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ffs, ladder system actually works

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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 02 2010 06:31 GMT
#1
so i was getting semi tired of high level sc. that is, i wanted to relax and play some casual games ... low apm ... try weird ass stats, etc.

i lost all my placement matches and got placed into bronze, but since then, i've been progressively ranked up. i've tried to purposefully hold a 50% win rate but the next thing i know, i'm in gold.

i miss playing with the bronze players. not because they are easy to beat - i'm not that kind of jackass. its kinda neat you get to control the games at a reasonable pace for them, teach them a thing here or there, pull out crazy spells and stuff you might've not tried in higher level games (mass hallucinate units ever so fun).

but alas .. back into gold, back facing plat/diam players, back to raping my fingers with hotkeys and numerous brain aneurysms.

*
starleague forever
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 02 2010 06:37 GMT
#2
Haha just get better and you can do that no problem with higher ups as well. I can fuck with any Platinum player and usually most low ranked Diamond players without any fear of actually losing. And I mean completely dicking around, such as massing ravens to use their auto-turrets, etc. Control the pace of the game by using the bear minimum to defend (Zerg SC1 mentality) while devoting the rest of hte resources to make an even stronger economy and bust out some really high tier units.

Play customs! You'll find tons of bronze/silver/gold players there .

P.S. Not a bragging post, just saying any Diamond player could completely 100% control the pace of the game with a gold level player the same way you can do that with a bronze.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 02 2010 07:00 GMT
#3
hahah fabled took the words from my mouth :O
diamond is D+ and up XD
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
June 02 2010 07:07 GMT
#4
YOU SMURF.

Alas, my fun must end also
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 07:28:07
June 02 2010 07:27 GMT
#5
Diamond is D and up, D+ is top 5 diamond.

Bronze/Silver/Gold are really just noobs around the same level, platinum has noobs that kind of know what they are doing, and diamond has a ton of noobs, less good players, and very few great players.

I hate the ladder system, the skill difference between them should be more noticeable and a lot harder to rank up.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
June 02 2010 11:41 GMT
#6
On June 02 2010 16:27 superbabosheki wrote:
Diamond is D and up, D+ is top 5 diamond.

Bronze/Silver/Gold are really just noobs around the same level, platinum has noobs that kind of know what they are doing, and diamond has a ton of noobs, less good players, and very few great players.

I hate the ladder system, the skill difference between them should be more noticeable and a lot harder to rank up.


I think everyone should start at the bottom of the ladder. You can get lucky in placements and end up in Diamond. When everyone starts at the bottom it will be more wide spread.
this game is a fucking jokie
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 02 2010 14:06 GMT
#7
To rank up, do you need to be at the top (1st) of your league?
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
June 02 2010 17:21 GMT
#8
On June 02 2010 16:27 superbabosheki wrote:
Diamond is D and up, D+ is top 5 diamond.

Bronze/Silver/Gold are really just noobs around the same level, platinum has noobs that kind of know what they are doing, and diamond has a ton of noobs, less good players, and very few great players.

I hate the ladder system, the skill difference between them should be more noticeable and a lot harder to rank up.


I think you're misunderstanding. The league system is there to give a nice shiny medal to those who don't know they suck. For the people that actually do care about their ICCup equivalent, they have your total score inside the diamond league. For the C and up players they will also have the Pro league to further separate the top of diamond from the bottom, we just aren't seeing that yet.

Let the game release please first before you "hate" anything.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 02 2010 17:38 GMT
#9
I think people are highly overstating "Diamond is D and up." Yeah, being in Diamond isn't anything exceptional, but the people top 5 in Diamond I would argue were definitely above the equivalence of a D+ in SC1.
Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
June 02 2010 18:41 GMT
#10
On June 02 2010 23:06 FreeZEternal wrote:
To rank up, do you need to be at the top (1st) of your league?


Nope, I've found that as long as you are really streaky with minimal losses you will get bumped up in no time. I found that even if you DO lose quite often you could still get bumped up if the majority of your wins are against higher ranking players. I've tested it in many ways having 2 accounts and I STILL can't comprehensively say I know that much more about it than most people. Hell, I've done 3-2 and placed in diamond in 2s this patch. Then I did 3-2 and placed silver in 3s. I have NO idea how that happened.
twitch.tv/setz3r
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20162 Posts
June 02 2010 20:18 GMT
#11
On June 02 2010 23:06 FreeZEternal wrote:
To rank up, do you need to be at the top (1st) of your league?


No, i've been bumped multiple leagues before.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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