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gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
July 22 2010 07:44 GMT
#21
I love Brood War. I really do. It's a versatile and well-polished game that's taken 12 years to get to an incredible level of balance. At first I thought that SC2 could never ever reach that level with all of the AI fly-by-wire stuff it does for you like auto-mining and damage efficiency (think siege tanks). But watching TLO play in several of the beta tournaments has given me hope for creative and exciting play in the future.
There is hope!
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 10:36:34
July 22 2010 10:36 GMT
#22
wrong thread
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
July 22 2010 11:11 GMT
#23
sc1 has sprites man. sprites!! you can click on the low res pixels and micro them to glory. 3d while nice is just, to damn lush. I want my pixels!
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
July 22 2010 11:42 GMT
#24
Brood war will always be in my heart, that shit is hard man! SC 2 is the newest ho in our little website and I gotta admit she got looks, has quality, and kinda easy to know about but hard to master when you make her your wife

Good read ^_^
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
July 22 2010 18:03 GMT
#25
Even before SC2, the Team Liquid SC:BW community gave me the solid RTS understanding I needed to reach the top 75 in a totally different game: Red Alert 3. And now I'm writing about SC2 on my offsite blog, something which might end up changing my entire life (who knows).

Rock on TL. Rock on.
--------------------------> My Smiley Face Disagrees, Your Argument is Invalid -------------------------->
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 18:10:41
July 22 2010 18:09 GMT
#26
I don't know about you, but I played Starcraft because it was fun. Now Starcraft 2 is more fun. All this 'hardship" and "tight knit community" was just a byproduct of that.

I feel like I'm more part of the SC2 community than I ever was of the BW community.
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Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 20:10:17
July 22 2010 20:09 GMT
#27
On July 22 2010 15:14 Crunchums wrote:
The most annoying thing about the SC2/BW conflict is even if the BW people are right and SC2 is garbage that's not going to change anything. SC2 is still going to become the main game by virtue of shininess; just look at Brawl or SF4.


Whenever I see those kinds of conflicts I find it ironic. It's almost as if a large portion of gamers never wanted SC2 to release in the first place.

Personally, I can't wait to continue that storyline that captivated me back in 2000!

Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 23 2010 03:06 GMT
#28
Yeah, it's pretty cool to walk by campus and see that everyone who was playing dota is now turning to starcraft 2, or checking out the DOW, AOE forums and seeing starcraft 2 forums piling up. Not only that, people on facebook are talking about starcraft as well. Already you feel like you don't have to be ashamed that you're playing an old game anymore because everyone knows about it.

But I still think starcraft is a long way from becoming a true E-sport. I think that for this to happen, it would be necessary for CSL to have a bigger impact. People who play sports like soccer get to meet their peers and practice as a team. Same should go for starcraft, because after all, we aren't only interested in watching the game. We need to be able to play it and socialize as well, form clans and really get to know the people in them. Then starcraft will be a true esport for the western hemisphere. It has the potential.

I have no doubt starcraft is a good mental workout, perhaps people will see the value of the game in being such a workout and in the future exercising one's mind will be as valuable as exercising one's physique. Then maybe one day we'll see gaming become a part of everyday life for the average american.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 23 2010 04:30 GMT
#29
I have a lot of fun playing SC2 and I think as an esport it has incredible potential. Will it ever be as good as BW? No, and that makes me sad because BW deserves the type of recognition SC2 is getting from the foreign community. A part of me inside wants SC2 to fail in Korea and SC to live it.

The thing I hate most about SC2 is not something in the game but with the people. The new people that come over and bring the trash from their previous communities and stink up places like the SC2 forum, or Day9's stream. You would be embarrassed for posting content of that level in a pre-SC2 TL, but in the new age, only the mods care, and they can only do so much to limit the level of stupidity (tl has the best moderation of any game forum imo). The streams are the worst place where players that bring an incredible amount of entertainment and pour a ton of time into being the best they can are ridiculed and lambasted with insults. I sometimes see derogatory insults towards Korean and Chinese players simply because they are considered the class of RTS gaming and the ones who take esports to the highest levels.

I would say lastly I am disappointed in the complete ignorance of BW by most of the newer SC2 users. I often get angry at the stupid polls made by asking what game is better, and seeing that SC2 has a gigantic lead is almost infuriating. Its almost as if BW never existed to these people. Whenever discussions of mechanics pops up these people will be quick to respond with "wtf sc2 should not have 12year old broken mechanics and horrible ui that burns my eyes." So what if the goon AI was horrible? The best players get over it and what we see is sometimes breathtaking.

Overall I am just disappointed in the community SC2 has spawned and not so much about the game. SC2 does not feel like a "family" to me, much unlike BW.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
July 23 2010 13:50 GMT
#30
Saracen is my hero.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 16:49:00
July 23 2010 16:47 GMT
#31
Saracen,

you give alot of good points in your blog, but what you need to remember is that alot of the Brood War community aren't really "gamers" in the generic sense. Brood War is the only game we've ever really appreciated; we really don't care about "global acceptance of e-sports" or even the gaming community in general. We don't follow E3 and we're not modern warfare whores who just buy the next in the series. Outside of SCBW, we have no connection to video games other than a broken down 10 year old Nintendo 64. SC1 is the only game we've ever really cared about, and ICCUP grows emptier by the day. That's what really makes us sad.
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
July 23 2010 17:02 GMT
#32
Amazing post
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 24 2010 00:55 GMT
#33
On July 24 2010 01:47 Try wrote:
Saracen,

you give alot of good points in your blog, but what you need to remember is that alot of the Brood War community aren't really "gamers" in the generic sense. Brood War is the only game we've ever really appreciated; we really don't care about "global acceptance of e-sports" or even the gaming community in general. We don't follow E3 and we're not modern warfare whores who just buy the next in the series. Outside of SCBW, we have no connection to video games other than a broken down 10 year old Nintendo 64. SC1 is the only game we've ever really cared about, and ICCUP grows emptier by the day. That's what really makes us sad.

Then brood war gamers need to learn to play for fun :D
Really games can be pretty crappy and still be fun as long as you are learning about them and experimenting. New games give people a great opportunity to learn new things and have lots of fun doing that.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:48:51
July 24 2010 01:26 GMT
#34
On July 23 2010 03:09 Chill wrote:
I don't know about you, but I played Starcraft because it was fun. Now Starcraft 2 is more fun. All this 'hardship" and "tight knit community" was just a byproduct of that.

I feel like I'm more part of the SC2 community than I ever was of the BW community.

Its funny hearing you say that when i recall you not looking forward to sc2. Im glad sc2 turned into a good sequel unlike other games like Brawl and shit
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
July 24 2010 06:33 GMT
#35
sc2 is okay, and maybe it will become great in some years. the sad thing for me is, that bw is still kinda new to me (playing since 2008), so I don't want to switch games right now. (my pc sucks anyway...) dammit.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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