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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
August 28 2010 21:15 GMT
#1
There has been a lot of talk about SC2's graphics, the confusion of RTS in general for the public, and even the lack of micro skills for enjoyment of the crowd.

I cannot remember back to back tournaments where I enjoyed the games as much as I have the IEM and MLG tournaments. We haven't even started viewing GSL, either.

How does everyone feel about the games we've been witnessing in the first month of SC2? I've enjoyed so many different games and been on the edge of my seat in so many matches that it really is surprising to me. I did not expect to get much enjoyment out of watching early on in SC2.

I'm surprised every time a zerg manages to hold off reaper harass. I'm ecstatic every time a terran ball vanishes under storms or lasers. I'm worried when void rays or banshees are approaching the bases of my favorite players. I gasp every time a baneling ball collapses an enemy army.

I don't know how Blizzard manages to do it, but I couldn't be happier with SC2 so far. It feels like heresy to say it, but Jaedong v Flash wasn't as exciting as watching Dimaga or Socke.

I'm unimaginably impressed, and I wonder how you all feel?

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alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
August 28 2010 21:19 GMT
#2
I think it's impressive. I can't really say much else. The momentum is there, it's all about sharing your excitement with other's now, and ofc contributing what you can if you can.
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 28 2010 21:20 GMT
#3
Pales in comparison to the games I've seen in the higher stages of the MSL and OSL but they're good I guess. The lack of micro thingy still makes it less enjoyable for me
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 28 2010 21:21 GMT
#4
You hear a lot of "SC2 lacks those really exciting moments (like mines in BW). I have one thing to say to that.

Banelings. Holy shit.

Whenever I see banelings running at a pack of workers I'm like "HOLY SHIT WILL HE GET THEM?!?!"
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 21:21 GMT
#5
On August 29 2010 06:20 SubtleArt wrote:
Pales in comparison to the games I've seen in the higher stages of the MSL and OSL but they're good I guess. The lack of micro thingy still makes it less enjoyable for me

Check out some of the PvPs from MLG Raleigh. Plenty of micro exists and plenty is yet to be discovered in SC2.
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
August 28 2010 21:25 GMT
#6
Yeah I definitely found that Dimagas ZvT at IEM was super exciting to watch, It was insane!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 28 2010 21:25 GMT
#7
Well tbh ive tried to watch SC2 games when im bored but im not really excited what im seeing.

BW is still way too superior .
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qoiN
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden576 Posts
August 28 2010 21:28 GMT
#8
SC2 is way superior to BW imo, I enjoy it a lot.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12053 Posts
August 28 2010 21:32 GMT
#9
I think SC2 lacks the random factors from a spectator view. You almost always know how something will turn out once the lines are joined, not like the old high ground advantage, glitchy scarabs or scourges.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#10
Maybe I'm old school(19), SC2 is just to repetitive for me to watch. Broodwar just keeps me entertained til 7 in the morning, watching it live straight from Korea.
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#11
I think SC2 is a lot more fun than BW right now since its a new game and has good graphics, but i would prefer to watch BW with Korean commentating than any SC2 game any day of the week.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:42:51
August 28 2010 21:48 GMT
#12
Not as fun watching sc2 as broodwar. Hate watching 1 base all in/aggression plays zzzzz
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 28 2010 21:55 GMT
#13
On August 29 2010 06:48 Kentor wrote:
Not as fun as broodwar. Hate watching 1 base all in/aggression plays zzzzz


Basically it.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:04:10
August 28 2010 21:59 GMT
#14
I like seeing them get shut down though
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 28 2010 22:05 GMT
#15
Just watched Huk vs KiwiKaki finals and it was pretty shitty . So many 1 base all in strats, ugh. It was just really boring honestly, I hope they fix PvP to favor expanding more than warping in stuff from 1 base.

On August 29 2010 06:21 Jyvblamo wrote:
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On August 29 2010 06:20 SubtleArt wrote:
Pales in comparison to the games I've seen in the higher stages of the MSL and OSL but they're good I guess. The lack of micro thingy still makes it less enjoyable for me

Check out some of the PvPs from MLG Raleigh. Plenty of micro exists and plenty is yet to be discovered in SC2.


I did, and theres definitely not as much micro. I remember Kal vs Bisu on Outsider, Bisu lost the entire game because 2 of his reavers were slightly too far away from his main army
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 28 2010 22:09 GMT
#16
Mmm, you see a decent amount of diversity. Personally, I found all of the MLG matches very exciting. I'm not sure if this was just because of Day[9], or because the game is fresh- but damn the games were good. I think once the zerg problems get worked out everything will be just that much better.

I guess I'll just wait for a while, it might get boring with time if everything just stays the same- but I expect years of exciting matches


On August 29 2010 06:48 Kentor wrote:
Not as fun as broodwar. Hate watching 1 base all in/aggression plays zzzzz


Meh, not too many I find apart from pvp, zvz. Then again, that's pretty much what zvz was in bw.
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nasze_zrodlo
Profile Joined February 2010
Cape Verde111 Posts
August 28 2010 22:18 GMT
#17
SC2 is too boring. All matches look the same. Terrible maps and low skilled players.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#18
I love SCII as spectating, but the main problem is mirror matchups. It normally ends up as Ball vs Ball fights without any cool use of units. Hopefully after Blizzard balances the game, they will make the mirror matchups more fun to watch and play.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 28 2010 22:27 GMT
#19
Agreed, the IEM was awesome- especially dimaga vs morrow/tarson was really intense. MLG was dissapointing tho, probably because I don't do protoss..
no dude, the question
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 28 2010 22:32 GMT
#20
I prefer watching BW easily, but I don't completely hate watching SC2 or anything. I also really love playing SC2, so it's not some kind of biased thing. This could change, because I think one reason some people enjoy watching BW more is because you are often able to determine the outcome before it happens. Maybe, it's just me, but in BW if I see 12 marines and 5 medics against 12 hydras I know the Terran should win; in SC2, if it's 12 marines and 5 medivacs against 12 hydras I don't for sure(pretty sure hydras would win though). In BW, I know the timings of stuff; I know when players should be able to do damage, so if I see one player moving out I go "OMG WTF CAN TERRAN DEFEND THIS???", but in SC2 I don't know those as well either. Half the time I think one player has nice timing he ends up getting crushed easily and it's just not as epic as I think it should have been.
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