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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 10 2010 15:56 GMT
#141
On October 11 2010 00:55 Nikon wrote:
I feel like Boxer leaving BW will strip him from his legend icon. Sure, he'll be active, showing games to his fans but it just won't be the same. He's late to the party to get the innovator status that he once had, people have been doing all sorts of crazy plays since early beta. You know, Repairion, thor drops, etc.

If anything, Cool has that status, after his GSL win and Boxer will be just another player. If all he wants is airtime, that's OK I guess.Since GomTV has stated that they don't want team-based leagues, however, giving up his comfortable position in SKT1 is questionable at best. He's Boxer, but he's not guaranteed results in the GSL. I doubt sponsors would be willing to shell out quite the same salary he was getting as a BW pro, plus he's maybe closing the opportunity to continue his career as a coach.

I know that people will probably say that it's good to be taking risks, but perhaps this time the risk is too much. We'll have to wait to see what happens in the end.


i'm speechless
why so 진지해?
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 10 2010 16:05 GMT
#142
On October 11 2010 00:56 vnlegend wrote:
Brood war has had its run, nothing will last forever. Now it's time for the much newer, and more exciting SC2 to shine.

The BW scene has gotten to the point where everything is figured out and you can pretty much figure out how a game or a battle will turn out by looking. It's quite predictable at this point. This and the lack of competition vs JD/Flash makes BW even more boring. RIP bw.


I think it's pretty predictable for SC2 too....

I don't think that anyone will argue that SC1 is going to be left dangling with something missing. Obviously the game's evolved to a level that Blizzard didn't even dream was possible.

The only thing that's keeping me from really caring about SC2 is primarily because it's such a boring thing to watch. With spectators, commentators, and tournaments, I feel like the game itself is just really sluggish and roundish which makes it uninteresting to watch, even if you get commentators trying to fire everybody up.

I honestly feel like the best way to view Starcraft 1 OR 2 is just watching streams of people playing it independently with their own style, music, and commentary on the game. Regardless of which one is better at being an actual spectator sport (*cough* BW *cough*), I feel watching personal streams have always been more fun.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 10 2010 16:18 GMT
#143
On October 11 2010 00:56 vnlegend wrote:
Brood war has had its run, nothing will last forever. Now it's time for the much newer, and more exciting SC2 to shine.

The BW scene has gotten to the point where everything is figured out and you can pretty much figure out how a game or a battle will turn out by looking. It's quite predictable at this point. This and the lack of competition vs JD/Flash makes BW even more boring. RIP bw.

what, is it april fool's already?
POGGERS
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 11 2010 02:40 GMT
#144
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cocoa_sg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:21:41
October 13 2010 04:19 GMT
#145
I am surprised that you would not at least embrace Boxer's decision to switch to SC2. It was purely his own intention, to be able to play for his fans again. And while it does make me sad that he is leaving BW, I am very happy at the same time for him; I want to see him play again on TV. Seeing him warm the T1 bench as just a mascot was... sympathetic.

The same also goes for Nada and July, and possibly iloveoov. It would be mean to say that Boxer is killing off BW with his career move; BW still has its core players in Flash and Jaedong, and Stork and others. It is just that Kespa is being too much of an idiot in its negotations, and Blizzard is being too... I don't know how to say it. We as fans would suffer for it.

I am sure Boxer feels the same way about BW. BW has left a legacy for us, you know, and sometimes all good things would have to end (but hopefully not for BW!) As much as I really hate to say this, if the proleague (and starleagues) do not start at all, it may be time to move on.

PS: It would be a nice thing to watch that OSL/MSL finals history video; last time, I thought it was just a celebration of the starleagues' anniversary, but it may be the legacy recap that it actually was, something that we can look back to in history in the distant future. BW was, and always will be, the pinnacle of e-sports, for a long time to come.
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