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I am a casual gamer.

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Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
August 29 2010 19:06 GMT
#1
Hello, my name is Symmetry, and I am a casual gaming enthusiast. I play games from a wide variety of genres, from FPS to RTS and everywhere in between. I play games to waste a bit of time and have fun. And guess what?

I LIKE STARCRAFT 2.

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I also like nukes.


So shoot me now.

I am 11-8 in a platinum division with a score of 189. And I know what you're thinking:

"This guy is a noob! Let's not listen!"

Alright, how about this: I've been playing StarCraft and Brood War since the age of 6 (all the way back to 1998). That's probably longer than some of you have LIVED.

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Pic entirely unrelated.


I have been throughout my SC career an avid mapper, modder and player. I've made melee maps, UMS maps, mods and so much unreleased content that it could fill the vacuum of space.

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That's a lot of stuff.


I joined TL.net in June 2009, and had been lurking for a long time since then. I'm a member on so many different fansites that I am sure to have forgotten some. I have moderated StarCraft forums. I have managed tutorial databases. Map databases. Mod databases. I've done it all. I've watched progamers rise and fall, I've been through all the trials and tribulations of being a pro-SC fan. I may have never breached D on iccup (though I think I did on pgtour? My memory is awful) but I'm just as dedicated as any other player. I've been in the StarCraft community for most of my life, and I'm sure as hell not about to leave.

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OK, maybe not that dedicated.


So what's all the hate towards casual gamers? Every second post seems to be "Casual gamers are destroying gaming" or "Blizzard focused on casual gamers too much and the game sucks for hardcore players". But there's one thing you seem to be forgetting.

Casual players are people too.

We have feelings, we have emotions, we enjoy playing a good game once in a while. We also happen to be ~99% of the gaming market. So stop. Stop treating casual gamers like some kind of lower form of people. Stop with the discrimination on the basis that you're an elitist prick.

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These guys always stole the chicks in high school


I have dedicated just as much (if not more) of my life to StarCraft than most of the people here. Yet I continue to see myself discriminated against because my build orders aren't perfectly tight, or my micro isn't flawless.

Fuck all that. I just want to play a game that's fun. And to be honest, I'm having a lot of fun playing StarCraft 2. And that's all that really matters.

With a bit of tweaking, I can see SC2 being a better game than BW. I don't care what everyone's saying. With a good engine, a powerful editor and a game that is FUN TO PLAY on its own, Blizzard is doing something right in my eyes. The casual gamer (me) is enjoying the game. The casual gamer doesn't want to see MBS removed, or automining taken out. The casual gamer wants what he's got - a quality game with a fantastic community.

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Is the guy on the right... hitting a bong?


I am a casual gamer and I love you, TL. Please, please, please love me back?

**
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 29 2010 19:11 GMT
#2
With a bit of tweaking, I can see SC2 being a better game than BW. I don't care what everyone's saying.


Can't return the love D:
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 29 2010 19:12 GMT
#3
No one (sensible) is hating on casual gamers in TL net.

Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
August 29 2010 19:30 GMT
#4
i dont think the "hardcore" players are actually mad that casual players are the target audience of sc2/blizzard. personally, i'm just annoyed that the actually competitive foreign community has actually been kind of split just because some people wanted to be more renowned.

sc2 is fun to play. its a good game. just not good enough to make me switch.
boomer hands
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
August 29 2010 19:36 GMT
#5
With a bit of tweaking, I can see SC2 being a better game than BW.

From a casual gaming perspective I agree with you. Competitively, not a chance in hell. It's going to take more a "bit of tweaking" to develop into a better game than BW competitively.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 29 2010 19:41 GMT
#6
Yeah i play SC2 casually and BW competitively basically. Im high competitive in general so if i lose a match I RAGGGGGGEEEEEE AND YELL FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
August 29 2010 19:41 GMT
#7
<3 ^^v

I have no problems with you, Symmetry.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 29 2010 20:21 GMT
#8
On August 30 2010 04:12 Jakalo wrote:
No one (sensible) is hating on casual gamers in TL net.


