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It's been awhile huh!! Here goes!
Again, hide answer in spoilers. And good luck!
You have a broken calculator with only these buttons working: sin cos tan cot sin^-1 cos^-1 tan^-1 cot^-1
where when I say sin^-1 I mean the inverse of sine, not one over sine. i.e. sine(sine-1(x)) = x for x between -1 and 1.
Your calculator now show 0. How do you, after a finite number of pressing buttons, make ANY positive rational number to appear on your screen?
Ahaha maybe there's some confusion, by ANY positive rational number, I mean this: If I want to make 15/23 appear, I can do it. If I want to make any p/q appear, where p, q in natural number, and p, q has no common divisors, I can make it happen after finite number of moves.
sorry! xD
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+ Show Spoiler +...Wouldn't you just press cosine? Unless there's something I'm not getting here.. Edit: I see your edit. Will ponder now.
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+ Show Spoiler +maybe I don't understand the question correctly, but wouldn't just pressing cos give you 1?
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a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
EDIT: redefinition of 1-5 for x = a/b (just need to put this down somewhere) 1. b/a 2. sqrt(b^2-a^2)/b 3. a/sqrt(b^2-a^2) 4. a/sqrt(b^2+a^2) 5. 1/sqrt(b^2+a^2)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress
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On August 19 2010 05:01 infinitestory wrote:a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress
we're getting somewhere
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On August 19 2010 05:01 infinitestory wrote:a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
EDIT: redefinition of 1-5 for x = a/b (just need to put this down somewhere) 1. b/a 2. sqrt(b^2-a^2)/b 3. a/sqrt(b^2-a^2) 4. a/sqrt(b^2+a^2) 5. 1/sqrt(b^2+a^2)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress
+ Show Spoiler +I can't vouch for the truth/falsehood of the above. But if you can create a system for 1/a, then simply typing 'b' before the operation should yield the desired fraction. barccot(tan(a)) = b/a Unless it's cheating to use the implied multiplication
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The calculator doesn't have number buttons.
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United States4053 Posts
On August 19 2010 05:33 BajaBlood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 05:01 infinitestory wrote:a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
EDIT: redefinition of 1-5 for x = a/b (just need to put this down somewhere) 1. b/a 2. sqrt(b^2-a^2)/b 3. a/sqrt(b^2-a^2) 4. a/sqrt(b^2+a^2) 5. 1/sqrt(b^2+a^2)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress + Show Spoiler +I can't vouch for the truth/falsehood of the above. But if you can create a system for 1/a, then simply typing 'b' before the operation should yield the desired fraction. barccot(tan(a)) = b/a Unless it's cheating to use the implied multiplication
You can't type them, only obtain them by result of an operation
EDIT: solved + Show Spoiler + As I stated above, sqrt(a/1) is possible. But sqrt(a/2) is also possible. If a is divisible by 2, then it just reduces to sqrt((a/2)/1), this gives us sqrt(2/2), sqrt(4/2), forever If a is not divisible by 2, well apply operation 1 to sqrt(2/1) to get sqrt(1/2) apply operation 5 to that repeatedly to get sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2), forever
Now let us induct on n, using the same process. Say we can get sqrt(a/1), sqrt(a/2), sqrt(a/3), ... ,sqrt(a/n) for any n then, take sqrt((n+1)/1), sqrt((n+1)/2), ..., sqrt((n+1)/n) and apply operation 1 to them all this gives sqrt(1/(n+1)), sqrt(2/(n+1)), ..., sqrt(n/(n+1)). If we apply operation 5 to all of these, we can get sqrt(a/(n+1)) for any n.
But this gives us the square root of any rational number, so we can obtain any m/n by obtaining sqrt(m^2/n^2).
