music songs. There are way too many build ups and lows, and not enough of the "main" portion of the song (i.e. like the chorus). I'd recommend buying a few popular electronic dance music songs and analyzing them (if you can do it with FL studio, if not just analyze it with a free trial of virtual DJ), to see how they are structured, because structure does make a huge difference.
Anyway I hope this helped.
For a first try, pretty darn impressive. Now obviously there are a ton of things to talk about, but here are just 3 of my opinions that may improve your track:
1. I wouldn't call it trance. Based on the instruments used and the general feeling of the track, it sounds more hardcore/hardstlye. Bpm wise however... I am estimating it is somewhere along the lines of 130 so that is more trancey. Now you may be thinking, "oh god honestly who cares, trance, hardcore, why does it matter...", but it really does make a big difference. The reasoning is that people who like trance music, will generally search for "trance music". People who search for hardcore music will look for hardcore music as well. If you say that this track is a trance song, you will more likely find trance-listeners that listen to your song for 3 seconds and leave because it sounds hardcore. So yeah, very much recommend sticking to a genre just to boost your views.
2. This track really needs a strong kick. I am using sennheiser hd-25 headphones, pretty well one of the best headphones you can buy, and I can barely hear a kick for the life of me. All good electronic dance music songs have a strong kick. That's really what characterizes electronic dance music, that "boom boom boom boom" over and over. I'd really focus on making your kick more pronounced.
3. I find the actual structure of the song is not standard. Now I am not sure if this track is an edit version, or the full version, but the structure isn't made like most electronic dance music songs. There are way too many build ups and lows, and not enough of the "main" portion of the song (i.e. like the chorus). I'd recommend buying a few popular electronic dance music songs and analyzing them (if you can do it with FL studio, if not just analyze it with a free trial of virtual DJ), to see how they are structured, because structure does make a huge difference.
Anyway I hope this helped.
Funny story actually, this song started as a hardstyle track, but I quickly realized hardstyle is way above my technical skill level, so I changed a lot around to make it sound like this. I really don't know all the qualifications for the different subgenres so I just called it the first thing that came to mind lol XD
BecausE of that though, when I started writing I was kind of trying to mimic the structures I found in hardstyle tracks which were usually something like intro-bigger intro- break- 'climax' (not sure what to call it lol) - outro. But yeah after not listening to it for a while I do think it sounds kind of strange.
Anywayys, thanks for the feedback!
Yeah you can totally tell it sounds hardstyle. What would really make it even more hardstyle would be a BPM increase. Usually hardstyle is running at about 170ish, while trance is at 130-138ish, so it's kind of underwhelming to have hardstyle instruments with a low trance bpm (i.e. increasing the bpm would probably build that high energy factor more that hardstyle really encompasses).
I'll be fully honest I don't know what to call the climax either! Been trying to find out what the heck it's called for months but I suppose climax is a good. For some reason I have the word "lead" in my mind for the definition, but I am not 100% sure. I'm going to have to ask one of my friends who is majoring in music.
Yep no problem.
crescendo is the word you're looking for
lol yeah i knew there was a word for it i was forgetting XD
