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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
October 22 2010 09:05 GMT
#1
1. I keep losing to momentary blunders IMO, for example, my last game it was on LT close and we both were near 200 armies (I had a 4th going up and he was on 2 base so I was trying to wait it out) and my army is chilling by the XN tower between us and while I'm looking at my base or something he moves forward a little and sieges like 10 tanks and kills my entire zealot (and sentry cause I hotkey those together, this game is making me come up with a new system cause I don't like that) force, and then rolls me over with his biomech.

And twice tonight I already lost to 5 roach rush and 3 rax, the 5RR because I grabbed my sentry like 2 seconds late and they were already all up my ramp and killing my stalker. Similar with the 3 rax it was delayed a little so I was trying to expand and so I retreated and went to make more units and he came up the ramp when I wasn't paying attention there.

I don't know how to build this multitasking focus that makes me stop doing this. Or I macro fine, until I notice his army moving out, and then I forget to make important units cause I'm too busy setting up my position (this happens more as zerg cause it's forgetting to larva vomit when he's coming for me that's huge). And I feel like I haven't gotten any faster in months (I'm like 80 sc2 apm over a game in a hectic one).

Here's an example (the game I described first) where I feel like speed/multitask holds me back more than anything else (and it was a very passive game at that, he turtles a lot with siege tanks). I mean I know there were a couple forgotten pylons, and my robo was later than I meant and my templar tech was way too late, but mainly once I grew myself that big I had trouble keeping up with everything, my money was high and I didn't control my army at the same time.

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Anyone have any advice on how to improve that? I feel like I've been at basically the same skill in terms of this for a couple months now (my apm has not gone up) although I'm improving based on game knowledge and analysis quite a lot.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
October 22 2010 09:26 GMT
#2
Focus your practice. Play a game or 10 where you are not trying to adapt to your oponent or do some cutesy build, but just raise a massive army; macro perfect (no queue's, no supplyblock) while neglecting micro. After these 10 games, you can go back to normal, but you're macro will cost you less attention.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 22 2010 13:11 GMT
#3
How long did that post take to do? 10 minutes? And I'm guessing you lurk here a lot, too?
10 minutes is a game. If you just focus on playing this will disappear.(consistently)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 13:28:35
October 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#4
On October 22 2010 22:11 OutlaW- wrote:
How long did that post take to do? 10 minutes? And I'm guessing you lurk here a lot, too?
10 minutes is a game. If you just focus on playing this will disappear.(consistently)


If I sit and play more than maybe 5 games in a row I start losing every single game with the worst mental mistakes and it is demoralizing. I'm not cut out to be a progamer I know, but I still want to improve. That happened right after I posted I went on and played two more and lost them to a baneling allin and typical stim marauder pressure cause I mis forcefielded yet again and forgot to turn my gateways into warpgates and was like whyyy can I only make 1 unit? They are still on cooldown?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 22 2010 14:49 GMT
#5
On October 22 2010 22:27 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 22:11 OutlaW- wrote:
How long did that post take to do? 10 minutes? And I'm guessing you lurk here a lot, too?
10 minutes is a game. If you just focus on playing this will disappear.(consistently)


If I sit and play more than maybe 5 games in a row I start losing every single game with the worst mental mistakes and it is demoralizing. I'm not cut out to be a progamer I know, but I still want to improve. That happened right after I posted I went on and played two more and lost them to a baneling allin and typical stim marauder pressure cause I mis forcefielded yet again and forgot to turn my gateways into warpgates and was like whyyy can I only make 1 unit? They are still on cooldown?


Take breaks, after every single game if neede. Stretch, do pushups or w/e and take your eyes off the screen. Just a minute or two then think what you screwed up with and how to improve in next game.
The thing is that you actually can play longer and more focused with these mini breaks than with 5 games straight, it´s even more enjoyable.

Even in shooting sports they lose their focus if they try to aim for too long so they take their eyes off the target for a while.
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