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On August 19 2010 05:35 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 05:33 BajaBlood wrote:On August 19 2010 05:01 infinitestory wrote:a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
EDIT: redefinition of 1-5 for x = a/b (just need to put this down somewhere) 1. b/a 2. sqrt(b^2-a^2)/b 3. a/sqrt(b^2-a^2) 4. a/sqrt(b^2+a^2) 5. 1/sqrt(b^2+a^2)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress + Show Spoiler +I can't vouch for the truth/falsehood of the above. But if you can create a system for 1/a, then simply typing 'b' before the operation should yield the desired fraction. barccot(tan(a)) = b/a Unless it's cheating to use the implied multiplication You can't type them, only obtain them by result of an operation EDIT: solved + Show Spoiler + As I stated above, sqrt(a/1) is possible. But sqrt(a/2) is also possible. If a is divisible by 2, then it just reduces to sqrt((a/2)/1), this gives us sqrt(2/2), sqrt(4/2), forever If a is not divisible by 2, well apply operation 1 to sqrt(2/1) to get sqrt(1/2) apply operation 5 to that repeatedly to get sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2), forever
Now let us induct on n, using the same process. Say we can get sqrt(a/1), sqrt(a/2), sqrt(a/3), ... ,sqrt(a/n) for any n then, take sqrt((n+1)/1), sqrt((n+1)/2), ..., sqrt((n+1)/n) and apply operation 1 to them all this gives sqrt(1/(n+1)), sqrt(2/(n+1)), ..., sqrt(n/(n+1)). If we apply operation 5 to all of these, we can get sqrt(a/(n+1)) for any n.
But this gives us the square root of any rational number, so we can obtain any m/n by obtaining sqrt(m^2/n^2).
how can you assume that you can get sqrt(a/n) for any n?
applying 1+5 only gets you sqrt(1+x^2). if you apply it again, you will get sqrt(2+x^2) etc. your claim is that by taking sqrt(2) and applying 1/x to make it sqrt(1/2), you can obtain sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2) etc as well, which is perfectly fine. However, if you tried it with sqrt(3), it would become sqrt(1/3), and then you would have a sequence of sqrt(1/3), sqrt (4/3), sqrt(7/3). combined with the natural numbers, you would get sqrts of 1/3, 3/3, 4/3, 6/3, etc. but we're missing the 2/3, 5/3, etc.
the 1+5 algorithm, when applied recursively, will take a fraction sqrt(a/b) and turn it into sqrt(1+a/b). therefore you will get the sqrt of a/b, (b+a)/b, (2b+a)/b, etc. which does not properly fill in the fractions between a/b and (b+a)/b.
tell me if I'm missing something stupid though...
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United States4053 Posts
On August 19 2010 06:42 Roggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 05:35 infinitestory wrote:On August 19 2010 05:33 BajaBlood wrote:On August 19 2010 05:01 infinitestory wrote:a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
EDIT: redefinition of 1-5 for x = a/b (just need to put this down somewhere) 1. b/a 2. sqrt(b^2-a^2)/b 3. a/sqrt(b^2-a^2) 4. a/sqrt(b^2+a^2) 5. 1/sqrt(b^2+a^2)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress + Show Spoiler +I can't vouch for the truth/falsehood of the above. But if you can create a system for 1/a, then simply typing 'b' before the operation should yield the desired fraction. barccot(tan(a)) = b/a Unless it's cheating to use the implied multiplication You can't type them, only obtain them by result of an operation EDIT: solved + Show Spoiler + As I stated above, sqrt(a/1) is possible. But sqrt(a/2) is also possible. If a is divisible by 2, then it just reduces to sqrt((a/2)/1), this gives us sqrt(2/2), sqrt(4/2), forever If a is not divisible by 2, well apply operation 1 to sqrt(2/1) to get sqrt(1/2) apply operation 5 to that repeatedly to get sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2), forever
Now let us induct on n, using the same process. Say we can get sqrt(a/1), sqrt(a/2), sqrt(a/3), ... ,sqrt(a/n) for any n then, take sqrt((n+1)/1), sqrt((n+1)/2), ..., sqrt((n+1)/n) and apply operation 1 to them all this gives sqrt(1/(n+1)), sqrt(2/(n+1)), ..., sqrt(n/(n+1)). If we apply operation 5 to all of these, we can get sqrt(a/(n+1)) for any n.
But this gives us the square root of any rational number, so we can obtain any m/n by obtaining sqrt(m^2/n^2).
