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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
June 18 2010 06:39 GMT
#21
actually, my macro improved after playing SC2 but my micro has gone to shit.. can only select 12 units..lol
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
June 18 2010 06:42 GMT
#22
On June 18 2010 15:38 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 15:22 ella_guru wrote:
I will play you all the time.

We have history.

you ate cakes at my house fuck.

It's supposed to be
Syllables: five seven five.
Or were you joking?



Those things are all true : (
Each day gets better : )
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
June 18 2010 07:12 GMT
#23
yo, i'd be down to play with you for a whole bunch of games pm me! and great read too ^_^ i give you 5/5
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
June 18 2010 09:55 GMT
#24
deep in side, we are all love to play 4v4 melee with our friends. playing with stranger in 1 on 1 game is just for killing time.
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 10:52:10
June 18 2010 10:50 GMT
#25
5/5

Maybe they should include another option for ladder. "Play series games." You would choose between Bo3, Bo5 and Bo7 and you will be matched against an random opponent of your rank just like in a normal ladder match but BNet will make you two play for 3-7 games in a row. Sounds fun to me.
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alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 11:04:43
June 18 2010 11:03 GMT
#26
I thought it was a good rant. I feel the same way after an Iccup session these days. Cold and abandoned.

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uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
June 18 2010 11:29 GMT
#27
SC2 should have a post-game lobby that you and your opponent join after you finish a ladder game. Then you could easily talk to that guy/add him to friends/play that guy again or just start a new ladder game.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 18 2010 11:30 GMT
#28
? But wouldn't playing against a stranger force you to be more flexible, and able to respond to a variety of different strategies? Assuming that you're not talking about the D ladder, because 'standard' there is going to be about 50%, and the people that play safe on there are even lower than that, but two people that know how to "macro and play safe," playing each other should be a challenge to you. You shouldn't be assuming that a stranger's going to play a certain way just because everyone else is doing it. You should be scouting and reacting, and moving your army based on what you scout, not based on what you know about that person.

I think playing with friends is much funner, but it doesn't necessarily make you a better player in the long run/against other people. I mean, it's a part of the game, but not one that people under A level need to think about imo.

But yea. A good rant. ^^
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 18 2010 11:59 GMT
#29
I didn't even realize how right you are until reading this.

B.Net 2.0 is lonely not just because of lack of chat channels.
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boring
Profile Joined April 2009
38 Posts
June 18 2010 13:15 GMT
#30
5/5
(starcraft) non olat
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
June 18 2010 14:59 GMT
#31
I know exactly how you feel, me and a friend started playing around the same time, and I have the MOST fun playing BW when im playing with him.
especially since im toss and hes terran :E
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
June 18 2010 16:06 GMT
#32
It is definately more fun with friends. In any game.
Phlatline
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Croatia176 Posts
June 18 2010 16:20 GMT
#33
On June 18 2010 13:55 heyoka wrote:
I find I play a lot worse against people I don't know. Laddering is okay but its really nothing like playing with a group of friends, they're completely different experiences and playing friends is far superior.


That really was the reason why everyone was bashing Blizzard for no LAN support. There is no supstitute for in house gaming with sibblings or friends )
WhistlingMtn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States190 Posts
June 18 2010 17:28 GMT
#34
I agree, I lost all interest in 1v1s after about 250 games in brood war ( and it wasn't because I was losing more than winning, I won WAY more than I lost ). I still love playing 2v2 with people I knew, and I basically have to play random or I get bored so quickly.

Find someone you know and play 2v2s, but don't take it seriously to the point that a loss upsets you. Be willing to try crazy strategies.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 17:36:39
June 18 2010 17:36 GMT
#35
Playing with people you know is more fun, but ladder can be fun too if you do more interesting strategis, rather than playing to win with standard builds over and over.

Very good read though
Life is Good.
WhistlingMtn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States190 Posts
June 18 2010 17:39 GMT
#36
On June 18 2010 19:50 fishyjoes wrote:
5/5

Maybe they should include another option for ladder. "Play series games." You would choose between Bo3, Bo5 and Bo7 and you will be matched against an random opponent of your rank just like in a normal ladder match but BNet will make you two play for 3-7 games in a row. Sounds fun to me.


I brought this up in an older thread, but I thought much about the concept of BNET tracking what times you play, and then matching you up in groups of 8 or 16 for a month with players at the same level who play at the same time. Facilitating a small group of players to get to know each other and play close games. Perhaps even having standings and a tournament at the end of the month.

A way in which people who don't have a lot of real life friends who play sc can develop a report with some new players.
Bey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
June 18 2010 18:35 GMT
#37
Absolutely agree. Adding the ability for auto-re and like a BO3/5 series to ladder games would be wonderful.

Another feature I would love is practice matchmaking. The matchmaking system is great, but I don't see why *every* game needs to be rated. If I just want to practice a BO or play a warmup game it would be great if I could automatically find an opponent (who was also looking for practice games) and not worry about the impact to my rating. And then, when I felt I was warmed-up, or understood the BO, I could hop on to the ladder and play with laser focus and intensity for a few games. Once I start to feel like I'm fading, I could switch back to practice because, fuck it, I love SC and want to keep playing without the stress. Right now, I actually find myself *avoiding* playing the game when I don't feel like I'm in peak shape (didn't sleep enough the night before, had a long day at work, etc.) because it ends up being a form of self-punishment to take those matches.
Do it. Do it right. Do it right now.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 19 2010 03:46 GMT
#38
none of my friends irl play starcraft so i had to end up playing strangers. laddering is good for people who actually want to get better though.
Brood War loyalist
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 19 2010 04:52 GMT
#39
Since I hate you too much to agree with you, I only wish to say that we are not rivals. We were never close and you will never be anywhere near me in skill. Your victory over me was undeserved and everyone knows that I am way better than you in every way possible
Trucy Wright is hot
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
June 19 2010 13:53 GMT
#40
Ok, this may cheer you up a bit, and perhaps see a different approach on this:

I live in Cuba, a country with multiple restrictions blah blah blah. I have never experienced a ladder or b.net experience in my life, so every time i play is with someone is a known of me, a fellow player or team member or whatever. Thats very cool, until one of this 2 things happen:

1- You try to improve your game, be better. You are playing with the same people, lets say you have 9 friends who are better/equal than you in BW. Cool, they are different race users and all, cool. The first week you get fuckin tired of playing the same style, the same openings, the same everything, hell, you cant even make a tournament cause the participants are your friends, and if not, then youre probably are gonna lose, since you are so accustomed to a close style in the matchups. Scratch all that, new thing, you became better. Do you think thats gonna bring your firends and you together? hell no, the low level players will stop playing with you or the other way around, you will only play with them once in a while. The other kind of friends will se you as competition, and fuck, since you guys keep chating ingame, arguments will arise more frequently that will lead to discussions about whose better etc, remember the fun times you had at first? gone, no you loose 2 games and become so angry you disconect.

2-Play once in a wihle with friends,holy shit thats fun......wait a minute......why the fuck this is so boring??!?!? ill tell ya, they kept playing BW and raped you so hard that 2 games is all youre gonna do before go play wow. Lets say, again, they they are the same as you, bff that play bw once in a while, thats actually cool, depending in how many plays or much time you wanna spend on the game -_-, even if you guys are fuckin soulmates and have everything the same, you will grow so tired of playing with them.........oh wait thats actually cool cause youre just a casual agmer but im not so this is very bad for me T_T

There is only like 15 gosu players here and im so tired of playing vs them...............
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
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