There are a lot of people who lack sense then.

Actually, I don't think that it's actually that people hate casual gamers. It seems like people have something that they don't like, but they refuse to think about it at all so they just jump on the hardcore/casual bandwagon. It's a lot harder to make a good point than it is to blame everything on casuals.
hoborg
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States430 Posts
August 29 2010 20:37 GMT
#9
All games are casual. We are all casual gamers.

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Unless you're a progamer


I hate the term 'casual' because people use it to throw the same connotation onto many different types of people. Someone's mom who plays puzzle games? Someone who cares more about visuals/story than challenge? Console gamers? Someone who likes to play all sorts of games but dosen't strive to be the best in any of them?

When someone says 'Casual gamers are ____' they are just automatically wrong because they described 99.9% of people. Use a more descriptive term.
blbl | CJ and ACE fighting!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 29 2010 20:47 GMT
#10
NO

TL IS FOR ELITISTS ONLY how did you even get past the registration captcha?!?!
The PWNion
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada39 Posts
August 29 2010 20:50 GMT
#11
Uhh im better than you but good for you for "liking" sc2. lol. keep it up. Tl.net is all about sc love? so uhh your blog is masturbation. lol.
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PhuxPro
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States294 Posts
August 29 2010 21:03 GMT
#12

I have dedicated just as much (if not more) of my life to StarCraft than most of the people here.


Doesn't that mean you're not a casual player?
Money was meant solely to be spent.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
August 29 2010 21:09 GMT
#13
I think the main game is much better for casual gamers, but bnet2 is ridiculously horrible, especially with the lack of channels and sensible custom game system.
No I'm never serious.
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 22:29:05
August 29 2010 22:28 GMT
#14
You're not a casual gamer lol.

Casual gamers are the people who have never played an RTS before Starcraft II, who are bronze 1v1 or havent even tried it, but can be silver and up in team game modes. They think Void Rays are overpowered and that balance considerations should be made for their level of play-- which they shouldn't be, except at the basic idea that a strategy shouldnt be INCREDIBLY easy to do and INCREDIBLY hard to defend.

I don't mind these people. They just sometimes need to be told to STFU on the SCII forums. They think its WoW and that enough whining will get Zerg an alternative way to cast Bloodlust because its not fair that only one class has bloodlust.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 29 2010 22:38 GMT
#15
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 29 2010 22:59 GMT
#16
I smell bullshit.
Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
August 29 2010 23:21 GMT
#17
A casual gamer is just someone who likes to play for fun casually he can play as much as he wants but his main goal is to have fun and enjoy it.
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
SageFantasma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
August 29 2010 23:51 GMT
#18
On August 30 2010 07:28 Ndugu wrote:
You're not a casual gamer lol.

Casual gamers are the people who have never played an RTS before Starcraft II, who are bronze 1v1 or havent even tried it, but can be silver and up in team game modes. They think Void Rays are overpowered and that balance considerations should be made for their level of play-- which they shouldn't be, except at the basic idea that a strategy shouldnt be INCREDIBLY easy to do and INCREDIBLY hard to defend.

I don't mind these people. They just sometimes need to be told to STFU on the SCII forums. They think its WoW and that enough whining will get Zerg an alternative way to cast Bloodlust because its not fair that only one class has bloodlust.


You're describing newbies, not casual players. Casual players don't play for the competition, they play for fun. You can play video-games in general, or a specific video-game for years and still be considered a casual player. Casual players can be Diamond level, but they don't strive for that #1 position in their division.

Starcraft 2 "Casual" difficulty doesn't translate into casual gamer. Sorry.
Galois
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
August 30 2010 00:09 GMT
#19
that bw picture of the ovelrods made my lol so fucking hard that i saved it to my desktop and had to step away from the computer just to calm down
It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you / There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do
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