• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:05
CET 05:05
KST 13:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival10TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou22Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET11Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO8
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET ASL Runner-Up Race Stats ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival Is there anyway to get a private coach?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help [ASL20] Semifinal A Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Roaring Currents ASL final Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1293 users

Boxer, I'm disappoint - Page 4

Blogs > disciple
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 09 2010 18:57 GMT
#61
The Broodwar scene is all about JaeDong and Flash right now so good move from the old pro gamers to switch to SC 2. Also, I don't think blizzard would have this "conspiracy" of getting the emperor to switch.

One thing I'm certain is that if KesPa removes all his achievements while in SC;BW.. there is hell to pay!

Btw, they're pretty much a very open-minded with the sexiest that is SC 2 right, I think with this old pro gamers coming from the scene, a lot of new strats will be open for us to emulate!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
October 09 2010 19:04 GMT
#62
At first I read this thread title as you being disappointed in Boxer for switching to SC2. I totally don't understand that perspective and I think it's silly if people actually think like that.

But from later posts it seems more like you are disappointed that Boxer is switching to SC2, which seems reasonable to me.

Personally I'm happy to see what he can do in a new game (still hoping he'll switch to Protoss! But SC2 Terran seems better suited to him)
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
October 09 2010 19:12 GMT
#63
I'm not quite sure why anyone would be upset about his move. It means we should hopefully get to see him playing again and the thing is, Brood War is getting really old in terms of years of age now, it's not going to last forever and most games never will when it comes to eSports.

If people want to see the older players from Brood War playing again, the only real way it'll happen is with SC2 I think. I'd rather get to see Boxer play again, rather than never see him play at all.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 09 2010 19:36 GMT
#64
Don't worry too much. BW only became a true e-sports with the Korean government's support and ultimately it's survival will depend on how much support the government is going to give it. We shall just have to wait and see how this all plays out.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
October 09 2010 19:38 GMT
#65
On October 10 2010 03:57 Licmyobelisk wrote:
The Broodwar scene is all about JaeDong and Flash right now so good move from the old pro gamers to switch to SC 2. Also, I don't think blizzard would have this "conspiracy" of getting the emperor to switch.

One thing I'm certain is that if KesPa removes all his achievements while in SC;BW.. there is hell to pay!

Btw, they're pretty much a very open-minded with the sexiest that is SC 2 right, I think with this old pro gamers coming from the scene, a lot of new strats will be open for us to emulate!

kespa makes some weird moves from time to time, but they would never ever do that.

Boxer's days in bw are over. He is a symbol, not a player. I don't care what he does with the rest of his life except I hope he will stay in eSports, since he is a good representative, and luckily he'll do just so.
화이팅
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
October 09 2010 19:40 GMT
#66
Yeah, I'm with JWD here. There shouldn't be any reason to theorize conspiracies. I think anyone can believe that Boxer wants a chance to PLAY again and be that guy on stage holding the trophy, rather than just a coach, watching other players get all the glory, and quietly nurturing the industry (which quite honestly is corrupted to hell by Kespa corporate interests, cheaters (like Savior), and a new guard of god-tier players (Jaedong/Flash).

I don't see how Boxer feels there's anything left for him to do in the BW scene. There are established teams with corporate sponsors, so many leagues and tournies that last year the top players almost had complete meltdowns from exhaustion and overplay. The prize pools for tournies are more than enough to support a pro-gaming career for the best players. There really wasn't anything left in the BW scene for Boxer to do. If you can name something meaningful Boxer still had to accomplish in the BW scene and explain how Boxer actually has a meaningful chance of attaining those accomplishments, I might be more prone to believe the conspiracy theories, but the way I see it is Boxer's moving on because SC2 offers room for growth. BW offers none.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 19:42:19
October 09 2010 19:41 GMT
#67
Imo BW just needs to roll over and die anyways. It will never have the following it once did with SC2 out. If you are someone who is new to the esports scene you aren't going to be drooling over SCBW when there are things like IEM and GSL to watch. Let it die. It's good for SC2 that he is switching.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
October 09 2010 19:53 GMT
#68
On October 10 2010 04:41 Wr3k wrote:
Imo BW just needs to roll over and die anyways. It will never have the following it once did with SC2 out. If you are someone who is new to the esports scene you aren't going to be drooling over SCBW when there are things like IEM and GSL to watch. Let it die. It's good for SC2 that he is switching.

This is downright disrespectful to BW fans who dislike SC2. I'm still not convinced IEM or GSL will foster a long-lasting interest in SC2.

