EPTAnd also the visibility is fucking bad. I can't even see a Mutalisk's attack fly out and bounce off for god's sake, how am I supposed to enjoy the harass? OH shit wait nvm there is no harass worth watching.
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ArvickHero
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And also the visibility is fucking bad. I can't even see a Mutalisk's attack fly out and bounce off for god's sake, how am I supposed to enjoy the harass? OH shit wait nvm there is no harass worth watching. | ||
GTR
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
But Korean BW commentators are professionals so yes I love big BW matches. But SC2 is not a bad spectator sport, the game itself just has to evolve a lot.. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
- no stack muta, no vult micro, wraith micro or w/e : self explanatory :| - smart casting : no Jangbi storms that make me :O :O :O - MBS : any noob can have Flash's TvZ barracks macro :| (I know it took 8 years to understand how to stack mutas, but BW was interesting before that, and I'm not gonna wait 8 years to watch SC2 rofl) Things that might improve : - PLAYGUUUUUUUUU - ALBITOOOOOOOOOO - RIBOOOOOO Seriously, I love Korean commentators. I really mean it. I love them. My wife always complains when she's watching her tv series in the same room "Why the hell do you put the sound so fucking loud, you don't even speak Korean ?!" hahahaha EDIT : + Show Spoiler + OMG FANTA VS FLASH MSL SEMI FINALS SET 1, UBER EPIC TVT OMAGAD OMAGAD FORGET SC2, GO WATCH THIS GAME ASAP !!!! | ||
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Creationism
China505 Posts
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
a huge problem is that in sc2 a lot of micro action is related to the usage of unit skills (e.g. blink, forcefield). the micro in bw is circled around the specific movement capabilities of a unit. the differences between units in sc2 are smaller than in bw. I`ve seen some matches with max. detail level and healthbars on, and it was really hard to tell, what was happening. compared to bw, sc2 often is quite confusing. but I hope it will improve with the addons. | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
SC2 is just too much clutter and you can barely tell the outcome of a battle, and since BW is such a evolved and explored game even small details in gameplay can make big differences. And i can't forget to say that micro battles in BW are 100000000 times more exciting and better than SC2. This will NEVER happen in SC2, never ever  | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On the other hand, SC2, I can watch basically anything. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66356 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On August 19 2010 20:13 niteReloaded wrote: SC2 unless it's a top top matchup, like top 5 kespa vs-ing each other. I can't feel the passion for lower level games. On the other hand, SC2, I can watch basically anything. TSL players are far from being as skilled as korean top tier, nevertheless every single match was incredibly good. I remember putting a pizza in oven just before every match and eat while watching TSL. Even Mondi vs Sen (I know, a foreign ZvZ sounds awful) was so tense ! I also love to watch lowel level games, but it's more for learning purposes. | ||
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
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DemiSe
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Xyik
Canada728 Posts
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
I will agree to what some mentioned, there is way to much unit clumps and 1a moving to make micro battles exiting to watch, it still suffers from the "biggest army wins" syndrome where in BW the dynamics, high ground, momentum of positioning can make units and armies extremely cost effective, the only cost effective units in SC2 are casters and their to few. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
The fact that all of you would base your opinions on something dumb like the ability to select more than 12 units and friggin automine.... jesus christ people. That's like the biggest hockey fan in the world suddenly hating the game because they ditched dead trees for composite sticks. It's inconsequential in the visual appeal to a spectator. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
It's just that the dynamics of the game are more interesting. Cooler unit types, less "blobby" pathing, maps,etc. Maybe this will change with expansions? I don't think the players alone will reinvent enough to make it play that interesting on these maps, I mean it's as about as boring to watch current SC2 game or something from earlier beta - even if they play better. SC2 emphasises unit choices too much, that's not as interesting to watch as maneuvering and battle micro. There's good amount of micro in SC2 but battles tend to be too short. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
And cooler units, dunno about that. The phoenix is the shit. I'll take that any day over a corsair based purely on coolness. Warprays blow scouts out of the water. And the collosus... pure badass. The only unit that got nixed that I really miss is the lurker and maybe defilers. Everything else is lateral at worst or awesome. And I don't get why 'SC2 emphasizes unit choices too much' is constantly brought up. You played BW. What happens if you send lings vs firebats?? Lings vs goons?? The only possible thing that I could see as a negative is that there isn't as much depth due to the lack of established builds yet and the age of the game. But this is also the beauty. There's a lot more to be discovered. It's incentive to get creative. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
BW is definitely more tense at the moment, and this from a guy that knows next to nothing about BW strategy. I just enjoy watching it with the basic principles of RTS. | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
You see, in BW it was like this crazy war but in SC2 you usually see one giant fight and whoever wins wins the game, those make about 90% of the games, in BW a player can win the giant fight but may stilll lose the game, theres just a lot more back and fourth in BW. Great for spectators. Also since BW has less user-friendly things, when I see godly storms in BW im like dam hes fucking good! But when I see storms blanket things in SC2 Im like well... that looks like me when I play... I mean SC2 has so much weird stuff like cooldown with abilities, a unit with attack that slows to make kiting ez mode..., and auto-repair and automine.... its hard for me to get excited as a spectator when I know the stuff is really auto. When I see a player macro in BW i'm like damnnnnn insaneeee. But in SC2 you can select multi building so its not really that impressive, same thing with insane muta micro versus phenix automove shoot thing sigh... | ||
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