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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 18 2010 01:47 GMT
#1
A very good friend of mine just called me...

She's an old friend from high school who graduated from UCSD with a degree in Psychology and a minor in Philosophy. She was in the same hump as most other recent college graduates, trying to find a job while looking at grad schools.

However...I don't know the details, but it seems like her visa renewal thing didn't go through, and she's going to be moving back to Korea next month indefinitely while she tries some other things and tries to figure stuff out.

This is such bullshit. I'm feeling some Democrat rage, right now, lol.

In all seriousness, though, this whole thing is really stupid. She's lived in the US since she was like eight or so. She's been having issues with her visa for several years now, but it getting to the point where it's better for her to move out of the country for the time being is just stupid. She's contributed more to the US than I have -_-

I don't know. I don't have anything in particular to say, and I don't know much about citizenship and immigration issues, even at an armchair level. I'm just really bummed out one of my best friends is going to be gone for a who knows how long because of it. ):

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darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
October 18 2010 01:49 GMT
#2
You could marry her... Just sayin...
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 18 2010 01:54 GMT
#3
Yea it sucks. The American visa thing is a bitch in general. Luckily, I'm Canadian, so I can always resort back to the easy TN if I need to work in the States.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
October 18 2010 02:00 GMT
#4
I understand her pain

I moved to the US when I was two with my family because my dad was trying to get his phd. Besides going to korea for about less than half a year when I was in third grade I lived in the US for about 12 years. When I finished 7th grade my whole family had to go back to Korea because of Visa issues.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
October 18 2010 02:11 GMT
#5
cant she take that test to become a US citizen? that is, unless she doesnt want to.
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
October 18 2010 02:25 GMT
#6
You can't just take a test, there are requirements. But yea, you can just marry her. Then do whatever later on.
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Itzeddiieee
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 02:27:10
October 18 2010 02:26 GMT
#7
I do believe that she has to leave america because her visa expired, and therefore living in america as an undocumented person. and btw, you did say that she came to america before the age of 15?
It seems like this bill known as the DREAM ACT is her only hope, if what I just wrote is all true
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
October 18 2010 02:26 GMT
#8
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This.

Take a chance on life.
allyourbase
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States243 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 02:36:37
October 18 2010 02:27 GMT
#9
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

it is probably overkill, but it would definitely be the most romantic thing ive read on the internet if you did.

doitdoit. we are rooting for you.

make sure you blog about it

As real advise, she should talk to an immagration lawyer if she hadnt already.
Something something justice
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
October 18 2010 02:49 GMT
#10
On October 18 2010 11:27 allyourbase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

it is probably overkill, but it would definitely be the most romantic thing ive read on the internet if you did.

doitdoit. we are rooting for you.

make sure you blog about it

As real advise, she should talk to an immagration lawyer if she hadnt already.


Yesyesyesyesyesyesyes.

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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 18 2010 02:54 GMT
#11
On October 18 2010 11:26 Mickey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This.

Take a chance on life.

Oh baby, +1 to this. You never know, one day they may make a movie about you guys ;D
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
October 18 2010 03:05 GMT
#12
On October 18 2010 11:54 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 11:26 Mickey wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This.

Take a chance on life.

Oh baby, +1 to this. You never know, one day they may make a movie about you guys ;D


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The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
October 18 2010 03:08 GMT
#13
she lived in the states since she's eight and she doesn't have greencard/citizenship yet?
it's pretty amazing that she lived in this country that long w just____(i don't know what kind of visa she was on)
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
October 18 2010 03:10 GMT
#14
On October 18 2010 11:54 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 11:26 Mickey wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This.

Take a chance on life.

Oh baby, +1 to this. You never know, one day they may make a movie about you guys ;D


I can see it now...."Based on a true story....."
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
October 18 2010 03:11 GMT
#15
marry her

it will be awesome
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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 18 2010 03:14 GMT
#16
Hahaha

On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This was so brilliant.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 18 2010 03:18 GMT
#17
Yeah man, marry her. You guys are old enough anyway!
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MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
October 18 2010 03:23 GMT
#18
Yeah, if she's a good friend, then you can just marry her to keep her in US! Could always divorce afterwards too ;p
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 18 2010 03:23 GMT
#19
On October 18 2010 12:10 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 11:54 Grobyc wrote:
On October 18 2010 11:26 Mickey wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This.

Take a chance on life.

Oh baby, +1 to this. You never know, one day they may make a movie about you guys ;D


I can see it now...."Based on a true story....."


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That does suck though :/
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
October 18 2010 03:24 GMT
#20
On October 18 2010 12:23 MuffinFTW wrote:
Yeah, if she's a good friend, then you can just marry her to keep her in US! Could always divorce afterwards too ;p

I hear that in the US, chances are pretty good for divorce. (57% or something?)
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 03:28:33
October 18 2010 03:24 GMT
#21
It's kindof illegal though... http://marriage.families.com/blog/marrying-for-citizenship

Well... I guess if she is a really really really good friend you could make something work out ;P

Edit: I remember hearing that the interview consists of questions like where is the toilet paper, and lots of other 'trivia' to make sure that you are actually married.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 18 2010 03:35 GMT
#22
That's actually another thing about this...she's in a serious relationship with someone who is a natural citizen afaik...kinda stupid they have to separate 'cause of this :\

This whole visa thing is kind of retarded. I don't know anything about green cards or w/e, so...I can only guess it was never an option?
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Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
October 18 2010 03:37 GMT
#23
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...


This sounds like the best option so far... Just sayin...
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
October 18 2010 03:41 GMT
#24
On October 18 2010 11:54 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 11:26 Mickey wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

This.

Take a chance on life.

