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Washington, D.C9934 Posts
On May 12 2010 08:13 Chronopolis wrote:
Does any one here think think that the divisions will "un-inflate" once SC2 goes public? Like getting and staying in platnium will actually be a credible achievement? i think it will actually become more inflated following its release, until at least the player base cements and the game starts being figured out. basically any TL member is going to get to gold or platinum as it is with a beta sample size right now of mostly gamers (even if they are wow players). seems like the relative skill of a broodwar veteran will be even higher compared to the general public's.
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On May 12 2010 09:09 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 07:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Platinum 1100-1200 is about the same as D+. u wrong i think its like C- D/D+ same as Gold almost 1200 C-/C/C+ like 1200-1500 B-/B/B+ like 1500-1900 A-/A/A+ like 2000+
trying to make comparisons like that is dumb... I can get 2000+ on the sc2 ladder no problem and I'm not even close to being A- skilled in bw
also, OP, I don't think you realize what an accomplishment getting to D+ on icucp is. That means you're better than most people who have ever played bw. Also, your elo or w/e it's called isn't even 1300 which is pretty low. In most divisions I don't think that'd even be top 20.
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On May 12 2010 09:18 Grobyc wrote:
As long as you can win ~50% of the time in platinum getting a good rank is just a matter of how many games you play imo.
but thats the same way it was on iccup. i had an 80% at low D, 70% high D, then suddenly bumped down to 50% D+, yet still ranking up until C-, where i'm not even 20%. if i were to play 1/5 of the games i did, i'd still be borderline D+.
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I feel like the most noobie player in the world after reading this thread. I was C- Iccup but i'm 9-9 in silver league right now after about 1 week of play time. I mean I haven't gotten my Bo's down or learned all the unit counters but I mean damn... silver league really.
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On May 12 2010 07:03 Chill wrote:
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless...
To be fair, being number one in my division would mean that I'm better than Idra.
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United States1719 Posts
On May 12 2010 09:09 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 07:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Platinum 1100-1200 is about the same as D+. u wrong i think its like C- D/D+ same as Gold almost 1200 C-/C/C+ like 1200-1500 B-/B/B+ like 1500-1900 A-/A/A+ like 2000+
This is totally wrong. Anywhere below 1600 plat is iccup D-/D range, I can safely say, as I am 1650 plat and never got out of D on iccup.
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I think there's enough players that in gold the skill level is all over the place. I've played people who barely have a clue how to play the game, then I ran into a rough patch of 10 games where pretty much everyone was a lot better than me. Best I ever did was low D+ on iccup. Still going to hit platinum at the rate I'm going...
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On May 12 2010 09:09 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 07:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Platinum 1100-1200 is about the same as D+. u wrong i think its like C- D/D+ same as Gold almost 1200 C-/C/C+ like 1200-1500 B-/B/B+ like 1500-1900 A-/A/A+ like 2000+
for sure off, i know c- people that are over 2k elo
and d+ players that are pretty close to that
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On May 12 2010 11:05 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 09:09 Re-Play- wrote:On May 12 2010 07:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Platinum 1100-1200 is about the same as D+. u wrong i think its like C- D/D+ same as Gold almost 1200 C-/C/C+ like 1200-1500 B-/B/B+ like 1500-1900 A-/A/A+ like 2000+ for sure off, i know c- people that are over 2k elo and d+ players that are pretty close to that
And then there are B rank people who are around 1500. Or even gold. iCCup rank has a terrible correlation with SC2 ELO.
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On May 12 2010 09:50 Hypnotikdel wrote:
I feel like the most noobie player in the world after reading this thread. I was C- Iccup but i'm 9-9 in silver league right now after about 1 week of play time. I mean I haven't gotten my Bo's down or learned all the unit counters but I mean damn... silver league really.
You can go to C- by 4-pooling or 10/15 gating or something like that. On the other hand you can have a solid grasp of the fundamentals at D+, which will translate so much better into SC2.
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On May 12 2010 09:52 hype[NZ] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 07:03 Chill wrote:
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless... To be fair, being number one in my division would mean that I'm better than Idra.
No it could just mean you played a whole lot more games
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On May 12 2010 08:32 AmIGoingToGetBanned wrote:
Are you fucking serious? I just lost four times in a row with a fucking KOR group with names like wihdsd18999 or some shit, then I got smashed by this kid who went Baneling rush, BANELING RUSH, WHAT THE FUCK.
It makes me laugh every time a newer poster complains about losing to koreans. It's like they're aliens.
On May 12 2010 11:05 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 09:09 Re-Play- wrote:On May 12 2010 07:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Platinum 1100-1200 is about the same as D+. u wrong i think its like C- D/D+ same as Gold almost 1200 C-/C/C+ like 1200-1500 B-/B/B+ like 1500-1900 A-/A/A+ like 2000+ for sure off, i know c- people that are over 2k elo and d+ players that are pretty close to that
I don't think he's trying to say that people who were X rank on ICCup will be X Elo in SC2. I think he's just drawing a parallel between the ranking systems as far as how good you are compared to everyone else - i.e, anything below upper gold is just a bnetter, then that's his idea of the ranking correlation.
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The rankings on iccup aren't going to translate well because a huge factor in your iccup ranking was your ability to macro without automine and mbs. Even I can macro on sc2... Now its about gamesense, scouting, timing, and micro (although there isn't enough of the latter if you ask me).
These were factors in sc1, but only once you had excellent mechanics. Now these are the exclusive factors so you are going to see a lot of people who relied on mechanics dropping down, and a lot of people who had excellent gamesense but not good enough mechanics moving up.
It's a good thing if you ask me.
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On May 12 2010 09:52 hype[NZ] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 07:03 Chill wrote:
Being #1 in your division is basically meaningless... To be fair, being number one in my division would mean that I'm better than Idra.
Which is basically meaningless.
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You'd be surprised how much more meaningful platinum is on the asian server
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On May 12 2010 11:12 Saracen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 11:05 Divinek wrote:On May 12 2010 09:09 Re-Play- wrote:On May 12 2010 07:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Platinum 1100-1200 is about the same as D+. u wrong i think its like C- D/D+ same as Gold almost 1200 C-/C/C+ like 1200-1500 B-/B/B+ like 1500-1900 A-/A/A+ like 2000+ for sure off, i know c- people that are over 2k elo and d+ players that are pretty close to that And then there are B rank people who are around 1500. Or even gold. iCCup rank has a terrible correlation with SC2 ELO.
Please name a few of the B players that are at 1500 while not messing around playing random and it's their 2nd day on sc2. Actually, show me those, they should still be above 1500.
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Wow why are you guys shitting on this newb's blog, lol... =P let him have his moment.
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Hungary11305 Posts
On May 12 2010 11:46 n.DieJokes wrote:
poor aesop
I was just sent to Platinum, nothing to pity me for  . Will take over #1 soon enough.
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I was a High C- low C player in BW currently gold league, still exploring strategies and stuff but I can safely say I've never lost a single game due to mechanics yet.
That and voidrays means that I've almost never lose to Terran/Zergs. LOL
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