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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
July 28 2010 09:21 GMT
#1
A note on the majority of traditional media: they sell emotions. Anger, joy, agreement, disagreement--their goal is to get you riled up so you keep watching, drive their ratings up and pad their income ledger. The only time they concentrate on the most important issue at hand is coincidence, they don't give context and they certainly don't give grounded analysis.

Instead of watching the evening news, watch a movie. They're better at being entertaining and they don't have advertisements. If you want news, go online and look at different news sites. Explore multiple articles online for each topic & choose sites who you agree with, and more importantly, who you don't agree with. Read them both, mill over perspectives, and Google things which arouse curiosity or for which you lack comprehension.

Of course, if you just want topics to think about and to be inundated with a ridiculously moderate viewpoint on everything then turn on the TV and expose yourself to it. And while you're at it, start smoking too.

I wish I could chase them all around with a sharp stick.

*****
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 28 2010 09:58 GMT
#2
You are from the US. You have the right to say this. American news coverage is about as informative as a reality show or a soap-opera.

However, there are countries where the media is not that bad and you can use it a source of information.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
July 28 2010 10:51 GMT
#3
I was thinking about this the other day. Regular media usually have a bias and only report on issues that fit the narrative. Commercial news programs send stuff about how unemployment can be fixed if we cut social securities and benefits or how you can safe guard your house against deadly somethings. It always feels like you're watching something from the 80's.

On the other hand, there is Radio. Lately I've been listening to public broadcast radio and I'm baffled at the amount of objective journalism and reporting that goes on. In a day you can be informed on all the major issues, questions dealing with life, religion and existence (without a Christian agenda), the latest science news, consumer rights, gardening etc. After listening to the radio, I really can't take regular news seriously at all. Trying to do a 2-minute analysis by an expert falls flat on its face compared to a 10 minute report followed by another 10 minute discussion on the radio. If it's a critical issue, like say the Wikileaks document leakage, they can easily set aside an hour and discuss every side of the issue. Highly recommended.
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vOddy
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden402 Posts
July 28 2010 11:54 GMT
#4
On July 28 2010 18:58 ggrrg wrote:
You are from the US. You have the right to say this. American news coverage is about as informative as a reality show or a soap-opera.

However, there are countries where the media is not that bad and you can use it a source of information.


EXCELLENT post! Man, good job! Damn! :D
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
July 28 2010 13:08 GMT
#5
The TV news in Croatia was decent back when there was only the national television. Now with the commercial channels, even the national television started to sell their dramas..
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
July 28 2010 14:16 GMT
#6
very true homie good op
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MER
Profile Joined June 2008
Bulgaria125 Posts
July 28 2010 15:37 GMT
#7
On July 28 2010 18:58 ggrrg wrote:
You are from the US. You have the right to say this. American news coverage is about as informative as a reality show or a soap-opera.

However, there are countries where the media is not that bad and you can use it a source of information.


I don't consider Bulgarian news media to be any good. But I haven't been in the US so I can't compare..
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 15:53:26
July 28 2010 15:42 GMT
#8
On July 29 2010 00:37 MER wrote:
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On July 28 2010 18:58 ggrrg wrote:
You are from the US. You have the right to say this. American news coverage is about as informative as a reality show or a soap-opera.

However, there are countries where the media is not that bad and you can use it a source of information.


I don't consider Bulgarian news media to be any good. But I haven't been in the US so I can't compare..


The only thing America has going for it is relatively more freedom than the press in some other countries (like China. rofl). The quality and fact-checking of mass-media "journalism" of the kind you see on Fox News is trash, and most of it is sensationalist non-news that preys on the vast number of (for lack of a better term) ignorant people in the country.

The print media is much better, though. Quality journalism from respected institutions like the Economist magazine or the Wall Street Journal (and even more accessible publications like TIME magazine or the New York Times) is still there. Even smaller, local newspapers are generally very good about overt bias and getting their facts straight. American publications are top notch. TV/radio not so much.
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crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 28 2010 16:08 GMT
#9
Problem with reading the Times is that you will miss about a third of the stories that are favorable towards conservatives. ie. They won't cover them.
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dyren
Profile Joined December 2009
United States260 Posts
July 28 2010 16:46 GMT
#10
m/ed/ia.... m/af/ia.... it's only two letters difference....
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 28 2010 16:50 GMT
#11
On July 29 2010 00:42 Empyrean wrote:American publications are top notch. TV/radio not so much.


It's funny because when I was in Scotland for uni everyone was like don't read the papers they're all tabloids, just watch BBC.
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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 17:00:37
July 28 2010 17:00 GMT
#12
On July 29 2010 01:46 dyren wrote:
m/ed/ia.... m/af/ia.... it's only two letters difference....


LOL WTF

That's not how etymology works

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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
July 28 2010 17:53 GMT
#13
On July 29 2010 01:50 Southlight wrote:
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On July 29 2010 00:42 Empyrean wrote:American publications are top notch. TV/radio not so much.


It's funny because when I was in Scotland for uni everyone was like don't read the papers they're all tabloids, just watch BBC.


American print journalism is some of the best in the world. The only potential gripe I have with it is that sometimes it feels like it has to present all sides of the issue, so it gives equal treatment to things such as alternative medicine and stuff like that.

