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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
October 09 2010 17:43 GMT
#41
On October 10 2010 02:37 maareek wrote:
Nobody should ever be forced to be just a symbol. Boxer may be the symbol of BW, but he's also Lim Yo Hwan, a man who has every right to make whatever decision he deems right.

This is basically what I think. He can go become a fly fisherman if he wants, it's his life. Did we have this kind of reaction to Effort retiring?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 09 2010 17:47 GMT
#42
On October 10 2010 02:40 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 02:21 NonFactor wrote:
Haters gonna hate.

Boxer made the best choice for himself - and his fans.

Fans of broodwar are fans of boxer. Can you honestly say that this was the best choice for all his fans?

Do fans really get anything out of Boxer from just watching him sit on the side all year except for a couple of games every year? Are the fans justified in wanting to press down a player and prevent him from carrying out his career in the most lively way just for their symbolic satisfaction?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
October 09 2010 17:49 GMT
#43
On October 10 2010 02:35 JWD wrote:
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On October 10 2010 02:32 corumjhaelen wrote:
What's so hard to understand ? I agree with the op. It is a good choice personnally, but as I dislike sc2 and want bw to live on, I'm disappointed. It will clearly weaken the scene I'm pretty sure we won't see anything amazing from here, as there is nothing to see in sc2. But hey, I'll look his games, Nada's, and maybe will I be proved wrong.

This just seems like an extremely selfish attitude:
1) Boxer is doing the right thing for his career, but
2) "I dislike SC2"
therefore
3) I'm going to blast Boxer for his decision

Show some respect for Boxer's choice. He's always had a gut for doing the right thing for eSports.

You are missing the point. There are plenty of people on here who don't care about esports, they only care about broodwar. Even if this is the right decision for the future of competitive esports, it is still detramental to the only faset of esports we care about. I don't think that Boxer should be tied to BW for the rest of his life, and i can understand his decision. But that dosn't mean that I have to like it. I guess when it comes down to it, you can either be a fan of "boxer the human" or "boxer the BW icon". I was a fan of the latter and, unfortunently, that entity just died.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 09 2010 17:50 GMT
#44
I'm glad that he's made the transition.

Boxer sitting on the SKT1 bench, slowly fading away was not the right thing for him or his fans.

Boxer always deserved to be in the spotlight, to lead the way of e-sports with his carisma, experience and willingness to play for his fans rather than himself.

If this is what makes Boxer happy and that will put the spotlight back on him yet again then I'll be happy for him.
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 09 2010 17:52 GMT
#45
This is a natural step for the emperor on his route to world domination.
How can you be disappoint of something that has been witten in stars millions of years ago ?
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TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
October 09 2010 17:53 GMT
#46
Im a big time BW follower and i totally agree on his move to SC2. He is really doing it for the fans, i mean when you saw boxer play on TV and win his first game in a long time like this:

It created alot of excitement just to see him play again. SC2 will be no different in the sense that after 10 years of Esports, Boxer is still making a name for himself.
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YiukeDukem
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States125 Posts
October 09 2010 17:54 GMT
#47
On October 10 2010 02:37 maareek wrote:
Nobody should ever be forced to be just a symbol. Boxer may be the symbol of BW, but he's also Lim Yo Hwan, a man who has every right to make whatever decision he deems right.



QFT, fuckin' beautiful post.

Long story short, the majority of this topic is just a bunch of people who aren't interested in SC2, which is fine, it's their own personal preference. They can't handle that one of the former allstars is moving on because of his need to remain as a progamer. Would you really say that BoxeR was doing well in PL nowadays? How often did BoxeR play games in the last two years? How often did he win?

If he continued on with Brood War, all he would be is just a placeholder on the SKT1 lineup, a symbol of what greatness he once had. With SC2 comes another chance to be great, look at all of the former progamers who are currently top SC2 players. If he does this, he can really revitalize his career rather than just being on the sidelines.

BoxeR fans, look beyond the fact that you may not like SC2 over BW, but look toward his well being.
BroodWar fans, the game isn't over yet...there are plenty of people just like you in Korea who aren't ready for Proleague to be over yet and I'm sure it won't go down without a fight. But don't be afraid to move on to the next game, toward a next generation.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
October 09 2010 17:59 GMT
#48
On October 10 2010 02:23 disciple wrote:
At least he could've waited for 3 months or smth like that for sc1 to get rolling again. I personally relate him to bw and even if I'm happy there will be more chances for him to be on TV, it was going to make me as a fan of both Boxer and bw more relaxed about the future of my favorite game if he was just there for a couple more months. Now its just like the worst timing possible


If he got a new contract with SKT it would have meant staying with Broodwar at least one more year. Even retiring without switching to SC2 for 3 month would have meant missing at least 1 if not 2 seasons of GSL, hurting his chances of getting into the league that follows GSL.

