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Ultralisks are actually amazing.

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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 21:19:34
May 15 2010 21:19 GMT
#1
I am so tired of seeing people whine about how bad ultralisks are, so LETS DO SOME TESTS. Thanks to the handy dandy unit tester by Xdragon (i think) I will now be streaming tests of the ultralisk vs other unit mixes to prove that in fact it rapes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Wr3k

Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 15 2010 21:23 GMT
#2
Much better, let's make an exhibit of a games where you successfully use Ultralisk in an actual game. That would be more awesome irrefutable argument.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 15 2010 21:27 GMT
#3
On May 16 2010 06:23 Hesmyrr wrote:
Much better, let's make an exhibit of a games where you successfully use Ultralisk in an actual game. That would be more awesome irrefutable argument.


Alright
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
May 15 2010 21:31 GMT
#4
Whoa, where is this unit tester from? Can you link it for me?
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
May 15 2010 21:33 GMT
#5
So I heard small arena maps are representative of real games.


Especially with zero micro going on.

I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 21:46:26
May 15 2010 21:35 GMT
#6
wow your ultras beat a bunch of stalkers half your size that are backed against a wall with no ff and no blink micro and no kiting, and the stalkers almost won, so "amazing"
How do you mine minerals?
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
May 15 2010 21:38 GMT
#7
well...carriers are awesome too...but there is reason why it is not widely used "yet"
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 15 2010 21:39 GMT
#8
On May 16 2010 06:33 Shade692003 wrote:
So I heard small arena maps are representative of real games.


Especially with zero micro going on.


Well, the OP agreed to run real-life simulations, but I only see some kind of music video when I try to look at the channel. Am I the only one having this problem?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
May 15 2010 21:40 GMT
#9
I'm sure you could also make scenarios where the carriers wins alot per cost. This is extremely narrow minded from a real game. All you do is pitch units without considering building time, tech cost, tech time, vulnerability to timing attacks, and no micro against stalkers backed to a corner of a arena map, seriously?
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
May 15 2010 21:44 GMT
#10
Ultras vs marauders gogogo
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 21:56:33
May 15 2010 21:55 GMT
#11
I'm watching the stream right now. I gotta see it to believe it (Especially against lategame TERRAN).
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 15 2010 22:04 GMT
#12
So how is it, did he reveal revolutionary Ultralisk build yet?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 22:06:39
May 15 2010 22:06 GMT
#13
On May 16 2010 07:04 Hesmyrr wrote:
So how is it, did he reveal revolutionary Ultralisk build yet?


I think wrecks the one with the already weird ultra build of building mass queens for transfusion. I'd love to see a transition from a more standard opening though.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 15 2010 22:34 GMT
#14
lol... Okay, so he initially had a hydra/ling/roach army, and transitioned into ultralisks + hydra/roach against a mech ball. The terran's tank spread was terrible, and wreck generally outmacroed him, but he annihilated him with the ultras lol. In the last part he even went so far as to split his army in half, his hydras/roaches killing the terran's gold expansion while his 8 or so ultralisks took out terran's nat which was fortified with about 15 hellions, and 8 tanks? Dang... From watching his games it's definitely a viable alternative to putting BLs in your army (which I find boring).
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
May 15 2010 22:34 GMT
#15
On May 16 2010 06:33 Shade692003 wrote:
So I heard small arena maps are representative of real games.


Especially with zero micro going on.



well to be fair a person with the ultras is just going to go a move afk cuz rofl ultras dont need micro

and the person defending is just going to a move afk cuz rofl ultras suck
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
May 15 2010 22:35 GMT
#16
It might actually work vs copper players
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
nibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United Kingdom179 Posts
May 15 2010 22:52 GMT
#17
that was entertaining, keep going
meh
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 15 2010 22:52 GMT
#18
On May 16 2010 07:35 condoriano wrote:
It might actually work vs copper players


Out of the last 5 games I've played, I killed 3 of them with ultras, two players were 1950+
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 15 2010 22:53 GMT
#19
On May 16 2010 07:35 condoriano wrote:
It might actually work vs copper players


? he's 1900 plat


I just watched 1 game but you were just so superior that it didnt convince me that for example brood lords wouldnt have been better, and the Ts micro and macro just looked very weak

I'll keep watching
beep boop
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 22:54:47
May 15 2010 22:53 GMT
#20
On May 16 2010 07:52 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 07:35 condoriano wrote:
It might actually work vs copper players


Out of the last 5 games I've played, I killed 3 of them with ultras, two players were 1950+


Well i watched your stream, last guy was asking for tips

Of course you can use them, but ppl you've played put 2 tanks in front of their marauder army

try ultra vs late game terran where he has complete army, preferably with >10 siege tanks
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
May 15 2010 22:58 GMT
#21
On May 16 2010 07:34 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 06:33 Shade692003 wrote:
So I heard small arena maps are representative of real games.


Especially with zero micro going on.



well to be fair a person with the ultras is just going to go a move afk cuz rofl ultras dont need micro

and the person defending is just going to a move afk cuz rofl ultras suck


....I was not referring to the ultras, I was referring to the enemy army in the testing map. A bunch of stalkers standing there backed in a corner waiting to be raped by the AOE of the ultras.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 23:07:34
May 15 2010 23:06 GMT
#22
see the game you played ultra melted to tanks and you actually got lucky with attacking it from behind, he didn't have a shield there

edit: nice manners gging and not leaving rofl
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 16 2010 00:08 GMT
#23
On May 16 2010 08:06 condoriano wrote:
see the game you played ultra melted to tanks and you actually got lucky with attacking it from behind, he didn't have a shield there

edit: nice manners gging and not leaving rofl


I didn't leave because I wanted to see if I could break his push, and almost did. I GG'ed too early and realized it, its not like I was trying to waste his time.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 16 2010 01:10 GMT
#24
the main reason they suck is maurauders and force fields. if they don't have either of those then ultras have potential.
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