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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2010 05:25 GMT
#1
I've been reading a bit more lately to pass the time and was looking for some suggestions on interesting non-fiction. Two books I enjoyed recently were "The World Without Us" and "Freakonomics".

No subject is too esoteric, I'd be willing to read about anything as long as the presentation is interesting and engaging. Any suggestions?

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zerodahero
Profile Joined December 2009
United States358 Posts
September 19 2010 05:31 GMT
#2
http://www.amazon.com/Wired-War-Robotics-Revolution-Conflict/dp/1594201986

Cool book about the way war is being affected by technological changes.
Headlines
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States482 Posts
September 19 2010 05:32 GMT
#3
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Amazon link

The art of seducing women. Actually picked this book up after someone else had mentioned it in the "2010 - What are you reading?" topic.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2010 05:37 GMT
#4
On September 19 2010 14:32 Headlines wrote:
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Amazon link

The art of seducing women. Actually picked this book up after someone else had mentioned it in the "2010 - What are you reading?" topic.


seducing women is on the bottom of the list of things i find interesting or desirable
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 19 2010 05:38 GMT
#5
if you're looking to pass the time, then why not some great fiction? and by fiction I mean epic fantasy.. I would highly recommend A Song of Ice and Fire (soon to become an HBO series) and The First Law series
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Smoothie
Profile Joined July 2010
18 Posts
September 19 2010 05:40 GMT
#6
outliers -malcolm gladwell
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2010 05:45 GMT
#7
On September 19 2010 14:38 Zelniq wrote:
if you're looking to pass the time, then why not some great fiction? and by fiction I mean epic fantasy.. I would highly recommend A Song of Ice and Fire (soon to become an HBO series) and The First Law series


i just picked up a game of thrones actually
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 19 2010 05:48 GMT
#8
On September 19 2010 14:32 Headlines wrote:
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In another note, is freakonomics good? I see that title everywhere.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2010 05:50 GMT
#9
On September 19 2010 14:48 konadora wrote:
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In another note, is freakonomics good? I see that title everywhere.


yeah, it was really interesting and is a surprisingly light read
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 19 2010 06:39 GMT
#10
what is it about? a brief summary please?
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2010 06:42 GMT
#11
On September 19 2010 15:39 konadora wrote:
what is it about? a brief summary please?

economics applied to interesting real world situations in ways that are creative

i.e using economics to explain an issue like "why drug dealers still live with their moms"

very easy to read, you don't need to know shit about econ really
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 19 2010 06:43 GMT
#12
lol wow, i just happened to take economics this year

guess i'll buy it tmr heh, thanks!
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 19 2010 06:55 GMT
#13
If you liked Freakonomics you should read Malcom Gladwell's other books which are 100x better. Blink, The Tipping Point, Outliers, etc. Blink is by far the best one, it's about the power of intuition and snap decisions.

The Game is also a really good read, even if you don't like picking up women. It's a really interesting sociological field study and it's not a guide to picking up women. He tells you what he's doing but doesn't encourage you to do it in any way. That's honestly one of the best books I've read as far as non-fiction goes.

Freakonomics was like a pop song. Yeah, it was catchy, but it wasn't worth rereading. His other books are.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 19 2010 06:56 GMT
#14
Blink sounds interesting, will check it out too!
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 19 2010 07:12 GMT
#15
On September 19 2010 15:55 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
If you liked Freakonomics you should read Malcom Gladwell's other books which are 100x better. Blink, The Tipping Point, Outliers, etc. Blink is by far the best one, it's about the power of intuition and snap decisions.

The Game is also a really good read, even if you don't like picking up women. It's a really interesting sociological field study and it's not a guide to picking up women. He tells you what he's doing but doesn't encourage you to do it in any way. That's honestly one of the best books I've read as far as non-fiction goes.

Freakonomics was like a pop song. Yeah, it was catchy, but it wasn't worth rereading. His other books are.