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how can you assume that you can get sqrt(a/n) for any n?
applying 1+5 only gets you sqrt(1+x^2). if you apply it again, you will get sqrt(2+x^2) etc. your claim is that by taking sqrt(2) and applying 1/x to make it sqrt(1/2), you can obtain sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2) etc as well, which is perfectly fine. However, if you tried it with sqrt(3), it would become sqrt(1/3), and then you would have a sequence of sqrt(1/3), sqrt (4/3), sqrt(7/3). combined with the natural numbers, you would get sqrts of 1/3, 3/3, 4/3, 6/3, etc. but we're missing the 2/3, 5/3, etc.
the 1+5 algorithm, when applied recursively, will take a fraction sqrt(a/b) and turn it into sqrt(1+a/b). therefore you will get the sqrt of a/b, (b+a)/b, (2b+a)/b, etc. which does not properly fill in the fractions between a/b and (b+a)/b.
tell me if I'm missing something stupid though...
+ Show Spoiler + You get sqrt(2/2), sqrt(4/2), sqrt(6/2), etc. because they are equal to sqrt(1), sqrt(2), etc.
You get sqrt(2/3) by flipping sqrt(3/2)
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where do you get these problems? i feel like i missed something in calc or something because im done with calc 3 already and idk those identities for shit! Maybe i should review my trig proofs haha
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On August 19 2010 06:58 jalstar wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You can't. You don't have an "=" button. + Show Spoiler +Pressing the operator also shows the answer. Old school way.
EDIT: @hypnosis: this is a classic contest math algebra problem (I'm kinda cheating since I solved it a couple years ago, then forgot the solution)
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On August 19 2010 06:53 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 06:42 Roggles wrote:On August 19 2010 05:35 infinitestory wrote:On August 19 2010 05:33 BajaBlood wrote:On August 19 2010 05:01 infinitestory wrote:a start + Show Spoiler +Things we can do: 1. arctan(cot(x)) = arccot(tan(x)) = 1/x 2. arcsin(cos(x)) = arccos(sin(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2) 3. arctan(sin(x)) = arccot(cos(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) 4. arcsin(tan(x)) = arccos(cot(x)) = x/sqrt(1+x^2) 5. arccos(tan(x)) = arcsin(cot(x)) = 1/sqrt(1+x^2) (there is a sixth non-identity operation, but it's equivalent to 1 applied to 3.)
EDIT: redefinition of 1-5 for x = a/b (just need to put this down somewhere) 1. b/a 2. sqrt(b^2-a^2)/b 3. a/sqrt(b^2-a^2) 4. a/sqrt(b^2+a^2) 5. 1/sqrt(b^2+a^2)
will work on it
EDIT: You can get any fraction of the form a/1 or 1/a. Obviously, 1 applied to 5 is sqrt(1+x^2). Repeatedly applying this gives sqrt(2), ..... to infinity. Contained in this sequence are sqrt(4) = 2, sqrt(9) = 3, etc. We can apply 1 to those to get 1/2, 1/3, etc.
Edited, made progress + Show Spoiler +I can't vouch for the truth/falsehood of the above. But if you can create a system for 1/a, then simply typing 'b' before the operation should yield the desired fraction. barccot(tan(a)) = b/a Unless it's cheating to use the implied multiplication You can't type them, only obtain them by result of an operation EDIT: solved + Show Spoiler + As I stated above, sqrt(a/1) is possible. But sqrt(a/2) is also possible. If a is divisible by 2, then it just reduces to sqrt((a/2)/1), this gives us sqrt(2/2), sqrt(4/2), forever If a is not divisible by 2, well apply operation 1 to sqrt(2/1) to get sqrt(1/2) apply operation 5 to that repeatedly to get sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2), forever
Now let us induct on n, using the same process. Say we can get sqrt(a/1), sqrt(a/2), sqrt(a/3), ... ,sqrt(a/n) for any n then, take sqrt((n+1)/1), sqrt((n+1)/2), ..., sqrt((n+1)/n) and apply operation 1 to them all this gives sqrt(1/(n+1)), sqrt(2/(n+1)), ..., sqrt(n/(n+1)). If we apply operation 5 to all of these, we can get sqrt(a/(n+1)) for any n.
But this gives us the square root of any rational number, so we can obtain any m/n by obtaining sqrt(m^2/n^2).