You're asking him to give up his best and probably last chance to compete at the top level. A sacrifice that would make very little difference in the grand scheme of things. Ultimately if Proleague continues BW lives on, if it doesn't it dies.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
October 09 2010 18:13 GMT
#49
On October 10 2010 02:49 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 02:35 JWD wrote:
On October 10 2010 02:32 corumjhaelen wrote:
What's so hard to understand ? I agree with the op. It is a good choice personnally, but as I dislike sc2 and want bw to live on, I'm disappointed. It will clearly weaken the scene I'm pretty sure we won't see anything amazing from here, as there is nothing to see in sc2. But hey, I'll look his games, Nada's, and maybe will I be proved wrong.

This just seems like an extremely selfish attitude:
1) Boxer is doing the right thing for his career, but
2) "I dislike SC2"
therefore
3) I'm going to blast Boxer for his decision

Show some respect for Boxer's choice. He's always had a gut for doing the right thing for eSports.

You are missing the point. There are plenty of people on here who don't care about esports, they only care about broodwar. Even if this is the right decision for the future of competitive esports, it is still detramental to the only faset of esports we care about. I don't think that Boxer should be tied to BW for the rest of his life, and i can understand his decision. But that dosn't mean that I have to like it. I guess when it comes down to it, you can either be a fan of "boxer the human" or "boxer the BW icon". I was a fan of the latter and, unfortunently, that entity just died.

maybe you should start to care about esports then. this is part of the message boxer's move to sc2.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 09 2010 18:24 GMT
#50
Boxer probably win anything, and he would've probably been better off staying in BW.

Its not just his mechanics that have seriously decayed, but his reaction timing has slowed down by a lot since his prime. At best, he'll only be another TLO, much more shortlived though.
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HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
October 09 2010 18:25 GMT
#51
Well, I do think that the captain should go down with his own ship..., but i guess this is a way for boxer to keep his promise to his fans. However, I wouldn't be surprised if blizzard offered boxer money to switch -_-
Long live BroodWar!
By.Pato
Profile Joined March 2010
Costa Rica52 Posts
October 09 2010 18:26 GMT
#52
ok so I love BW not so sure about sc2 but the thing is I first liked SCBW because of 'SlayerS'_BoxeR, now his bw time is up so I'll cheer for him in sc2 I'm so happy to see him playing again as manofoneway GO BOXER!!!!
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 09 2010 18:26 GMT
#53
On October 10 2010 02:13 Necosarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 01:59 JWD wrote:
I don't get it: you're disappointed that we're going to see Boxer on TV again? That he'll once again have a shot to be a top player? That he can now innovate in his own games, rather than through younger proteges?

If I was a golf fan and Tiger Woods would switch to mini golf I would be disappointed as well. I'm sure he would be awesome at it but It still wouldn't be the same.

Anyway, Boxer and Nada are the only reason I will follow the sc2 scene. Maybe TLO as well.


I hope you realize that is a very poor analogy -_- Actually one of the worst I've ever seen.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 09 2010 18:30 GMT
#54
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 18:41:59
October 09 2010 18:40 GMT
#55
The fact that I prefer BW over SC2, doesnt mean I cant recognize the potential of SC2, its not like I dont care about it, I really think its a worthy sequel. Having that said, everything that will lead to the faster demise of the BW scene is not welcome in my book. Maybe its a good thing in the grand scale of things, but ppl who make generalizing statements that boxer fans should support him with his choice are wrong.
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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
October 09 2010 18:46 GMT
#56
The very notion that you think Boxer would take a bribe just to play SC2 is ridiculous... reads kind of like those 9/11 threads. Boxer is playing SC2 so he can show good games to his fans, as simple as that.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 09 2010 18:49 GMT
#57
Like you said, the BW scene was going to die sooner or later, and there is no point for Boxer to stick with the sinking ship. You think he'd rather be a old-school hasbeen than a pro in a new game? As for me, I just wanna see him play again.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
October 09 2010 18:50 GMT
#58
On October 10 2010 03:46 teamsolid wrote:
The very notion that you think Boxer would take a bribe just to play SC2 is ridiculous... reads kind of like those 9/11 threads. Boxer is playing SC2 so he can show good games to his fans, as simple as that.

yeah, maybe get some new friends along the way and finally win the pokemon league
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
October 09 2010 18:52 GMT
#59
While I love BW more than most here, I'd much rather Boxer go and actually get games in SC2 (even though imo it's an inferior product) rather than just be wheeled out for a game against Yellow every few months. Good luck to him imo.

As long as it doesn't trigger a cascade that kills BW completely. Which would be horrible.
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Tankbusta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States109 Posts
October 09 2010 18:53 GMT
#60
If you're a fan of Boxer, this should at least not bother you. Boxer is not the first issue of the Fantastic Four, to be perfectly preserved in a vacuum-sealed plastic cover so that he can sit nice and neatly on someone's bench, he's a human being and wants to continue fighting for his fans. Boxer effectively does not play Starcraft 1 in the proscene anymore, regardless. If SC2 does not interest you, which is perfectly reasonable, then you can still sit by and enjoy all of Boxer's old accomplishments.

At the very least SC2 gives Boxer some new areas to work in, and a good chance of really showing what he can do, as opposed to doing poorly in every sc1 progame in the future.
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