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On October 04 2010 07:47 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2010 04:46 Cambium wrote:On October 04 2010 04:45 Slaughter wrote: I freaking HATE this test...and I have to take it again after my masters when I apply to PhD programs...Blah =\ Isn't it good for 5 years? It is but I only got like a 1200 something and the profs here say that in my field they basically won't look at your app if you have under 1300 for PhD programs. So need to get it up ><
What kind of program is it.?
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I just finished one set of diagnostic test.
For math, I got 28/28 For verbal, I got 10/30
FUUUUUU
OK back to memorizing words..
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lol the math section of the GRE was the biggest waste of time of my life and to be honest, I probably would have done better on the GRE verbal if I'd taken it the day after I took my SAT's Either way, 800/680/perfect on writing, got into every grad school that I applied to
I spoke with the grad admissions officer at my undergrad department, he basically told me the way that he handles GRE's is that he just throws apps in 1 pile or another, if you get above a certain threshold (he didn't tell me, prolly 500 verbal 700 math) then that's all that matters
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On October 04 2010 08:24 illu wrote:I just finished one set of diagnostic test. For math, I got 28/28 For verbal, I got 10/30 FUUUUUU OK back to memorizing words.. 
Lol, you remind me of myself, just a year ago.
GL!
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On October 04 2010 05:21 Hot_Bid wrote: Doing well on the verbal section of these types of test is really all about how much you read books / newspapers when you were growing up. It's incredibly hard to improve on the non-reading comprehension parts, and studying vocabulary is a huge waste of time. If you need to cram verbal, focus on how to read the passages and extract the key information better, as the questions are very formulaic and you can improve your score greatly if you're just familiar with the material.
You have time. Do a full practice GRE test every day 5 days a week until your test. If you're confident in the math part, instead of the normal breakdown, do 1 section of math and the rest verbal. I realize this is a lot of time, like 4-5 hours a day, but you can do it. Because if you do, and you do it diligently under "true" test conditions (no breaks, simulate real test as much as possible), you're going to destroy this test at the end of the month. It's just a matter of how hard you can push yourself to do practice tests.
If you really care about this, you'll make sacrifices and work. Stop talking or analyzing or figuring out how to do it. Just do the work. Do 20+ full practice tests this month. I guarantee you'll get a good score, or at least much better than you'd expect.
This. I took a ton of practice SAT tests in high school, like >150 so I'm pretty practiced with these kind of questions and they are extremely formulaic. If you haven't taken too many practice tests then do that first because 75% of beating the SAT/GRE isn't knowledge of vocab or math but of recognizing the question. After you have a comfortable grasp with recognizing what kind of questions are asked and how to answer, just memorize words because you're going to need them for verbal. When I studied for the GRE I just sat down and stuided the most used words for 2 weeks and I was able to go 800 quant 720 verbal (92 percentile and 94 percentile respectively).
Edit: x.x I misread your thing. I don't think you can discount the need for verbal since so many questions are straight up analogies/antonyms =/, though its true though that a lot of your ability to do well on the passages depends on familiarity.
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On October 04 2010 04:55 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: yeah this test is retarded. if you are applying to math or engineering programs, though, don't sweat the verbal. I got 580 verbal/760 quant (yes I fucked up the quant) and was accepted to umich masters, georgia tech masters, and brown masters. My friend got 460 verbal / 800 quant and was accepted to stanford's EE phd program.
haha I remember my korean friend being super stressed out b/c he only got 520 on verbal or something (then got into Stanford Physics PHD).
I definitely agree that unless you show that you're a moron via these tests, it won't make or break you. (GMAT / LSAT / MCAT will though)
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On October 04 2010 08:47 KOFgokuon wrote: lol the math section of the GRE was the biggest waste of time of my life and to be honest, I probably would have done better on the GRE verbal if I'd taken it the day after I took my SAT's Either way, 800/680/perfect on writing, got into every grad school that I applied to
I spoke with the grad admissions officer at my undergrad department, he basically told me the way that he handles GRE's is that he just throws apps in 1 pile or another, if you get above a certain threshold (he didn't tell me, prolly 500 verbal 700 math) then that's all that matters
well I imagine your GPA is super high though
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How does GRE equate with SAT usually? I wrecked the SAT (2210 first shot no practice) but I'm a little more concerned with the GRE since I know absolutely nothing about it. Granted I still have some time before its a concern but if it's like the SAT then I really don't think it'll be a big deal.