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how can you assume that you can get sqrt(a/n) for any n?
applying 1+5 only gets you sqrt(1+x^2). if you apply it again, you will get sqrt(2+x^2) etc. your claim is that by taking sqrt(2) and applying 1/x to make it sqrt(1/2), you can obtain sqrt(3/2), sqrt(5/2) etc as well, which is perfectly fine. However, if you tried it with sqrt(3), it would become sqrt(1/3), and then you would have a sequence of sqrt(1/3), sqrt (4/3), sqrt(7/3). combined with the natural numbers, you would get sqrts of 1/3, 3/3, 4/3, 6/3, etc. but we're missing the 2/3, 5/3, etc.
the 1+5 algorithm, when applied recursively, will take a fraction sqrt(a/b) and turn it into sqrt(1+a/b). therefore you will get the sqrt of a/b, (b+a)/b, (2b+a)/b, etc. which does not properly fill in the fractions between a/b and (b+a)/b.
tell me if I'm missing something stupid though... + Show Spoiler + You get sqrt(2/2), sqrt(4/2), sqrt(6/2), etc. because they are equal to sqrt(1), sqrt(2), etc.
You get sqrt(2/3) by flipping sqrt(3/2)
+ Show Spoiler + oh yeah that's right...we've filled in a/1 and a/2, and the different values for (a mod 3)/3 can be obtained by flipping previous values. so 1/3 can be gotten from flipping 3/1, and 2/3 can be gotten from flipping 3/2, and therefore a/3 is filled. and this pattern stacks on top of itself recursively.
just wanted a little clarification, sorry. I missed that little jump in the logic.
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On August 19 2010 05:35 Empyrean wrote: The calculator doesn't have number buttons. i think that's the challenge of the problem
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I remember solving this when preparing for USAMO... I think this was on a past one.
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this is an old usamo problem
and VERY ANNOYING
+ Show Spoiler + 0: already exists
begin with cos 0 = 1.
now, notice that
f(x) = cot(arctan(x)) = 1/x g_1(x) = cos(arctan(x)) = 1/sqrt(x^2+1) g_2(x) = sin(arctan(x)) = x/sqrt(x^2+1) h_1(x) = tan(arccos(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2)/x h_2(x) = tan(arcsin(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) h_3(x) sin(arccos(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2)
so we can get any composition of these functions, applied to 1 or 0. call a number that can be reached by a sequence of keypresses "good." If n is good, so is 1/n, since 1/n = f(n). We will show that all numbers x such that x^2 is rational are good; this clearly implies the problem statement.
we only need to show that all rationals q less than 1 (and 1 is good) are good, since every rational greater than 1 is the reciprocal of a rational less than 1.
starting at 1, we find g_2(1) = 1/sqrt(2), g_2(g_2(1)) = 1/sqrt(3), and by induction, if g_2^(k)(1) = 1/sqrt(k+1) [where ^(k) means the function is composed k times], then g_2^(k+1)(1) = g_2(1/sqrt(k+1)) = (1/sqrt(k+1)) / (sqrt( (k+2)/(k+1) ) ) = 1/sqrt(k+2).
so all 1/sqrt(n), n a positive integer, can be reached.
furthermore, we find that all g_1(1/sqrt(n)) = sqrt(n/(n+1)) can be achieved.
Lemma. If sqrt(a/b) is good, so is sqrt(a/(ka+b)) for all nonnegative integers k.
Proof. Notice that g_2(sqrt(a/b)) = sqrt(a/(a+b)); by composing this repeatedly, by induction, we can achieve all sqrt(a/(ka+b)) for nonnegative integer k.
next, we use strong induction on the numerator of sqrt(a/b) to show that all square roots of rationals are good.
We can already construct all sqrt(1/b), so the base case is true.
Assume that for k = 1, 2, ..., n-1, sqrt(k/j) is good for all integers j.
Now, we need only show that all sqrt(n/j) are good, which would complete the induction. If gcd(j,n) = g > 1, then we can cancel g from the top and bottom and get a numerator between 1 and n inclusive, so the statement is true. Hence, we only need to consider cases where gcd(j,n)=1.
Otherwise, let j' be the smallest positive integer so that (j-j' ) is divisible by n; clearly j'<= n, and j' is not n because we don't need to consider when gcd(j,n)>1. Then sqrt(j'/k) is good by the induction hypothesis, so f(sqrt(j'/k)) = sqrt(k/j' ) is also good. Then by the lemma, we can construct all sqrt(k/(j'+k)), so we get all denominators that are j' mod k.
