• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:22
CEST 16:22
KST 23:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !15Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2022 users

Argh, stick me back in platinum :|

Blogs > Mortis
Post a Reply
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
September 06 2010 21:50 GMT
#1
So far, my tenure in Diamond has been hell. I just seem too squeak out cheap wins and I feel like shit doing so. My only win came on desert oasis when I void rayed some poor guy :|.

It sucks, because while in platinum, I was beating platinum and diamond players consistently. Now, wins are becoming more and more scarce. As much as I like the shiny, blue like the sea diamond, I don't like the red, bloody mess that has over taken my match history. Whether I spawn as zerg, protoss, or terran (yes, even terran. go ahead and laugh :/ ) I am just getting out played and just not pushing at the right times.

Maybe my army composition is sucking? Maybe it's my timing? Maybe I'm not scouting enough. Maybe it's a little of all of the above. Either way, as much as I hate to use an internet meme, feels bad, man.

Anyways, sorry for the bitching rant. Who else can I go to and say "Man, I blow chunks at starcraft" without being looked at funny? As always, thanks for reading and sorry again.

*
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 06 2010 22:20 GMT
#2
Read strategy guides, watch your replays, and practice...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 22:21:59
September 06 2010 22:20 GMT
#3
On September 07 2010 06:50 Mortis wrote:
Maybe my army composition is sucking? Maybe it's my timing? Maybe I'm not scouting enough. Maybe it's a little of all of the above.

99% sure it is your macro that is not up to par. Mechanics alone will get you into high diamond.
:)
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
September 06 2010 22:22 GMT
#4
It's not so much your league, as much as who you're playing. The people you get placed against aren't always equal as you. If you resistantly beat people around you, they'll play you against higher people until you cannot win anymore. That becomes the upper limit, and from there they'll keep moving down until they find the right spot for you.

Don't worry though, takes these games as a chance to get better! You may find you're better, despite losing!
JF dodger since 2009
Asdkmoga
Profile Joined May 2010
United States496 Posts
September 06 2010 22:23 GMT
#5
if your in diamond its only because u already have a 50% win ratio against diamond players, so i dont think its that.
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action and over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some shit."
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
September 06 2010 22:41 GMT
#6
Thanks for the replies guys ^^; You're too kind. I suppose it could just been one of those weeks. I've even managed to snag a few decent diamond players to practice against. Those games haven't been going hot either, heh. It's just so discouraging sitting at almost the complete bottom of my division after sitting in top 10 all the way from beta when I was in copper and worked my way up to here now. I literally have a notepad with me now when I watch replays. How much of a fucking dork am I? XD Oh well.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
September 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#7
Just try not to feel disheartened when you loose. Remember you are playing not to get wins, but to get better Keep on playing!
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
September 06 2010 23:06 GMT
#8
Thanks, you guys are the best. You all gave me the pick me up I needed to get back at it. Here I go ^^;
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 23:27:52
September 06 2010 23:26 GMT
#9
On September 07 2010 07:20 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 06:50 Mortis wrote:
Maybe my army composition is sucking? Maybe it's my timing? Maybe I'm not scouting enough. Maybe it's a little of all of the above.

99% sure it is your macro that is not up to par. Mechanics alone will get you into high diamond.

Completely disagree. The macro skill differential has been drastically decreased by sc2's easier mechanics and the high damage output of many units makes composition, unit placement and micro very important. As a zerg, I lose games I have a macro lead in if I miss-micro or attack in the wrong place, and I win games I have a macro deficit in if I make the right units and flank/spread well. Maybe what you say is more true for Protoss and Terran, but a single engagement error can end a lot of games for zerg.
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
September 06 2010 23:52 GMT
#10
On September 07 2010 08:26 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 07:20 synapse wrote:
On September 07 2010 06:50 Mortis wrote:
Maybe my army composition is sucking? Maybe it's my timing? Maybe I'm not scouting enough. Maybe it's a little of all of the above.

99% sure it is your macro that is not up to par. Mechanics alone will get you into high diamond.

Completely disagree. The macro skill differential has been drastically decreased by sc2's easier mechanics and the high damage output of many units makes composition, unit placement and micro very important. As a zerg, I lose games I have a macro lead in if I miss-micro or attack in the wrong place, and I win games I have a macro deficit in if I make the right units and flank/spread well. Maybe what you say is more true for Protoss and Terran, but a single engagement error can end a lot of games for zerg.

Just happened to me as zerg against a turtling terran. I just couldn't seal the deal.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#87
IntoTheiNu 1276
WardiTV1195
OGKoka 503
Rex132
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 782
OGKoka 503
Rex 132
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10877
Bisu 2970
Horang2 1827
Jaedong 1424
EffOrt 629
BeSt 535
Mini 502
ggaemo 482
Soulkey 456
Light 339
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 300
firebathero 275
Snow 189
Rush 167
Pusan 125
Hyun 114
Mong 95
Sharp 73
hero 72
Zeus 70
Aegong 69
Backho 58
Sea.KH 58
Sexy 52
scan(afreeca) 51
ToSsGirL 51
[sc1f]eonzerg 48
sorry 41
Barracks 38
Movie 25
910 24
soO 18
GoRush 17
Rock 15
Sacsri 10
zelot 10
Noble 9
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
syndereN404
Counter-Strike
zeus1082
byalli509
allub315
edward96
Other Games
singsing2814
B2W.Neo1361
hiko757
Lowko386
crisheroes281
Hui .256
Pyrionflax215
monkeys_forever101
ArmadaUGS33
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1650
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1484
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 5
• HerbMon 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis5353
Other Games
• WagamamaTV363
• Shiphtur23
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 38m
Replay Cast
9h 38m
The PondCast
19h 38m
Kung Fu Cup
20h 38m
GSL
1d 19h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.