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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
July 13 2010 00:15 GMT
#41
Feel bad for you gladstone, hope everything goes okay!
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 13 2010 00:18 GMT
#42
You need to make an educated decision on how to go about getting help for this, at the very least you need to talk to a school counselor and get some good personalized advice. Using social services to help you out is a RESOURCE. If you are interested to know exactly what they do in situations like yours you can google the Department of Health and Services in your state and read how they assess and what they do in different situations. They will NOT remove anyone from the house or seperate a family unless there is a serious imminent risk of injury. What they mostly do is provide counselors and mediators free of charge and work out a plan to fix these problems.

I have close relatives who work in human services in Oregon, so i've seen first hand how much they can help people out.

Read up and make a solid decision on how best to help your sister, mother, and even your dad, I guarantee he isn't doing well either. The most important thing is that you do SOMETHING. Inaction is also a choice, and its not one a responsible person should ever take in a situation like this.

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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 13 2010 00:19 GMT
#43
I think people are underestimating the mother's role in this entire situation.

YPang the only thing you can do is persuade your mother into doing what's best for your sister. Chances are she might be sticking with your father in order to make sure that both you and your sister get the funds you both need for college. At least that's what my mom has been doing for the past 10 or so years.

Assuming you call Child Services, you're still stuck. If anything I would suggest you to tell your mother to act like the perfect obedient Asian woman and do whatever he wants at least until you are out of college. You're not being a pussy. You're taking the only logical way out of this while securing yourself a source of income you can use to take your sister out.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
July 13 2010 00:21 GMT
#44
I'm really sorry to hear this. I wont judge your father, maybe he has so much frustration and pressure or anger, but at the end of the day whats happening is not acceptable. I hope you dont let it affect you too much. Work hard and get independent ASAP. Take care of your sister.. no 10 yr old girl deserves that. ><

gl. seriously.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 13 2010 00:23 GMT
#45
On July 13 2010 08:51 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 08:48 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you're not exaggerating then please contact child protective services or at least the counselors at your school.

No exaggeration :\, i just simply translated as best as i can from chinese to english. I thought about reporting such things but you know i never get the kick to do it. And even if i got people that tells me to do it, i just can't ...


You need a kick? How about your sister being beaten, abused and having her life ruined?

I know this isn't easy man but wtf, stop this.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 13 2010 00:24 GMT
#46
YPang, I think the best thing for you to do is to talk it over with your mother. Your mother holds the keys to the future of your "family".

If you call child services, your mother is unlikely to back you and is likely to just stick to your father because she has no job. That's only gonna cause more rifts in your family. Unless you persuade your mother first, she's not gonna oblige. The chances are minimal really.

Even if she does agree, life is gonna be tougher for you, your mother, and your sister. There's gonna be bumps along the way, and it's not gonna be pretty. I trust that you're old enough to make the right decision along the way. Make good judgments and in the end it'll all be good. Have faith in yourself YPang.
God Bless
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 13 2010 00:24 GMT
#47
If i report, there are several things on my mind

1. What will happen to family
2. How am i gonna support myself or my mom/sister
3. what if my dad doesn't get any suspension, things might jsut be worse.
4. and yes i think my mom might bail him out anyways.
5. most importantly, i don't think they will take any person's words for it, i think they need to see physical bruise marks inorder to do anything. I might be wrong. But right now, nobody has bruise marks.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 13 2010 00:25 GMT
#48
YPang has your family or relatives tried to convince you this type of family environment is normal in Chinese culture? If so is that one of the reasons you haven't acted?
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 13 2010 00:26 GMT
#49
DO NOT call child services. that will not make ur life any better, it will just ruin ur life, ur sisters life, and ur mothers life.

here is the only viable, real world solution. first enroll ur sister in some sort of self defense class. then train her in basic weapons, hand 2 hand first, then projectile/ranged. once she has the basics down, u can see if she has the right mentality. get her used to taking punches, dodging attacks, etc. if she is 2 scared, maybe take her on vacation to tailand or a buddist temple or smth, use ur creativity. do this on ur holiday breaks and summer vacation. ur first priority should still be studying university, but a close second is the training of ur 10yo sister. after a few years of this, she should be ready. she is now hit girl, like from the movie kick ass. if ur dad tries touching her she can unleash the beast and be like "u wanna play 2 dad?? u cunt" and kick the shit out of him. this is the only solution that will work imo.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 13 2010 00:27 GMT
#50
On July 13 2010 09:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
YPang has your family or relatives tried to convince you this type of family environment is normal in Chinese culture? If so is that one of the reasons you haven't acted?