Since we have considered all residues mod k, the denominator can therefore be any positive integer, and the induction is complete.
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On August 19 2010 07:18 ]343[ wrote:this is an old usamo problem and VERY ANNOYING + Show Spoiler + 0: already exists
begin with cos 0 = 1.
now, notice that
f(x) = cot(arctan(x)) = 1/x g_1(x) = cos(arctan(x)) = 1/sqrt(x^2+1) g_2(x) = sin(arctan(x)) = x/sqrt(x^2+1) h_1(x) = tan(arccos(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2)/x h_2(x) = tan(arcsin(x)) = x/sqrt(1-x^2) h_3(x) sin(arccos(x)) = sqrt(1-x^2)
so we can get any composition of these functions, applied to 1 or 0. call a number that can be reached by a sequence of keypresses "good." If n is good, so is 1/n, since 1/n = f(n). We will show that all numbers x such that x^2 is rational are good; this clearly implies the problem statement.
we only need to show that all rationals q less than 1 (and 1 is good) are good, since every rational greater than 1 is the reciprocal of a rational less than 1.
starting at 1, we find g_2(1) = 1/sqrt(2), g_2(g_2(1)) = 1/sqrt(3), and by induction, if g_2^(k)(1) = 1/sqrt(k+1) [where ^(k) means the function is composed k times], then g_2^(k+1)(1) = g_2(1/sqrt(k+1)) = (1/sqrt(k+1)) / (sqrt( (k+2)/(k+1) ) ) = 1/sqrt(k+2).
so all 1/sqrt(n), n a positive integer, can be reached.
furthermore, we find that all g_1(1/sqrt(n)) = sqrt(n/(n+1)) can be achieved.
Lemma. If sqrt(a/b) is good, so is sqrt(a/(ka+b)) for all nonnegative integers k.
Proof. Notice that g_2(sqrt(a/b)) = sqrt(a/(a+b)); by composing this repeatedly, by induction, we can achieve all sqrt(a/(ka+b)) for nonnegative integer k.
next, we use strong induction on the numerator of sqrt(a/b) to show that all square roots of rationals are good.
We can already construct all sqrt(1/b), so the base case is true.
Assume that for k = 1, 2, ..., n-1, sqrt(k/j) is good for all integers j.
Now, we need only show that all sqrt(n/j) are good, which would complete the induction. If gcd(j,n) = g > 1, then we can cancel g from the top and bottom and get a numerator between 1 and n inclusive, so the statement is true. Hence, we only need to consider cases where gcd(j,n)=1.
Otherwise, let j' be the smallest positive integer so that (j-j' ) is divisible by n; clearly j'<= n, and j' is not n because we don't need to consider when gcd(j,n)>1. Then sqrt(j'/k) is good by the induction hypothesis, so f(sqrt(j'/k)) = sqrt(k/j' ) is also good. Then by the lemma, we can construct all sqrt(k/(j'+k)), so we get all denominators that are j' mod k.
Since we have considered all residues mod k, the denominator can therefore be any positive integer, and the induction is complete.
thank you sir
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since you have all the inverse functions, the problem is equivalent to taking any arbitrary rational number ( = a/b for some integers a and b) and turning it into zero. might be a useful approach going at it from the other direction
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Sanya12364 Posts
Incomplete + Show Spoiler + method 1: tan(cot-1(n)) = 1/n so for any n=1/(a/b) you can also get to n=a/b
method 2: cos(tan-1(n))) = 1/sq(n^2+1) combined with method 1 tan(cot-1(cos(tan-1(sq(a)) = sq(a+1) starting with 0, this pattern allows for all positive integers - but only for integers for now
now for some modulus: some x where x mod b is equivalent to a mod b (x/b can be expressed as x/b+C where C is an integer) x^2 mod b^2 is equivalent to x^2 mod b^2 also where x mod b is equivalent to b - (x mod b) x^2 mod b^2 is equivalent to x^2 mod b^2 this is less important though
in these cases n=x/b can be express as sq(x^2/b^2 + D) where D is some integer combined with method 2, the conclusion is that given a/b you can get to any n=a/b+C where C is a positive integer
anyways the final piece of the puzzle is continued fractions where we want to express all rational numbers as 1/1/(1/ (a +C)+D) +E)....
I haven't gotten there yet.
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