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I played a zvp on iccup a few min ago and god SC1 is still awesome.
So i'm doing fine, get hive tech n such, and then I'm only using ling ultra versus archon/zealot/temp and then reavers.
And I'm thinking, damn so many zealots, how the hell did I deal with that before?
And then at the end of the game it hits me - there are lurkers in this game.
I was so used to SC2 I was just building lings, mutas, hydras, ultras and devourers lol. LURRKEERRRRRR
anyone find themselves doing things like this after playing a few SC1 games after the SC2 beta phase 1?
   
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On June 12 2010 05:18 avilo wrote: I played a zvp on iccup a few min ago and god SC1 is still awesome.
So i'm doing fine, get hive tech n such, and then I'm only using ling ultra versus archon/zealot/temp and then reavers.
And I'm thinking, damn so many zealots, how the hell did I deal with that before?
And then at the end of the game it hits me - there are lurkers in this game.
I was so used to SC2 I was just building lings, mutas, hydras, ultras and devourers lol. LURRKEERRRRRR
anyone find themselves doing things like this after playing a few SC1 games after the SC2 beta phase 1? You use Devourers vP? You're a lot braver than I am. Edit:
On June 12 2010 05:24 Latham wrote:I keep hitting "v" to make overlords and I just cant get used to probes and pylons being "p" >  Also, everytime I go back to a hatch, I expect to find at least 4-5-6 larvae waiting there instead of 3... I do all of these Especially the larva thing, 'cuz my macro's terrible.
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i forgot about lurkers so i was playing with zealots and corsairs and then WTF i cant hit that shit
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I keep hitting "v" to make overlords and I just cant get used to probes and pylons being "p" >: ( Also, everytime I go back to a hatch, I expect to find at least 4-5-6 larvae waiting there instead of 3...
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I keep hitting o once to make 1 overlord, then i end up making 3.
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On June 12 2010 05:26 AssuredVacancy wrote: I keep hitting o once to make 1 overlord, then i end up making 3.
Haha, yeah that too. So used to having to hit 1 key for 1 larvae to use, that you're absolutely stunned that 3 overlords were just made.
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On June 12 2010 05:24 Latham wrote: I keep hitting "v" to make overlords and I just cant get used to probes and pylons being "p" >: ( Also, everytime I go back to a hatch, I expect to find at least 4-5-6 larvae waiting there instead of 3...
omg i keep doing this too lofl. Then I click "O" and am like FUCK I just built 3 at once @_@
On June 12 2010 05:26 AssuredVacancy wrote: I keep hitting o once to make 1 overlord, then i end up making 3.
I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
On June 12 2010 05:23 MutaDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 05:18 avilo wrote: I played a zvp on iccup a few min ago and god SC1 is still awesome.
So i'm doing fine, get hive tech n such, and then I'm only using ling ultra versus archon/zealot/temp and then reavers.
And I'm thinking, damn so many zealots, how the hell did I deal with that before?
And then at the end of the game it hits me - there are lurkers in this game.
I was so used to SC2 I was just building lings, mutas, hydras, ultras and devourers lol. LURRKEERRRRRR
anyone find themselves doing things like this after playing a few SC1 games after the SC2 beta phase 1? You use Devourers vP? You're a lot braver than I am. Edit: Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 05:24 Latham wrote:I keep hitting "v" to make overlords and I just cant get used to probes and pylons being "p" >  Also, everytime I go back to a hatch, I expect to find at least 4-5-6 larvae waiting there instead of 3... I do all of these  Especially the larva thing, 'cuz my macro's terrible.
+3 armor devourers have always raped sairs it went to late game and he was starting to mass em, so I got some devourer. 
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In my first game back to sc1, I kept using "v" for overlord. This resulted in me being stuck at 18/18 for about 2 minutes. When I realized what was going on, I corrected the hotkey, but I forgot that the smart larvae system is gone, so I made 3 overlords instead of 1. Went from 18/18 to 18/42 I think.
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Calgary25966 Posts
1. I kept freaking out because the building outline doesn't show when a worker is moving to build something. 2. I kept grabbing multiple Drones to build a single building. 3. I was appalled at the until AI. One unit was attacking while 4-5 ran back and forth. 4. I tried to select a screen full of units. 5. I can't stack Mutas well anymore. 6. I tried to unload with D. 7. I tried to make an Overlord with V. 8. I tried to press ctrl+f1.
I'm broken at this game now.
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yea, I did all of the things you did chill lol
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Weird I'm playing pretty much like I used to (just a tad worse) but my macro seems to be better for some reason its just my micro that blows compared to before, my muta micro is sooo shitty now once I get that back to where that was I'll get to C/C+ np .
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I lost a TvP
Wait I always lost those anyway. Life continues on.~~
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On June 12 2010 05:26 AssuredVacancy wrote: I keep hitting o once to make 1 overlord, then i end up making 3.
Man.. the first game i played after the beta went down as zerg i literally lost because i was at like 30/80 pop or something stupid like that because every singel time i built 3 overlords.
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United States24600 Posts
Haha. I haven't played bw once since sc2 because I was afraid of this problem :p
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Yeah but how sweet is it to have scourge back in your life? Didn't realize how badly I missed the little fellas...
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I racked up 1200 minerals and went for mutas vs Protoss. In one game.
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My mechanics are so bad right now T.T The apm is still similar but it is extremely sloppy at all times. I just throw production facilities everywhere and it's such a pain to macro. Half my gateways are nicely bunched and the other half surround the perimeter of my base. I'm actually having a hard time with D+...
