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On October 29 2010 02:03 Xxavi wrote:
I am baffled by the lack of protoss players. I refuse to accept that the reason is that there are no talented ones to begin with. No, it's statistically impossible. AFAIK, there are more protoss players than Zerg or Terran.
Sure, there wasn't many legendary protoss switching like Nada and Boxer, but even with that, it just feeling wrong. Not sure if it is because of patch or because the way Blizzard made protoss in this game. I.e. can roflstomp the opponent, or can die very easily as well. The units are very expensive and if you do a mistake with them, it will be a very expensive one. As opposed to cheaper armies of terran and zerg, and thus, allowing to lose more of them without as much hurt.
I find Inca, Genius, MC (dunno how the hell he lost) and tester (even tho he didnt make to gsl 2) awesomely good P players ....
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On October 29 2010 02:02 snowdrift wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 01:40 noD wrote:
I wonder if people bashing the author of the blog knows that he played mgl and did actually good .... The author of the blog is also quite e-famous for constant whining in the C&C community so this is par for the course
Yes, that's completely true. Games that are not balanced piss me off  Brood War really spoils gamers when it comes to balance...
and ffs, my specific player predictions got raped lol.
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On October 29 2010 03:12 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 02:02 snowdrift wrote:On October 29 2010 01:40 noD wrote:
I wonder if people bashing the author of the blog knows that he played mgl and did actually good .... The author of the blog is also quite e-famous for constant whining in the C&C community so this is par for the course Yes, that's completely true. Games that are not balanced piss me off Brood War really spoils gamers when it comes to balance... and ffs, my specific player predictions got raped lol.
Rofl you're such a tool.
"games that are not balanced piss me off" yet you made 0 posts about Zerg when they had 2 tournament wins compared to Terrans 78 or whatever it was.
Now the latest patch is out like a week? And you start a massive thread claiming Zerg is now
obviously too powerful.
It's blatantly obvious you're just being partisan and whining because things just got hard for YOU personally.
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On October 29 2010 04:56 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 03:12 avilo wrote:On October 29 2010 02:02 snowdrift wrote:On October 29 2010 01:40 noD wrote:
I wonder if people bashing the author of the blog knows that he played mgl and did actually good .... The author of the blog is also quite e-famous for constant whining in the C&C community so this is par for the course Yes, that's completely true. Games that are not balanced piss me off Brood War really spoils gamers when it comes to balance... and ffs, my specific player predictions got raped lol. Rofl you're such a tool. "games that are not balanced piss me off" yet you made 0 posts about Zerg when they had 2 tournament wins compared to Terrans 78 or whatever it was. Now the latest patch is out like a week? And you start a massive thread claiming Zerg is now obviously too powerful. It's blatantly obvious you're just being partisan and whining because things just got hard for YOU personally.
some random posts i've made in other threads:
cool is probably my favorite SC2 progamer in korea right now. And i'm a Terran player lol just too damn good. TOOO...FUCKING...GOOD!!! He plays ZvT how it's meant to be played, plays infestor mid-game just like SC1 defilers, to delay and stall until he has mass ultras - hell, sometimes he even wins with ling/infestor/roach. good stuff.
On September 27 2010 15:42 avilo wrote:Dunno about some of the stuff but I completely agree with you that the Zerg is missing scourge. Pretty sure every Zerg will agree with you 
On September 28 2010 08:55 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 07:33 beetlelisk wrote:
How many Zergs have you seen morphing new tumors as soon as cooldown ends?
Or using Overlords with speed to drop creep just at the end of tumors' range so they can morph there ASAP instead of waiting for creep (from tumors) to get there? well, that's easy to say, but have you played Zerg? You can't have 10 overlords making a creep highway or you lose 80 supply in less than 20 seconds. Creep tumors being buffed would be really good imo, it would give Zerg a better chance without directly affecting unit balance through buffs/nerfs. But there's already lots of problems there too of course. Blizzard really is gonna have a hard time on what to do with Zerg because a few slight changes and Zerg becomes the most powerful race, and too few or not enough love and it will stay the weakest.
...there's a TON more i made when "T was OP" in defense that Zerg had limited options early game and needed buffs. Go find them, or troll harder.
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On October 29 2010 05:30 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 04:56 Klive5ive wrote:On October 29 2010 03:12 avilo wrote:On October 29 2010 02:02 snowdrift wrote:On October 29 2010 01:40 noD wrote:
I wonder if people bashing the author of the blog knows that he played mgl and did actually good .... The author of the blog is also quite e-famous for constant whining in the C&C community so this is par for the course Yes, that's completely true. Games that are not balanced piss me off Brood War really spoils gamers when it comes to balance... and ffs, my specific player predictions got raped lol. Rofl you're such a tool. "games that are not balanced piss me off" yet you made 0 posts about Zerg when they had 2 tournament wins compared to Terrans 78 or whatever it was. Now the latest patch is out like a week? And you start a massive thread claiming Zerg is now obviously too powerful. It's blatantly obvious you're just being partisan and whining because things just got hard for YOU personally. some random posts i've made in other threads: Show nested quote +cool is probably my favorite SC2 progamer in korea right now. And i'm a Terran player lol just too damn good. TOOO...FUCKING...GOOD!!! He plays ZvT how it's meant to be played, plays infestor mid-game just like SC1 defilers, to delay and stall until he has mass ultras - hell, sometimes he even wins with ling/infestor/roach. good stuff. Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 15:42 avilo wrote:Dunno about some of the stuff but I completely agree with you that the Zerg is missing scourge. Pretty sure every Zerg will agree with you Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 08:55 avilo wrote:On September 28 2010 07:33 beetlelisk wrote:
How many Zergs have you seen morphing new tumors as soon as cooldown ends?
