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ArbAttack
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada198 Posts
October 25 2010 02:46 GMT
#41
Thanks, I'll keep at it then and just hope the it'll get a lot better from the 3rd book onwards.

I'm 20 for people that were asking. Definitely 2 age groups above target audience for the first two books I guess haha.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
October 25 2010 02:47 GMT
#42
Books 1-4 are good, rest are terrible (some have a few shining moments, i.e. Luna, but that's about it). Movies 1, 2 and 4 are good, rest are terrible.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 25 2010 03:49 GMT
#43
On October 25 2010 11:47 Tyrio wrote:
Books 1-4 are good, rest are terrible (some have a few shining moments, i.e. Luna, but that's about it). Movies 1, 2 and 4 are good, rest are terrible.

O.o
Really?
You thought the best movies were 1 2 and 4? The movies, in my opinion, didn't start getting good until movie 5 (with the change of directors), And personally I thought books 1 and two were a little slow (of course worth reading for me, but I can see other not liking them as much as others). I thought the series really started picking up after book 3. Though, again, i did like the first two books too .
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
October 25 2010 03:56 GMT
#44
I read the first book when I was 17 I think and the 7th one when I was 22...

My favourite books where 2,4,6 and 1 in that order. Regarding the movies, I found most of them quite boring. Especially first ones. Though 4 and 6 were OK I guess.


I don't understand why people like 3rd book so much. I thought it was boring. And it was that book that stopped my older sister from reading further. So if you don't like the first two there is little hope you will like the rest, in my opinion. But keep trying
-Genome-
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia156 Posts
October 25 2010 04:16 GMT
#45
Lol I was such a big fan of the books I couldn't stand the movies. I used play a game called Harry Potter trivia where me and a friend or brother or w/e would take turns asking each other a question about some weird fact in the book. I'd read them all like 5 or 6 times so I always ended up winning.

Then the movies came out and although I was pretty hyped up about the first one, I couldn't enjoy because I compared every little bit of the book to the movie and got annoyed when they weren't the same lol. Also, I hated that when I went back to read the books after seeing a movie, suddenly my head was filled with all these visions from the movie, instead of the images I'd come up with myself. For example I thought of snape as kind of looking like one the ghosts out of casper (the left one).

They're definitely worth reading, J.K. Rowling is pretty amazing at creating the wizard world, so it really is a top fantasy book.
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
October 25 2010 04:36 GMT
#46
I definitely enjoyed the first three books the most. I guess it was because I was 11 years old back when they came out and being the first actual fantasy/magical books I've ever read, it was just pretty damn fascinating. I remember finishing PoA on my way home on the school bus because the last 50-70 pages or so are pretty damn suspenseful and intense in that one.

The books sort of went downhill for me when they started getting "serious," but I know there are a lot of people who enjoyed the books more as the series progressed. Also, the books probably won't be as enjoyable as they could have been since you've watched all the movies and thus, know the plot and will view the characters as presented in the movie and not from your own imagination. For instance, I imagined Hermione as just an average looking girl, but she's gorgeous in the films. Even Rowling said that Emma Watson is not Hermione Granger. I guess now that I think about it, it could be difficult to try to get into the books after you've watched the movies.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 25 2010 05:42 GMT
#47
The third book and movie are fantastic. In terms of writing the third book is the transition to a darker setting and the third movie broke away from the childish feel the first two had.
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NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 14:39:06
October 25 2010 14:31 GMT
#48
On October 25 2010 10:42 riptide wrote:
If you're a fan of good writing, you'll like Harry Potter.

This made me cry as nothing could be further from the truth. The rest of the post does have some good points, like character development, which is ok, nothing amazing, but better then some other children's books. But the fact remains they are with out a doubt children and teen books. Some adults may enjoy them, but that does not change the fact that they are children books, and from a literary standpoint they are pretty poor.

Here, from page 324 of The Order of the Phoenix, to give you a typical example, are six consecutive descriptions of the way people speak. "...said Snape maliciously," "... said Harry furiously", " ... he said glumly", "... said Hermione severely", "... said Ron indignantly", " ... said Hermione loftily". Do I need to explain why that is such second-rate writing?


I started reading them when I was 13 or so, and I did read them all, but by the end it was just to finish this thing that I had been doing for almost a decade. I would never recommend it to any adult, and I wouldn't really recommended it to anything past a 3rd grader either. I think there are much better books for children/teens out there, and the same holds true for adults.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 25 2010 15:22 GMT
#49
The movies are so bad. Books are decent-good. Dunno if/when I'll read them again though.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
October 25 2010 16:05 GMT
#50
I'm 35, I tried and failed.

Cheers
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 18:22:21
October 25 2010 18:22 GMT
#51
On October 25 2010 10:42 riptide wrote:
If you're a fan of good writing, you'll like Harry Potter.


What???


Maybe shes a writer who knows how to appeal to a certain group of people, but she is hardly a good technical writer by any stretch of the imagination. Like just a shade above Stephanie Meyers

There's a big difference between being a good writer and being a good story teller. I'm not even sure if she's the later, since she constantly gets ripped for being contrived, using Deus ex machinas like a crutch and other shitty writing. I had to read a ton of criticism about her in college because my one professor loved the series but hated that people worshiped her as a good writer.

I actually was trying to find some criticisms just for this, and one of the best comments about how she and George Lucas have the misfortune of being two individuals who stumbled across great stories but ended up butchering it in the end due to their own incompetence
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 25 2010 19:18 GMT
#52
book 3 is the best imo. closely followed by book 4. and then 2,1,7 in that order. I found book 5 and 6 awful.

I can see why you would think book 1 and 2 is boring especially since you know all the plot twists already. If you are really bored, i'd recommend trying to read 3 and 4. if it does not work then yea maybe you have outgrown it.
mykyoyo
Profile Joined July 2009
United States33 Posts
October 25 2010 21:42 GMT
#53
I think Harry Potter isn't enjoyed by adults because there's very little to take from or learn from the text, and also, there's very little room for the reader or even the characters to enjoy any sorts of real revelations about JK Rowling's world of magic and spells due to, as Hawk points out a few post before this, the (ab)use of Dues ex Machina.

It's hard to reflect on a lot of massive works like the HP series or something like Star Wars and not feel like it could have been better, but that's probably a better discussion for another topic.
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1017 Posts
October 26 2010 02:47 GMT
#54
The first 1 is worth reading - she creates a pretty cool world. The 2nd and 3rd aren't bad either. After that, it feels like she fired her editor - someone she sorely needed.

By the 6th and 7th everything is just a mess.
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