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On October 04 2010 08:47 KOFgokuon wrote: lol the math section of the GRE was the biggest waste of time of my life and to be honest, I probably would have done better on the GRE verbal if I'd taken it the day after I took my SAT's Either way, 800/680/perfect on writing, got into every grad school that I applied to
I spoke with the grad admissions officer at my undergrad department, he basically told me the way that he handles GRE's is that he just throws apps in 1 pile or another, if you get above a certain threshold (he didn't tell me, prolly 500 verbal 700 math) then that's all that matters
what was your GPA and what programs did you go to ? (Law school if i remember right? or am I thinking of Grinq)
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On October 04 2010 07:53 illu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2010 07:47 Slaughter wrote:On October 04 2010 04:46 Cambium wrote:On October 04 2010 04:45 Slaughter wrote: I freaking HATE this test...and I have to take it again after my masters when I apply to PhD programs...Blah =\ Isn't it good for 5 years? It is but I only got like a 1200 something and the profs here say that in my field they basically won't look at your app if you have under 1300 for PhD programs. So need to get it up >< What kind of program is it.?
Biological anthropology, with an emphasis on human osteology/forensic anthropology and bioarchaeology. Also maybe some paleodemographic stuff.
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Am I the only one who thought this was about Generic Routing Encapsulation?
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On October 04 2010 10:08 Floophead_III wrote: How does GRE equate with SAT usually? I wrecked the SAT (2210 first shot no practice) but I'm a little more concerned with the GRE since I know absolutely nothing about it. Granted I still have some time before its a concern but if it's like the SAT then I really don't think it'll be a big deal.
The SAT has changed a little bit since I took it. I took both old format and new format but remember the old format (only math and verbal) better. I think they took analogies out of the SAT verbal for the new format, but they're still on the GRE verbal. Also, the GRE writing is just 100% you writing your own stuff based on a prompt. But the kind of questions asked on both are very similar in general.
The quantitative is very slightly harder on the GRE and covers a few more high-school level concepts, but it's still easy enough that anybody going to graduate school in a technical area should be getting (just about) everything right, just like for the SAT.
The verbal is much harder on the GRE, mainly because the vocabulary words are even more obscure.
It's mainly the format and length that are different--the GRE is a shorter exam. Most people take the computer version, where the questions get harder or easier based on how well you're doing. As a consequence, you're not allowed to skip questions and return to them, so pacing yourself is slightly harder.
All in all, the GRE is not something to worry about much if you did well on the SAT.
edit: On October 04 2010 08:47 KOFgokuon wrote:I spoke with the grad admissions officer at my undergrad department, he basically told me the way that he handles GRE's is that he just throws apps in 1 pile or another, if you get above a certain threshold (he didn't tell me, prolly 500 verbal 700 math) then that's all that matters I've heard this from multiple sources as well. This GRE threshold sort seems to be common practice.
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On October 04 2010 11:04 R1CH wrote: Am I the only one who thought this was about Generic Routing Encapsulation? .....What?
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if you're applying to a program that is using GRE thresholds, you probably don't want to go there. so many other things are so considerably more important
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On October 04 2010 10:11 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2010 08:47 KOFgokuon wrote: lol the math section of the GRE was the biggest waste of time of my life and to be honest, I probably would have done better on the GRE verbal if I'd taken it the day after I took my SAT's Either way, 800/680/perfect on writing, got into every grad school that I applied to
I spoke with the grad admissions officer at my undergrad department, he basically told me the way that he handles GRE's is that he just throws apps in 1 pile or another, if you get above a certain threshold (he didn't tell me, prolly 500 verbal 700 math) then that's all that matters what was your GPA and what programs did you go to ? (Law school if i remember right? or am I thinking of Grinq)
i bet good money he went to MIT for chemical engineering, or im sure that's very close
also i have to take the GRE next year, this sounds painful
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On October 04 2010 14:48 benjammin wrote: if you're applying to a program that is using GRE thresholds, you probably don't want to go there. so many other things are so considerably more important
Most programs with a very high number of applicants use base gre scores as their initial screening process.
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On October 04 2010 11:04 R1CH wrote: Am I the only one who thought this was about Generic Routing Encapsulation?
Probably yes.
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I really don't think they will care much about your GRE verbal score in a statistics program.
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Honestly, as a non-US citizen I find the GRE General a joke. Okay, I get that the verbal won't matter as I'm applying to maths phds, but the Quant stuff is absurd. I'll have finished a masters in mathematics doing courses in analytic number theory, elliptic curves, algebraic topology etc. and yet they still find it necessary to check that I can do sums and percentages. Cool...
I mean, I get why they do it, and I wouldn't really mind too much except for the fact that I have to pay shitloads to take the test and go travel by train and rent a hotel room for a night in my extremely busy term time just to do it.
I'm not even caring about the verbal section though to be honest. I find it extremely hard to believe that my mathematical merit will be judged by the extent of my vocabulary, so an average score ought to do it.
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