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Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
May 11 2010 21:51 GMT
#1
So I have been playing the beta for 3 days now and have reached rank 1 in my division.
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I've never gotten higher than D+ on ICCup but still it only took me three days to get highest rank in my division. I'm very surprised about how easy it was to get this high in the ranking, I really thought that there would be a lot more good players at the top since it seemed like BW had loads of players who were a lot better than me.

I have no idea about how one is able to be as low a copper or something like that, you would have to not make a single unit or something. The skill ceiling seems to be incredibly low atm.

I didn't really think that such things as mechanics were a plus to a game before I played SC2. I have always thought that BW was too hard mechanically since there are just so many funny strategies that could be pulled of but its simply not humanly possible. Even Jaedong cant incorporate queens in his army since its just so hard to pull of. Even though ensnare is a very use full ability against pretty much all races. So I think it would be great if a game such as BW gets are more newb friendly successor, but it just seems like a complete noob fest to me. Even I can macro fine off four bases.

This atleast seems to be my first impression of the game. I really hope that these concerns will show to be meaningless when top players start to figure the game out for real.
I really hope that SC2 is going to be a huge success with a super high skill ceiling, so I'm anxious to see how the game will be at release. For now I'm just going to keep playing this game because its so much fun :D it definitely holds a lot of potential, but please make this game a game were the best players in the world get to be on TV so I can look in awe. Everything else would be so sad.

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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 11 2010 21:52 GMT
#2
Really platinum ranking does not mean shit. What is better for evaluation of your skill is your ELO rating. I'm around 1300 and cruising in the 30-40's. It gets harder.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
May 11 2010 21:54 GMT
#3
Many Blizzard fans registered for beta keys and got them. They probably aren't used to the level of mechanics needed in the SC series. I think anyone who can macro at a D+/C- level has the mechanical skill to make it into a platinum league. As for being number one, you likely got placed into a platinum league without other good players.
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Mumblee
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada256 Posts
May 11 2010 21:55 GMT
#4
1300 ELO is pretty low.
Atreides-
Profile Joined June 2009
United States103 Posts
May 11 2010 21:55 GMT
#5
Surprised you made it there with that rating / record...in my division, rank 1 is like 2050 rating >_>
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 11 2010 21:58 GMT
#6
@OP

How did you do on your placement matches?
5-0 ?
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k20a
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada412 Posts
May 11 2010 21:58 GMT
#7
#1 in mine is 1950~, I'm sitting at 1700+
"It's like that one time Luke Skywalker threw the ring in to Mordor to kill Hitler, or something" - Tasteless
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
May 11 2010 21:59 GMT
#8
Copper is for players who are just picking up the game. Like, you pull in a random friend and make him play the game while telling him what to do. He'll end up in copper. There are many things you take for granted at a D level player such as using hotkeys and macroing decently that's extremely hard for a complete newbie who's coming from, say, WoW. I agree that the skill ceiling is low, but I think it was meant to be low, since the game is supposed to bring together the pros, the low money map players, the BGH players, the FPM players, the UMS players, the WC3 players, the CS players, the DotA players, the WoW players, the casual gamers, etc. all together in one ladder.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
May 11 2010 22:01 GMT
#9
Sorry to say this but you did get a bit lucky
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
May 11 2010 22:02 GMT
#10
the way its set up, new divisions keep opening up within plat so the new players that come in only have 1k rating. And they are younger so it takes a while for that division to mature
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
May 11 2010 22:03 GMT
#11
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless...
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
May 11 2010 22:04 GMT
#12
Also, it seems like you haven't hit your skill ceiling yet, which will definitely happen since there are many experienced players in the higher levels of platinum. If you can get to 2000+ ELO, you can, as a D+ iCCup player, honestly say that SC2 has a low skill ceiling. Otherwise, I don't think so...
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
May 11 2010 22:10 GMT
#13
On May 12 2010 07:03 Chill wrote:
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless...

but we get bragging rights vs our rl friends who cant see our ELOs
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 11 2010 22:10 GMT
#14
hmmmm a 1287 in my division would get you rank #32
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Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
May 11 2010 22:17 GMT
#15
this is exactly why division ranks mean shit lol
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 11 2010 22:17 GMT
#16
On May 12 2010 07:03 Chill wrote:
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless...


...unless you're #1 in copper. Means you're really bad.
No I'm never serious.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
May 11 2010 22:19 GMT
#17
On May 12 2010 07:03 Chill wrote:
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless...

YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
May 11 2010 22:19 GMT
#18
That ELO is nothing special and besides, the ladder right now is pretty easy as anybody with ANY iccup broodwar experience is in platinum. I'm rank 18 plat too with a decent (1400) ELO but I was still raped by people like kawaiirice when I faced them in placement.
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
May 11 2010 22:33 GMT
#19
Like everyone else has said, sitting at 1290 ELO is really low, and only equalivalent to #40 in my division. That means you are not even playing any of the good players yet, and probably not even any decent ones either. Once you get to 1600 you start facing competent players, and anything over 1800 becomes quite a challenge. At 1290 plat you are probably still playing gold players as well =\
Enfold
Profile Joined March 2010
United States110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 22:35:56
May 11 2010 22:35 GMT
#20
I'm going to have to agree with everyone else. Divisions don't matter too much, what really matters is the ELO. I am around 1600, and the people I play now compared to when I was around 1300 are much much much better.
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