Or using Overlords with speed to drop creep just at the end of tumors' range so they can morph there ASAP instead of waiting for creep (from tumors) to get there? well, that's easy to say, but have you played Zerg? You can't have 10 overlords making a creep highway or you lose 80 supply in less than 20 seconds. Creep tumors being buffed would be really good imo, it would give Zerg a better chance without directly affecting unit balance through buffs/nerfs. But there's already lots of problems there too of course. Blizzard really is gonna have a hard time on what to do with Zerg because a few slight changes and Zerg becomes the most powerful race, and too few or not enough love and it will stay the weakest. ...there's a TON more i made when "T was OP" in defense that Zerg had limited options early game and needed buffs. Go find them, or troll harder.
I read these forums A LOT I know what you've been posting.
Those examples are nothing compared to this thread.
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P and T have a different macro mechanic than zerg. Therefore, EXPLOIT the shit out of it. Unlike P and T, zergs can't macro as well as make units. Trading armies with the zerg is what you want the zerg to do. Keep those larva on producing zerglings and low tier units as long as possible. Then crush the zerg when you know you have the econ advantage. It's the only way to win a macro game with a zerg.
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Well I noticied in a few recent replays where FruitdealeR gets rolled by some basic harass followed by some drops. Late game terran has just evolved into mining out your main and expansion, then trying to secure 1-2 PF whilst dropping everywhere, exchanging cheap marines for whatever you can. The zerg will continue to exchange its more expensive army with your cheaper army. But in most cases the zerg army crushes the terran army (unless hes being really outplayed early game).
Terran now is all about some small harass, grabbing expos when you can, and then harass until your opponent quits
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Honestly, I agree with the OP that Zerg seems stronger than Terran right now, whether that's the result of balance or play-style though, I have no idea.
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On October 29 2010 09:38 Galaxy77 wrote:
Well I noticied in a few recent replays where FruitdealeR gets rolled by some basic harass followed by some drops. Late game terran has just evolved into mining out your main and expansion, then trying to secure 1-2 PF whilst dropping everywhere, exchanging cheap marines for whatever you can. The zerg will continue to exchange its more expensive army with your cheaper army. But in most cases the zerg army crushes the terran army (unless hes being really outplayed early game).
Terran now is all about some small harass, grabbing expos when you can, and then harass until your opponent quits
Basically SK Terran style in SC1
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all I have to say is watch nadas game vs leenock on shakuras. I never see terrans playing this strong macro style when they have the means to defend every fucking expansion so well, keep one/two basing and you will keep losing. that is all.
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On October 30 2010 01:56 SwaY- wrote:
all I have to say is watch nadas game vs leenock on shakuras. I never see terrans playing this strong macro style when they have the means to defend every fucking expansion so well, keep one/two basing and you will keep losing. that is all.
You have it all wrong. Terrans really have trouble getting map control, and a lot of times end up getting stuck on two bases after all their little harrasses are absorbed and the Zerg re-drones.
And when that doesn't happen and you see the Terran on two base, use common sense. Terran cannot beat Zerg in a late game macro game - that's why you see a lot of "good terrans" staying on two base, because they know if the game goes any longer they will lose guaranteed.
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On October 30 2010 02:23 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 01:56 SwaY- wrote:
all I have to say is watch nadas game vs leenock on shakuras. I never see terrans playing this strong macro style when they have the means to defend every fucking expansion so well, keep one/two basing and you will keep losing. that is all. You have it all wrong. Terrans really have trouble getting map control, and a lot of times end up getting stuck on two bases after all their little harrasses are absorbed and the Zerg re-drones. And when that doesn't happen and you see the Terran on two base, use common sense. Terran cannot beat Zerg in a late game macro game - that's why you see a lot of "good terrans" staying on two base, because they know if the game goes any longer they will lose guaranteed.
terrans dont have trouble getting map control
YOU have trouble getting map control. Please dont generalize, I'm rank 1 in my bronze league and i have absolutely no problems vs zerg so you can rest assured i know what im saying.
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The funniest thing ever would be if the final turns out to be a TvT.
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On October 30 2010 04:18 Klockan3 wrote:
The funniest thing ever would be if the final turns out to be a TvT.
Which isnt quite unlikely ....
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why is this kind of bad thread with pointelss discussion still alive? 
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So lately ive been playing my tvz like tvp where I outexpand the zerg and just try to trade armies of mmm and drop the zerg. Its been working ok so far I guess but I know that its autolose if zerg gets to 4 bases before me.
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On October 31 2010 02:11 LeibSaiLeib wrote:why is this kind of bad thread with pointelss discussion still alive?
why does boxer agree with me?
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On October 30 2010 04:18 Klockan3 wrote:
The funniest thing ever would be if the final turns out to be a TvT.
Yeah, four Terrans in the Ro8... Someone must be furiously kneading their prayer beads and hoping that Zenio takes it all so that he doesn't look foolish.
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On October 31 2010 03:40 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 02:11 LeibSaiLeib wrote:why is this kind of bad thread with pointelss discussion still alive? why does boxer agree with me?
He also plays T. He has as much reason to be biased for his own race, if not more than you, because he has a career set on it. Even if the game is totally unbalanced, if you have a job dependent on it, anyone would definitely claim "the game is 100% balanced" for his own benefit. You don't have as strong as a reason to be as biased as Boxer but you're still human and selfish. I'm sure if T started out 2000 minerals while the other races started out with the usual 50, I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to justify it with the most ridiculous reasoning by saying that "T needs the MOST minerals because it's the LEAST cost efficient race!" or something like that lol, especially knowing what kind of stuff you've been spouting
Seeing as how this thread isn't closed, Im starting to believe that the higher-ups in TL overlook their own no balance discussion rule if it happens to be a certain belief that they like hearing
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