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Why i hate SC2 (longer version) - Page 4
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Equaoh
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Jusciax
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decemvre1
Romania51 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:23 Liquid`NonY wrote: Ah whatever. I just wrote 700 words explaining some shit but I was way too insulting during it. Here's the watered-down version: you don't understand StarCraft and you're bad. I'm guessing you aren't winning as many SC2 games as you would like and you can't figure out how to get an edge on your opponent. Not enough knowledge has trickled down from people with talent so your options are very limited. You have been spoiled by SC:BW. An enormous, absolutely huge, ridiculously large amount of effort has gone into making the play in SC:BW so spectacular. You expect it instantly from SC2. Thankfully, it's a different game. I suggest you put it aside for 5 years and then come back to it. Cya way to insulting ? are you kidding me ? insulting me for what ? for asking for a more demanding and fun game ? Seriously i was feeling angry at myself for having nothing better to do at 2AM than writing this; you have nothing better to do than to insult me? | ||
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Canada427 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:30 decemvre wrote: way to insulting ? are you kidding me ? insulting me for what ? for asking for a more demanding and fun game ? Seriously i was feeling angry at myself for having nothing better to do at 2AM than writing this; you have nothing better to do than to insult me? I think he's saying the game is fun and demanding and you seem unable to realize that. Your comments cheapen the skill of higher level players while you tout your 1700 points as if it means you're better than D+ in scbw. | ||
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Re-Play-
Dominican Republic825 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:30 decemvre wrote: way to insulting ? are you kidding me ? insulting me for what ? for asking for a more demanding and fun game ? Seriously i was feeling angry at myself for having nothing better to do at 2AM than writing this; you have nothing better to do than to insult me? just remember he is the one that was on korea, won tsl, he can insult u lol | ||
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Ursad0n
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On May 06 2010 08:30 decemvre wrote: way to insulting ? are you kidding me ? insulting me for what ? for asking for a more demanding and fun game ? Seriously i was feeling angry at myself for having nothing better to do at 2AM than writing this; you have nothing better to do than to insult me? Dude, u haven't read your post from the perspective of someone like Nony, a well known, high ass level player. Before u say you are asking for a "more demanding and fun game" think about how awful you are compared to him, and how expansive his knowledge is. You have played 1300 fucking games and u only have a rating of 1600-1700, that right there says you are bad. Also if you want ANYONE to listen to u, don't say shit like "you have nothing better to do than to insult me?" because 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people will side with Nony over you. And the .00000000000000000000000000000000000001% on your side is you, because of how insignificant your opinion is compared to the number of people who play Starcraft. | ||
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:45 Ursad0n wrote: Dude, u haven't read your post from the perspective of someone like Nony, a well known, high ass level player. Before u say you are asking for a "more demanding and fun game" think about how awful you are compared to him, and how expansive his knowledge is. You have played 1300 fucking games and u only have a rating of 1600-1700, that right there says you are bad. Also if you want ANYONE to listen to u, don't say shit like "you have nothing better to do than to insult me?" because 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people will side with Nony over you. And the .00000000000000000000000000000000000001% on your side is you, because of how insignificant your opinion is compared to the number of people who play Starcraft. man there are many bad BW players that are GOOD sc2 players... | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
how do you do doom drops or drop at all with 4+ transports? I have very very limited experience trying to do this but so far all of them always tend to try to drop in 1 spot and interrupt each other. TBH I agree about moving-shot... but I still need to test it myself before I will rage. I don't care about all of the other points because of what Aesop, Chill and NonY said and I am surprised you despise BattleCruiser, Carrier, Broodlord (isn't really bigger than Guardian) AND Ultralisk for being too big as if they aren't big in BW already. | ||
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decemvre1
Romania51 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:57 beetlelisk wrote: I guess this is a good thread to ask how do you do doom drops or drop at all with 4+ transports? I have very very limited experience trying to do this but so far all of them always tend to try to drop in 1 spot and interrupt each other. TBH I agree about moving-shot... but I still need to test it myself before I will rage. I don't care about all of the other points because of what Aesop, Chill and NonY said and I am surprised you despise BattleCruiser, Carrier, Broodlord (isn't really bigger than Guardian) AND Ultralisk for being too big as if they aren't big in BW already. the best way to drop while moving is to select 1 dropship at a time and click "drop-units" onto itself while its still moving. You have to do it very quickly though, the more dropships you have, the harder it is. | ||
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meteorskunk
Canada546 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:48 Re-Play- wrote: man there are many bad BW players that are GOOD sc2 players... That doesn't discredit nony's opinion. watching Nony's casting I see how he can spot it when a protoss could have won a battle if his control had been different. Things I still don't see. People are looking at this game like BW 1.5 instead of a fresh new rts. Yes a lot of the skills have become more intuitive, but blizzard did not intend for sc to ever be played at high apm. BW players began to improve mainly by increasing speed. This is not the way to improve right now. Thinking is. Its a a real time STRATEGY not a button pressing race(i still find use for the the control i learned from BW). The way i see it, is blizzard has made the learning curve less steep, but has not changed the game's essence. No you don't need to learn how to go to your gateways during battle and press z over all of them, but that is a very small thing. You still need timing, division of focus,creativity,foresight.accurate clicks. PS skilled micro =/= fun to watch imo. controlling scourge and muta is hard, watching zvz is not that fun a lot of the time. | ||
KwarK
United States44012 Posts
On May 06 2010 08:23 Liquid`NonY wrote: Ah whatever. I just wrote 700 words explaining some shit but I was way too insulting during it. Here's the watered-down version: you don't understand StarCraft and you're bad. I'm guessing you aren't winning as many SC2 games as you would like and you can't figure out how to get an edge on your opponent. Not enough knowledge has trickled down from people with talent so your options are very limited. You have been spoiled by SC:BW. An enormous, absolutely huge, ridiculously large amount of effort has gone into making the play in SC:BW so spectacular. You expect it instantly from SC2. Thankfully, it's a different game. I suggest you put it aside for 5 years and then come back to it. Cya I got the same impression from his rant. The reason I asked his iccup rank was to find out if it was bad and then subsequently humilitate him with a low apm thrashing. Whining is the egos way of avoiding dealing with the difference between how good people think they are and how few games they win. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On May 06 2010 09:01 decemvre wrote: the best way to drop while moving is to select 1 dropship at a time and click "drop-units" onto itself while its still moving. You have to do it very quickly though, the more dropships you have, the harder it is. Yeah but is there no equivalent of (using magic boxes and) clicking unload on top of your transports so all of them unload at the same time? This is not only about dropping while moving them but also dropping with more transports at all - is cloning the only way it can be done? | ||
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Ursad0n
United States523 Posts
On May 06 2010 09:12 meteorskunk wrote: That doesn't discredit nony's opinion. watching Nony's casting I see how he can spot it when a protoss could have won a battle if his control had been different. Things I still don't see. People are looking at this game like BW 1.5 instead of a fresh new rts. Yes a lot of the skills have become more intuitive, but blizzard did not intend for sc to ever be played at high apm. BW players began to improve mainly by increasing speed. This is not the way to improve right now. Thinking is. Its a a real time STRATEGY not a button pressing race(i still find use for the the control i learned from BW). The way i see it, is blizzard has made the learning curve less steep, but has not changed the game's essence. No you don't need to learn how to go to your gateways during battle and press z over all of them, but that is a very small thing. You still need timing, division of focus,creativity,foresight.accurate clicks. PS skilled micro =/= fun to watch imo. controlling scourge and muta is hard, watching zvz is not that fun a lot of the time. This kid put into words what i wish i could. Thread is done now, this post wins. :D | ||
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