Malcolm Gladwell didn't write Freakonomics
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Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 07:37:47
September 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#16
Godel, Escher, Bach - Douglas Hofstadter

What is it? It's hard to say. I'm halfway through and I can't place it. Every other chapter is a dialogue between Achilles and his pal the Tortoise, as well as their acquaintances, which is used to introduce topics in the proceeding chapter. The topics include Godel's incompleteness theorem, Escher's art and Bach's music of course, but also Zen Buddhism, hierarchies of meaning, computers, and artificial intelligence. It doesn't presuppose any kind of expertise in any of these, and each is explained and discussed brilliantly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel,_Escher,_Bach

-e- thinking over my description, I haven't done it any justice. Just fucking read it
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 19 2010 08:13 GMT
#17
On September 19 2010 16:37 Kwidowmaker wrote:
Godel, Escher, Bach - Douglas Hofstadter

What is it? It's hard to say. I'm halfway through and I can't place it. Every other chapter is a dialogue between Achilles and his pal the Tortoise, as well as their acquaintances, which is used to introduce topics in the proceeding chapter. The topics include Godel's incompleteness theorem, Escher's art and Bach's music of course, but also Zen Buddhism, hierarchies of meaning, computers, and artificial intelligence. It doesn't presuppose any kind of expertise in any of these, and each is explained and discussed brilliantly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel,_Escher,_Bach

-e- thinking over my description, I haven't done it any justice. Just fucking read it


That sounds really interesting. I might buy it if I can't find it in a library.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 19 2010 08:53 GMT
#18
Check out stuff like Guns, Germs and Steel, The World is Flat, or some essay collections (like Klosterman's Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 19 2010 10:26 GMT
#19
Just bought "Blink" and started on first chapter, real interesting read so far!
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HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 13:45:41
September 19 2010 13:45 GMT
#20
I would like to second the recommendation of "Godel, Escher, Bach".

Don't know if you are interested in US History, but I just read James McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom". It is supposed to be the best one volume history of the Civil War. Its the first history book I've read since school, where I didn't have mush interest in the subject, and I found it really fascinating.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 14:54:38
September 19 2010 14:54 GMT
#21
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is the greatest nonfiction I've ever read.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
September 19 2010 16:14 GMT
#22
I highly recommend "Phantoms in the Brain" by V.S Ramchandran. Great Neurology/Neuroscience book that covers a breadth of cases and topics, really good read.

I would also recommend "Predictably Irrational" by Dan Ariely and "A short History of Nearly Anything".

I did not enjoy freakonomics much, I found it to be a fun read of cherry picked interesting anecdotes, but it was too cherry picked to fit their own arguments for my taste. Malcom Gladwell's books are in the same vein, very simple basic argument with a bunch of cherry picked interesting anecdotes, if you liked Freakonomics you'll probably like Gladwell who's books are better.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 16:20:37
September 19 2010 16:20 GMT
#23
I share really similar sentiments about Freakenomics Samachking. That book was so enticing: the cover image and the half dozen wacky comparisons on the back sleeve, everything I'd heard about it from friends. I just wish I'd known that the entire book was basically explaining that handful of comparisons. That book never really said anything to me besides "lots of things that are not at all similar have similar math behind them."
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4010 Posts
September 19 2010 16:21 GMT
#24
I very much enjoyed Blink, but felt it to be a little weaker than The Tipping Point Gladwell is solid, but I often wonder about the research that goes into his books. The results are so often entirely sensational that... I'm not sure, I feel a critical eye is required.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 20 2010 00:32 GMT
#25
Oh shit, I've been meaning to read Guns, Germs, And Steel ever since I watched the documentary. Thanks for reminding me.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 00:39:56
September 20 2010 00:38 GMT
#26
Obviously you should read Superfreakonomics since you've read Freakonomics.

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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11076 Posts
September 20 2010 01:49 GMT
#27
Qualification: Super freakonomics is not quite as compelling as Freakonomics and it begins to stray from Levitt's field of research/ some of the methodology has received some criticism.

I highly recommend Gang Leader For a Day. I found it very interesting and the style is eminently readable. It was the source of the data for Levitt's major gang papers, which won him so much acclaim.

I quite enjoyed Liar's poker too.

Econ wise; Predictably irrational is a decent borrow. Actually, Dan Ariely's TED talks are well worth listening to in lieu of reading the book.

I'm not too big a fan of the other behavior econ books out. Nudge was alright for an econ major, but not the most entertaining work. The same goes for Animal spirits. Decent reads, but I wouldn't go running to the library to grab them.
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 03:41:53
September 20 2010 03:38 GMT
#28
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This. This. This. Quite possibly the most amazing book I've ever read. I fall more in love with Benoit Mandelbrot with every page. Not only is he a fantastic writer, he is a brilliant mathematician; quite possibly the most important mathematician of the 20th century. He's nearing his end and I fear for his life's work, fractal geometry, not knowing if someone could take his place in developing it more and trying to get it known.