And if people in Scotland think American print journalism is trash, I wonder what they'll think of MSNBC or Fox News? CNN's also a joke.
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vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 01:20:41
July 28 2010 18:20 GMT
#14
TV news in Australia is pretty good if you stick to the ABC or SBS news.

Channel 7 is our Fox News.. just horrible trashy stories with no substance (eg "A CELEBRITY HAS HAD A BABY" was the top news story the other day). The current affairs program on 7 runs blatantly racist stories every second week. They enjoy bashing on gaming, condemning the internet, promoting their own shows in fake news stories and harassing people on the street with cameras.

They had a seemingly positive segment on gaming once but it was just a big commercial with people explaining that they loved buying the new version FIFA every year. They then talked about how "World of Warfare 2 is the biggest-selling game of all time". Quality stuff.

Channel 9 and 10 are in between.

I was pretty shocked that people actually watched and took Fox News seriously when I visited America. It is pretty much a global joke of a "news" station.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
July 28 2010 18:29 GMT
#15
On July 29 2010 03:20 vek wrote:
I was pretty shocked that people actually watched and took Fox News seriously when I visited America. It is pretty much a global joke of a "news" station.


Tens of millions of Americans literally believe in Fox News.
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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
July 28 2010 18:42 GMT
#16
Isn't it disturbing? Whenever I think about it I always end up back at my sharp stick idea.

I've been neglecting American radio! What stations are the good ones? 90.2? am/fm? Is there a way I can listen to it through my computer? I'll be searching for these answers too, so tune in next time~!
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
July 28 2010 19:37 GMT
#17
On July 29 2010 03:42 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
Isn't it disturbing? Whenever I think about it I always end up back at my sharp stick idea.

I've been neglecting American radio! What stations are the good ones? 90.2? am/fm? Is there a way I can listen to it through my computer? I'll be searching for these answers too, so tune in next time~!


NPR and its local affiliates are the only radio news stations you should be listening to. The station depends on where you are, but American stations end in odd decimals O_o
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
July 28 2010 22:39 GMT
#18
I would think that it's because people buy emotions.
I hate to be the guy who goes 'omg wake up sheeple', but sometimes I listen to other people's conversations and I find that I just can't understand the way that their minds work. It's an eerie feeling.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 29 2010 00:12 GMT
#19
On July 29 2010 00:37 MER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 18:58 ggrrg wrote:
You are from the US. You have the right to say this. American news coverage is about as informative as a reality show or a soap-opera.

However, there are countries where the media is not that bad and you can use it a source of information.


I don't consider Bulgarian news media to be any good. But I haven't been in the US so I can't compare..


Actually my first statement was targeted at German media. The national TV stations as well as some major newspapers offer pretty decent and completely unbiased news coverage.

Bulgarian TV news coverage might be rather unprofessional, but American news channels are biased as hell, often enough factually wrong and some of them simply spew propaganda 24/7. The most listened radio shows in the US are basically brainwashing. However, I don't know what the quality of the printed media is.

Empyrean's comments give a pretty good insight, by the way.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
November 29 2010 02:31 GMT
#20
BATHE THE COUNTRY IN BLOOD
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
November 29 2010 10:42 GMT
#21
Canadian news is just as bad, printed and television, at least in my opinion. I mostly just read news to have something to talk about, I'm so sad
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
November 29 2010 11:48 GMT
#22
NPR is great in terms of objectivity, as well as offering other less commonly encountered tidbits of interest mixed in [music, culture, etc].
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Whitesheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States59 Posts
November 29 2010 17:52 GMT
#23
you can sense bad media a mile off.

just another thread to bash on america, created by an american.
if you dont like certain media why not just steer clear? wtf

and i wouldnt exclude other countries from bad media, believe me.
pfft
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
November 30 2010 00:58 GMT
#24
On July 29 2010 03:20 vek wrote:
TV news in Australia is pretty good if you stick to the ABC or SBS news.

Channel 7 is our Fox News.. just horrible trashy stories with no substance (eg "A CELEBRITY HAS HAD A BABY" was the top news story the other day). The current affairs program on 7 runs blatantly racist stories every second week. They enjoy bashing on gaming, condemning the internet, promoting their own shows in fake news stories and harassing people on the street with cameras.

They had a seemingly positive segment on gaming once but it was just a big commercial with people explaining that they loved buying the new version FIFA every year. They then talked about how "World of Warfare 2 is the biggest-selling game of all time". Quality stuff.

Channel 9 and 10 are in between.

I was pretty shocked that people actually watched and took Fox News seriously when I visited America. It is pretty much a global joke of a "news" station.


Or how about recently on 7 or maybe 10, 10 second segment, N Korean artilleried S Korea oh dear, 10 minute expose on Obama' TRAGIC split lip from playing basketball.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
December 01 2010 00:43 GMT
#25
On November 30 2010 02:52 Whitesheep wrote:
you can sense bad media a mile off.

just another thread to bash on america, created by an american.
if you dont like certain media why not just steer clear? wtf

and i wouldnt exclude other countries from bad media, believe me.

I can. You can. But these companies are huge, pervasive, and the majority of Americans (especially those from older generations) are just besieged by this awful shit. I have no problem watching them because I can do so critically...but when I hear grocery-mart conversations about anecdotal and mean-world syndrome shit it drives me CRAZY.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
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