Yes, its "normal" my dad was abused child so he claimed. This is why its happening. But in China i guess this is an okay act.

And yes i do believe my dad knows what he's doing is illegal because he told my sister to lie about her bruises if asked.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 13 2010 00:28 GMT
#51
here is the only viable, real world solution. first enroll ur sister in some sort of self defense class. then train her in basic weapons, hand 2 hand first, then projectile/ranged. once she has the basics down, u can see if she has the right mentality. get her used to taking punches, dodging attacks, etc. if she is 2 scared, maybe take her on vacation to tailand or a buddist temple or smth, use ur creativity. do this on ur holiday breaks and summer vacation. ur first priority should still be studying university, but a close second is the training of ur 10yo sister. after a few years of this, she should be ready. she is now hit girl, like from the movie kick ass. if ur dad tries touching her she can unleash the beast and be like "u wanna play 2 dad?? u cunt" and kick the shit out of him. this is the only solution that will work imo.


lmao XD!! ^^
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 00:29:44
July 13 2010 00:28 GMT
#52
On July 13 2010 09:19 FragKrag wrote:
I think people are underestimating the mother's role in this entire situation.

YPang the only thing you can do is persuade your mother into doing what's best for your sister. Chances are she might be sticking with your father in order to make sure that both you and your sister get the funds you both need for college. At least that's what my mom has been doing for the past 10 or so years.

Assuming you call Child Services, you're still stuck. If anything I would suggest you to tell your mother to act like the perfect obedient Asian woman and do whatever he wants at least until you are out of college. You're not being a pussy. You're taking the only logical way out of this while securing yourself a source of income you can use to take your sister out.


It would be a different story if it was just the 3 of them, but he has a 10 year old sister who's being forced to slap her own face hard, stand in the cellar and lie about her beatings at school.

A steady income and money for college is important and all, but it sure as hell isn't worth going through years of abuse.

In the end, what the mother does is up to her, but he absolutely needs to take care of his sister. It seems as though noone else will.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 13 2010 00:31 GMT
#53
On July 13 2010 09:24 YPang wrote:
If i report, there are several things on my mind

1. What will happen to family
2. How am i gonna support myself or my mom/sister
3. what if my dad doesn't get any suspension, things might jsut be worse.
4. and yes i think my mom might bail him out anyways.
5. most importantly, i don't think they will take any person's words for it, i think they need to see physical bruise marks inorder to do anything. I might be wrong. But right now, nobody has bruise marks.

1) This one's the tough one. Even if you report, your mother is going to lose the most out of all this. As you said, she's a housewife, which means she probably doesn't have the skills necessary in order to sustain a household as well as a child.
2) You can support yourself. Just loan your way through college, with aid of scholarships and stuff. Then go into debt and work on paying it back. Your mother and sister on the other hand might suffer a bit.
3) I believe its your words vs his. They'll most likely take your sister's words since I think they trust children more.
4) Very possible. In fact I think this is the most logical choice for her to be honest.
5) Nah, I think they'll take your word. If not yours, then your sisters.

The problem is if you call, your family is going to be in shambles. The way I see it, it's just a lose lose situation honestly.
God Bless
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 13 2010 00:31 GMT
#54
1. I doubt a 'family' exists at this point. Most likely your mother latching onto your father for support. As Roffles said, have a nice long talk with her before you do anything because she is the most obvious barrier to anything you do. If she backs your father everything is a waste of effort.

2. Yeah nobody can answer that. Go through college and work up a lot of debts and work them off is the 'real' man solution, but hardly ideal.

3. He will get suspension, but your mom will back him. Even if she doesn't, it's only a temporary solution and when he comes out he will be fucking angry (take this from me, my father was fucking angry at me after I sent him to jail).