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On June 12 2010 05:31 Chill wrote:1. I kept freaking out because the building outline doesn't show when a worker is moving to build something. 2. I kept grabbing multiple Drones to build a single building. 3. I was appalled at the until AI. One unit was attacking while 4-5 ran back and forth. 4. I tried to select a screen full of units. 5. I can't stack Mutas well anymore. 6. I tried to unload with D. 7. I tried to make an Overlord with V. 8. I tried to press ctrl+f1. I'm broken at this game now.  9. I waste all my storms in one location because no smart casting. 10. I try to stim my marines when grouped with medics + tanks + vessels 11. I try to go hydras against mnm. 12. I try to hold alt to locate low HP enemy units. 13. I get ghosts to EMP Protoss.
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On June 12 2010 06:03 KawaiiRice wrote: I lost a TvP
Wait I always lost those anyway. Life continues on.~~
KawaiiRice mod: asdf? KawaiiRice mod: tada. KawaiiRice mod: now NOBODY CAN TROLL ME KawaiiRice mod: WUT. KawaiiRice mod: t('.'t) KawaiiRice mod: eat shit protoss newbies
:DD Sorry, I couldn't stop myself. On topic: 1. Trying to build multiple buildings with shift 2. "E" instead of "P" as protoss 3. Hitting hotkey for obs when I have only robotics facility The list goes on. :DD
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Wow, what the fuck happened.
My muta micro has just gone down the drain completely. My mouse settings are so fucked up, its hyper sensitive because i did a bunch of changes to it for sc2 and i dont feel like messing with it again. I keep building 3 overlords instead of 1, units are retarded when attacking and moving.
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whenever I play terran I still try to build addons with x and scanner with o =D
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I play too much starcraft. No.
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On June 12 2010 08:03 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 05:31 Chill wrote:1. I kept freaking out because the building outline doesn't show when a worker is moving to build something. 2. I kept grabbing multiple Drones to build a single building. 3. I was appalled at the until AI. One unit was attacking while 4-5 ran back and forth. 4. I tried to select a screen full of units. 5. I can't stack Mutas well anymore. 6. I tried to unload with D. 7. I tried to make an Overlord with V. 8. I tried to press ctrl+f1. I'm broken at this game now.  9. I waste all my storms in one location because no smart casting. 10. I try to stim my marines when grouped with medics + tanks + vessels 11. I try to go hydras against mnm. 12. I try to hold alt to locate low HP enemy units. 13. I get ghosts to EMP Protoss.
14. Siege tanks cannot take on dragoons while unsieged. 15. Overlords take forever to build
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Just played an iccup game yesterday.
Do you realize how crappy dragoon AI is? -.-x
had half of them crossing the ramp, other half going around the cliff.
:X
come back sc2
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I kept spamming e for Probes, and for some reason they never built. Same thing with pylons
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Lol I'll never forget about Lurkers. When I think BW I think Lurkers and how awesome they are. Ohhhh Broodwar, you always make me feel good. :D
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HA! I'm playing only slightly worse than usualy purely because of micro problems, bad macro, or shitty timings as usual. Oh wait thats just about everything isnt it...
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Never really got into the beta (didn't get a key -_-) so this wasn't a problem for me lol... I can see why it'd throw you though.
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On June 12 2010 05:31 Chill wrote:1. I kept freaking out because the building outline doesn't show when a worker is moving to build something. 2. I kept grabbing multiple Drones to build a single building. 3. I was appalled at the until AI. One unit was attacking while 4-5 ran back and forth. 4. I tried to select a screen full of units. 5. I can't stack Mutas well anymore. 6. I tried to unload with D. 7. I tried to make an Overlord with V. 8. I tried to press ctrl+f1. I'm broken at this game now.  Don't worry Chill, just do what I did! Re-Read every single guide to star craft 1 you've written/read in your entire career of SC. Specifically the recommended guides and liquipedia!
edit: O and, I got my APM to go up to a max of 65 on the BWchart after switching and got my average to raise too! So SCII switch back to SCI helped me =)
![[image loading]](http://www.repdepot.net/img/thumbs/35797.jpg)
+ Show Spoiler +(Warning: may contain way too much gloat lol) I am even better at cheesing and killed some kid with a 5pylon 5 gate rush against his standard 1gate goon(I knew the build and if it weren't for my zeals starting to kill his pylon powering his gate he would have gone to 2 gate goon, which would've killed me) I posted the rep on repdepot earlier so I'll search for it soon but anyways... ya I won because I started rallying to a place somewhat hidden from his choke and tried to hide 2 zeals to backstab his base with while he pushed into my zeals rallying to his base but he killed one of them and never saw the other so he kept pushing out and I got to destroy his economy with 1 zeal(he got like 5-6 probe kills!!!!) and destroy his goons with the rest of my zeals.
I really don't get why you guys are having so much trouble with the switch lol.
edit3: I'm playing this and SC during the break from SCII! I'm also constently sending blizz letters about how they should make better desicions during my discouraged free time(Just lost to cpu campaign of Wesnoth/ just lost to 3 hackers on b.net#1.
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When I first read the thread title, I was like "What? Lurkers don't post, of course you forget about them...-OWAIT"
...Yeah.
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Ugh moving to SC1 was a big dissapoint all over. I was so bad on iCCup!
But I got tons of tips and op irc is looking very lively again <3
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I'm terrible at SC1 now. ( I was D to D+, but now i'm probably low D- now LOL ) 1. I always have idle scvs in the beginning of the game because i expect them to automine. 2. I freak out when i can't select more than 1 building. ( I am much more prone to frustration when i have to set a rally point for each factory individually.) 3. I try to select more than 12 units. And then remember it's SC1 2 minutes later. 4. When i press to build an add on, i expect it to auto build without you telling it where to build it.
SC2 has lowered my skill considerably. =(
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