As far as for the post itself, though I feel a bit sad as well due to Boxer leaving BW, he did the right thing as far as his fandom and his personal career go. What is more, he did it right. No leaving the team with a lie that he doesn't want to be a progamer anymore, no retirement lies, just a letter to the community and terminating his contract. I feel happy for him. Unless the MVP thing was a mistranslation though, MVP can suck something cucumber shaped.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
October 09 2010 19:58 GMT
#69
On October 10 2010 04:41 Wr3k wrote:
Imo BW just needs to roll over and die anyways. It will never have the following it once did with SC2 out. If you are someone who is new to the esports scene you aren't going to be drooling over SCBW when there are things like IEM and GSL to watch. Let it die. It's good for SC2 that he is switching.

are you fucking serious? its pretty obvious that sc2 benefits from boxer switching, while broodwar is worse off. a large part of sc2 is currently supported by foreigners, and foreigners imo are very fickle about the games they play. if broodwar "rolls over and dies" then i'm positive its spelling out the end of starcraft. you can just kiss goodbye to your IEM and GSL and whatever other crap there is out there, because war4 will come out, or people will just naturally gravitate away because they're immature and realized that they'll never beat the koreans. dont be so ignorant of whats going on.
boomer hands
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 09 2010 20:25 GMT
#70
One thing for sure is that I hope BW scene doesn't die since I enjoy watching that game
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 20:38:45
October 09 2010 20:35 GMT
#71
As an old gamer myself, I think it is great to see grown ups like Boxer enter the fray.

And even tough I understand that you BW fans are sad to see this transition happen, Incontrol really put it perfectly:

There is a free tournament with tens of thousands of USD up for grabs in their neighborhood, with a scene that is still wide open for new talents.

Why wouldn't these people that don't see much chance to be no1 in BW use this opportunity?
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 09 2010 20:37 GMT
#72
On October 10 2010 04:41 Wr3k wrote:
Imo BW just needs to roll over and die anyways. It will never have the following it once did with SC2 out. If you are someone who is new to the esports scene you aren't going to be drooling over SCBW when there are things like IEM and GSL to watch. Let it die. It's good for SC2 that he is switching.


Can't believe this guy hasn't gotten warned or banned.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
October 09 2010 20:40 GMT
#73
Boxer playing sc2 is better than boxer not playing sc1
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 09 2010 20:53 GMT
#74
*Sigh*

Why don't people understand that Boxer, while legendary, is still just a gamer that wants to be the best in a game? He has no chances of winning or even playing in Broodwar anymore, and just coaching the game has no future or satisfaction for him and his fans.

Stop seeing him as just the emperor and god of starcraft.
I think esports is pretty nice.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 09 2010 20:54 GMT
#75
On October 10 2010 05:37 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 04:41 Wr3k wrote:
Imo BW just needs to roll over and die anyways. It will never have the following it once did with SC2 out. If you are someone who is new to the esports scene you aren't going to be drooling over SCBW when there are things like IEM and GSL to watch. Let it die. It's good for SC2 that he is switching.


Can't believe this guy hasn't gotten warned or banned.

Well he has the same opinion alot of BW players have about SC2, just wanting it to fail, and they post as such, they would have to be all warned or banned for it too.


and did it ever occur to everyone that boxer may care more about his fans and his own enjoyment thann about brood war?
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
October 09 2010 20:55 GMT
#76
Boxer was hardly every playing anymore anyways.
The biggest difference is we'll be seeing him play competitively more, and he'll probably go farther.
It's his choice to make and it's the right one. He wants to be successful at something new.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 09 2010 20:58 GMT
#77
I want to believe relaunched PL will be amazing enough to soothe pain he caused by leaving.
It will be relaunched.

disciple it's hard to write something encouraging enough, something doubt free. I wish I could.
wwww
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
October 09 2010 20:58 GMT
#78
On October 10 2010 01:48 disciple wrote:
The symbol is gone, the captain abandons his own ship.

This is the perfect analogy. It's quite accurate to the current situation.
( ・´ー・`)
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
October 09 2010 21:03 GMT
#79
Boxer enjoys Starcraft 2 a lot and he wants another chance to be on the top. How can you be disappointed with him for that? He has taken the role of an icon for SCBW long enough and the scene will live on without him.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 21:05:21
October 09 2010 21:05 GMT
#80
Boxer has nothing left to contribute to the BW scene, he's been playing it for years and he's never going to be able to overtake the newer generation. If he retired from BW 2 years ago most people wouldn't have noticed.
sc2 is new, fresh, less mechanics, and a chance to see boxer actually compete. You really want Boxer to sit on SKT1 Bench and practice a sc:bw all day? He can do what he wants. Who are you to criticize him?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 251
RuFF_SC2 150
Nina 130
SpeCial 52
StarCraft: Brood War
Icarus 13
Dota 2
XaKoH 515
League of Legends
JimRising 830
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K782
m0e_tv254
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor98
Other Games
summit1g9496
ViBE139
Skadoodle132
Maynarde128
Mew2King75
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick778
BasetradeTV49
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 18
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Mapu98
• Berry_CruncH93
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• practicex 0
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity21
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1121
Other Games
• Scarra1060
• Shiphtur155
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
7h 55m
CrankTV Team League
8h 55m
Streamerzone vs Shopify Rebellion
TBD vs Team Vitality
Monday Night Weeklies
12h 55m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
CrankTV Team League
1d 8h
BASILISK vs TBD
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.