If you do get this book, watch this documentary, The Colours of Infinity, as it explains fractal geometry and even features him in it.

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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
September 20 2010 05:23 GMT
#29
I second Gladwell's stuff interesting topics and a good storyteller. I find I try out a lot of books based off good TED talks haha. "Godel, Escher, Bach" sounds interesting, I need to check that out.

For something a bit different I'll recommend: "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art" by Scott McCloud. It's a surprisingly detailed look at the medium, while being very easy to read and done in a comic format(only time I've seen this work effectively).




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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 20 2010 06:18 GMT
#30
On September 20 2010 12:38 rushz0rz wrote:
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This. This. This. Quite possibly the most amazing book I've ever read. I fall more in love with Benoit Mandelbrot with every page. Not only is he a fantastic writer, he is a brilliant mathematician; quite possibly the most important mathematician of the 20th century. He's nearing his end and I fear for his life's work, fractal geometry, not knowing if someone could take his place in developing it more and trying to get it known.

If you do get this book, watch this documentary, The Colours of Infinity, as it explains fractal geometry and even features him in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB8m85p7GsU


Do you think I'd be able to follow it despite knowing nearly nothing about mathematics?
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
September 20 2010 20:52 GMT
#31
On September 20 2010 15:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On September 20 2010 12:38 rushz0rz wrote:
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This. This. This. Quite possibly the most amazing book I've ever read. I fall more in love with Benoit Mandelbrot with every page. Not only is he a fantastic writer, he is a brilliant mathematician; quite possibly the most important mathematician of the 20th century. He's nearing his end and I fear for his life's work, fractal geometry, not knowing if someone could take his place in developing it more and trying to get it known.

If you do get this book, watch this documentary, The Colours of Infinity, as it explains fractal geometry and even features him in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB8m85p7GsU


Do you think I'd be able to follow it despite knowing nearly nothing about mathematics?


Somewhat yes. He always explains every mathematical concept he talks about. To me, it's the finance jargon and in-depth market analysis that goes over my head, but you can always understand the idea he's trying to convey, even if it takes a few readings.
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jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 21:25:53
September 20 2010 21:23 GMT
#32
I feel like The Game would be an essential part of the syllabus to any Douchebag Studies course.

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The last two pitch a theory more than the first two; even if you disagree with them, they're very eloquently worded, with fascinating evidence for their claims, and propose questions that you should and probably will think about once you've finished (if you aren't thinking of them already).

Cocaine: An Unauthorized Biography is probably the weakest of the four because the author has a really bad sense of humour - like, one of the first things he says in the book is that some people think of cocaine as a scourge of the earth that should never have existed "like boy bands" - but it's incredibly interesting otherwise. He's a lot more sympathetic when he goes to Columbia and Bolivia and Peru, and his editorializing flows effortlessly from what he presents you with.

The Periodic Table is Primo Levi's attempt to tie chemistry into all aspects of his life, especially World War II (he was an Italian Jew who attained his diploma with World War II on the horizon and he lived through Auschwitz). Breaks a lot of rules with standard memoir form; the "Phosphorous" chapter is incredibly touching.
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drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
September 20 2010 22:07 GMT
#33
I really didn't like super freakenomics, although I did enjoy freakenomics. The sequel seemed so forced, the usual sequel problem.
If you want an interesting (not that I necessarily agree with) history of the US I advise reading books either by Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn (Chomsky's the better of the 2 imo) which are VERY good reads and don't require a historical background. If you want something in a slightly different vein I would recommend A Drifting Life, which is an auto-biographical manga of the famous manga author Yoshihiro Tatsumi (http://www.amazon.com/Drifting-Life-Yoshihiro-Tatsumi/dp/1897299745). It's quite long, but a great read, and doesn't require interest in the whole manga/anime scene.
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
September 20 2010 23:05 GMT
#34
I recently read (ok, listened to) Paul Krugman's The Return of Depression Economics. good read if you are interested in macroeconomics and the behavior of the US federal reserve (and central banks generally)
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fatduck
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 04:38:24
September 21 2010 04:36 GMT
#35
If you're looking for something to read about the recent global economic meltdown, I highly recommend: Diary of a Very Bad Year: Confessions of an Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager

If you're into philosophy you should absolutely absolutely read The Archaeology of Knowledge. Just do it.