Oh baby, +1 to this. You never know, one day they may make a movie about you guys ;D

They already did. It's called "The Proposal" and it came out last year.
Kang Min Fighting!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
October 18 2010 03:47 GMT
#25
On October 18 2010 12:35 PH wrote:
That's actually another thing about this...she's in a serious relationship with someone who is a natural citizen afaik...kinda stupid they have to separate 'cause of this :\

This whole visa thing is kind of retarded. I don't know anything about green cards or w/e, so...I can only guess it was never an option?

Does she have a job?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Cauld
Profile Joined February 2010
United States350 Posts
October 18 2010 03:56 GMT
#26
On October 18 2010 12:24 LSB wrote:
It's kindof illegal though... http://marriage.families.com/blog/marrying-for-citizenship

Well... I guess if she is a really really really good friend you could make something work out ;P

Edit: I remember hearing that the interview consists of questions like where is the toilet paper, and lots of other 'trivia' to make sure that you are actually married.


The interview depends entirely on how much they believe you. If you submit convincing evidence during your application the interview is just a formality. My wife got just about every question wrong including her address and name.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 18 2010 03:59 GMT
#27
On October 18 2010 12:47 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 12:35 PH wrote:
That's actually another thing about this...she's in a serious relationship with someone who is a natural citizen afaik...kinda stupid they have to separate 'cause of this :\

This whole visa thing is kind of retarded. I don't know anything about green cards or w/e, so...I can only guess it was never an option?

Does she have a job?

She had one. They decided not to sign off on her visa, so now she no longer does. Apparently the employer has to like pay for travel expenses for sending someone back to their country if they decide to terminate the employee if they sign off on their visa. She was a new employee fresh out of college so...snip snip.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 18 2010 04:13 GMT
#28
If shes been here as long as you say she could easily try to take the citizenship exam and become a citizen.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
October 18 2010 04:20 GMT
#29
I know some stories like this. It makes me angry. People who live in a country their whole life, get education, are totally integrated in the society, ready to start their lives as young adults have to move back to "their" country from one day to another, where they have nobody and feel like foreigners.

no boarders, no nations!
MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
October 18 2010 04:56 GMT
#30
Sucks, but either you marry her or someone does!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 18 2010 05:03 GMT
#31
On October 18 2010 12:35 PH wrote:
That's actually another thing about this...she's in a serious relationship with someone who is a natural citizen afaik...kinda stupid they have to separate 'cause of this :\

This whole visa thing is kind of retarded. I don't know anything about green cards or w/e, so...I can only guess it was never an option?


wow if i'm in a serious relationship with someone and she's had to move away because of some Visa I'll marry her.
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m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
October 18 2010 05:27 GMT
#32
On October 18 2010 11:27 allyourbase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...

it is probably overkill, but it would definitely be the most romantic thing ive read on the internet if you did.

doitdoit. we are rooting for you.

make sure you blog about it

As real advise, she should talk to an immagration lawyer if she hadnt already.


most romantic? nah - this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/blogitems.php?site=rayzorblade&page=3
it does to blue what blue does to you
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
October 18 2010 05:48 GMT
#33
sounds like the proposal

DOIT
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 06:06:46
October 18 2010 06:00 GMT
#34
hopefully everything will work out whether or not she stays or goes to korea
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
October 18 2010 06:54 GMT
#35
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...


That's exactly what I thought of as soon as I finished reading the OP


The interview depends entirely on how much they believe you. If you submit convincing evidence during your application the interview is just a formality. My wife got just about every question wrong including her address and name.


Do they send someone and check your house as well?

Fake-marriage-into-citizenships is kinda common in China. I was talking to a friend recently and he was telling me that they pay you a good amount. I don't remember the exact number... but it was a good chunk of a year's salary... (like 20-40k?) but you could only do it like once or twice or else you're going to get busted by the gov't.

Also when I was young, I had a uncle who used my family address as a place of residence for him and his 'wife' (he didn't live with us and i've never seen her). The only thing I remember was him rearranging his things in one of the rooms and taking some government official around the house to prove/show the official that he lived there with his 'wife'.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
October 18 2010 07:52 GMT
#36
Since divorce is so common nowadays and the reasons for it are many, why not get married for like a year or two. And then just go and get caught cheating or something. I'm pretty sure the government wouldn't say, "hey! You're not allowed to cheat if ur married to someone from outside the US!"

Or would they?
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Cauld
Profile Joined February 2010
United States350 Posts
October 18 2010 15:13 GMT
#37
On October 18 2010 15:54 crazeman wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2010 10:49 darkponcho wrote:
You could marry her... Just sayin...


That's exactly what I thought of as soon as I finished reading the OP


The interview depends entirely on how much they believe you. If you submit convincing evidence during your application the interview is just a formality. My wife got just about every question wrong including her address and name.


Do they send someone and check your house as well?

Fake-marriage-into-citizenships is kinda common in China. I was talking to a friend recently and he was telling me that they pay you a good amount. I don't remember the exact number... but it was a good chunk of a year's salary... (like 20-40k?) but you could only do it like once or twice or else you're going to get busted by the gov't.

Also when I was young, I had a uncle who used my family address as a place of residence for him and his 'wife' (he didn't live with us and i've never seen her). The only thing I remember was him rearranging his things in one of the rooms and taking some government official around the house to prove/show the official that he lived there with his 'wife'.


They didn't visit my house at all. And you can get married to a foreign person and get them citizenship multiple times. The only burden of proof is that you need to convince them that you got married in good faith. If you do then it works, if you don't then you may have problems.

In my case my wife was given a conditional green card, once she's had it for 2 years she can get a permanent green card. But even if we were to get divorced before those 2 years are up she only has to convince them that when we got married we intended to stay married.
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