4. That's what mine did. Even after I spent the night trying to convince her not to.

5. dunno

Orome yeah, but the idea is to avoid all contact if at all possible. It's either that or have his family live off of welfare. There is no easy way out since enforcement of divorces is very lax in the US. Chances are that the man will never pay for anything. It's extremely easy to dodge those feels.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 13 2010 00:31 GMT
#55
On July 13 2010 09:24 YPang wrote:
If i report, there are several things on my mind

1. What will happen to family
2. How am i gonna support myself or my mom/sister
3. what if my dad doesn't get any suspension, things might jsut be worse.
4. and yes i think my mom might bail him out anyways.
5. most importantly, i don't think they will take any person's words for it, i think they need to see physical bruise marks inorder to do anything. I might be wrong. But right now, nobody has bruise marks.


Then talk to your school counsellor first and ask him how you should best approach the situation. But don't just sit there and do nothing about it.

Have you talked with your sister about all of this?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 00:34:05
July 13 2010 00:32 GMT
#56
On July 13 2010 09:27 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 09:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
YPang has your family or relatives tried to convince you this type of family environment is normal in Chinese culture? If so is that one of the reasons you haven't acted?

Yes, its "normal" my dad was abused child so he claimed. This is why its happening. But in China i guess this is an okay act.

And yes i do believe my dad knows what he's doing is illegal because he told my sister to lie about her bruises if asked.


You need to have a clear boundary in your head of where Chinese values end and American ones take over. If you think your sister needs help then you need to act.

You don't need to contact the government but you need to find the will to do something.
Carthac
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States393 Posts
July 13 2010 00:32 GMT
#57
Please contact child protective services. Happiness far exceeds money in importance in life, no matter what anyone says. Emotional abuse can severely affect a child, especially a female at 10 years old.

I beg of you, please contact someone to look at your household for the sake of your little sister.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 13 2010 00:33 GMT
#58
i will read responses after my run, thank all.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
July 13 2010 00:35 GMT
#59
On July 13 2010 09:02 shieldbreak wrote:
I suggest you beat the crap out of that bastard until he thinks twice about doing that shit to you guys. He can't call the cops b/c then you can just tell what he's been doing the whole time.

At least NOT this. Idk about the child service because I'm not the expert on that matter.
But I totally understand your situation. My dad is pretty much the same (verbally). Luckily I never was physically abused.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 13 2010 00:37 GMT
#60
This is quite a common problem in a lot of families, but this is one of the worst that I've ever heard of. Firstly, it has nothing to do with the sausages at all. The reason why a lot of fathers get angry is because of the tremendous amount of stress they face at work. School stress is nothing compared to work stress. At work, a lot rests on your shoulders, your boss is constantly verbally abusing you, etc, but the worst part is you have to suck it all up. This causes an extremely unhealthy emotional buildup. Your father takes his anger on your family because they're the only ones he can do it out on. He expresses his anger to you because he wants you to understand how bad it is for him, and how he has to go through hell just to put a roof over your head and food in your stomach. It's extremely frustrating to a father when his family does not repay him, or at least appreciate him for all he does. The absolute worst nightmare for a father is to put in every ounce of blood and sweat to raise a family, and not get the results desired. Your father does not want you, your sister, or your mother to be hurt. Every father wants a loving family, but not every father can put himself against his emotions to make a loving family. I guess your father is one of the many that can only use sheer anger to express how he feels.

To make things better, firstly you shouldn't lash back at him or call social services. That makes things much worse for you father and much worse for your family. What you need to do is to demonstrate to your father in some way that you understand everything that he goes through in order to put a roof over your heads and food in your stomachs, and you will try your best to make him proud. This may be one of the hardest things to do in your life. I for one, did not pull the courage to do such a thing to a man I was afraid of. I just tried a bit harder in school just so my father was a bit more content and also to grind it out until I moved out. You also have a sister on the line as well, maybe that's something to consider. Whatever you do, I would advise against calling social services or lashing back at him, unless it's the absolute last thing.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do. A lot rests on your shoulders right now. Report back to us whenever you feel the need.
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