I also highly recommend The Trials of Henry Kissinger, I prefer the documentary over the book, both are good.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 06:28:07
September 21 2010 06:26 GMT
#36
OuOuOu. I'm a history major so I have a couple of hopefully worthy suggestions.

- Social Murder by Chernomas and Hudson is highly readable and avoids a lot of overtly academic jargon that bogs down a lot of books in its genre. (Link)

- Inside the Jihad by Omar Nasiri is also great, talks about a french spy (of muslim birth) who infiltrated a taliban training camp, one of the first to do so if I remember correctly. (Link)

- Trail of the Fox by David Irving is probably one of my all time favorite history books detailing the conquests of Wehrmacht general Erwin Rommel. I read it when I was quite young so it definitely has readability and awesome pictures to boot. (Link)

- Vengeance by George Jonas puts James Bond to shame and is actually a really intense book and would definitely have the widest appeal to non history buffs. Any sort of awful politics aside, you can appreciate the book for its sheer intensity. (Link)

Edit: oh and I almost forgot, Noam Chomsky always has something good to say.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 21 2010 09:57 GMT
#37
On September 19 2010 16:12 BroOd wrote:
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On September 19 2010 15:55 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
If you liked Freakonomics you should read Malcom Gladwell's other books which are 100x better. Blink, The Tipping Point, Outliers, etc. Blink is by far the best one, it's about the power of intuition and snap decisions.

The Game is also a really good read, even if you don't like picking up women. It's a really interesting sociological field study and it's not a guide to picking up women. He tells you what he's doing but doesn't encourage you to do it in any way. That's honestly one of the best books I've read as far as non-fiction goes.

Freakonomics was like a pop song. Yeah, it was catchy, but it wasn't worth rereading. His other books are.

Malcolm Gladwell didn't write Freakonomics

You're right, for some reason I thought he did. I guess he just endorsed it?
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jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 21:22:59
September 21 2010 21:21 GMT
#38
On September 21 2010 15:26 Glaven wrote:
- Trail of the Fox by David Irving is probably one of my all time favorite history books detailing the conquests of Wehrmacht general Erwin Rommel. I read it when I was quite young so it definitely has readability and awesome pictures to boot. (Link)


What are your thoughts on Irving's supposed neo-Nazism? I haven't read the guy so I'm in no position to speculate whether it impacts his historical analysis, although the case against him seems pretty damning (q.v. "The Strange Case of David Irving" by Christopher Hitchens, an even-handed treatment that caught Hitchens a lot of negative flack, in Love, Poverty, and War and available here).
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Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
September 21 2010 22:04 GMT
#39
On September 22 2010 06:21 jon arbuckle wrote:
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On September 21 2010 15:26 Glaven wrote:
- Trail of the Fox by David Irving is probably one of my all time favorite history books detailing the conquests of Wehrmacht general Erwin Rommel. I read it when I was quite young so it definitely has readability and awesome pictures to boot. (Link)


What are your thoughts on Irving's supposed neo-Nazism? I haven't read the guy so I'm in no position to speculate whether it impacts his historical analysis, although the case against him seems pretty damning (q.v. "The Strange Case of David Irving" by Christopher Hitchens, an even-handed treatment that caught Hitchens a lot of negative flack, in Love, Poverty, and War and available here).


Actually to my immense embarrassment I never realized the connection until just now. As I said, I read it when I was quite young and this suggestion was done entirely from memory. Doubly embarrassing due to the fact that my focus is contemporary history >.>... I should drop out now. That being said I've been to lectures regarding Historical "Truth" and Revisionism which dealt a lot with Irving and I think it's clear that his criticisms go beyond questioning factual evidence regarding the Third Reich's atrocities. Even though it seems to be a trend to arbitrarily label anti-zionist intellectuals as having "nazi sympathies", David Irving's past and some of his works definitely indicate that this is the case. Trail of the fox is a biography and it casts a sympathetic eye on Rommel, as I think it should (he was loosely associated with the plot to kill Hitler and was first and foremost a Wehrmacht man, not a party one). Now that you've reminded me (thanks by the way), I guess I retract my recommendation haha. Though, Rommel is an absolutely fascinating historical personality and you should definitely pick up some literature about him.
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