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Moving Up in the World, Silver to Gold

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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
May 02 2010 05:03 GMT
#1
Note: This is the second installment of my blog from Copper to Platinum. Find the first one here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=121649

So, I got promoted to Gold today. I played 7 games, and won 5. This means I'm now 11-5. Which isn't great, but since I think 2 of my losses were caused by me not playing the game that I know... I more count it as 11-3.

Now, what was strange about those 7 games I played today, was that there were all ZvZ. That's right, I got 7 mirror games in a row.

This has shown me that I hate ZvZ, and for a simple reason... I hate the strategy that I use. 1 base -> defend with spine crawlers + queen + lings -> 2 base -> mass speed lings. This won me 5 games, and the only reason I lose 2 was because someone else did them better than I did.

There's something that I just dislike about being able to get 55-> 70 speed lings and beating someone who has teched up way way way further than I have.

Although, normally you would lose to say someone who went mutas as long as they get them out before your lings push. But after 7 games of ZvZ I have the timing down to be able to attack just as your spire comes out, so you have to choose between mutas and defending your base / making drones to replace all the ones you've lost.

This just doesn't seem like that great of a match up, massing lings and who ever wins the first big engagement wins because their lings massively out number your opponents... I mean I basically play ZvZ like "alright, lets survive until my natural gets up, then lets pump more speedlings" putting down 2 - 3 spine crawlers at each of my bases as I go...

I really hope this is now how all ZvZ's look. I mean seriously I even beat a #4 platinum player with this. There has to be a better strategy. I'm winning with it now, so I haven't been experimenting too much, which I really should be. But if mass speedlings is the end all be all of ZvZ, the tournement scene might look at little sad, since Speedling v Speedling only lasts about 9 minutes a game.

Now, not to make my whole post all about how I hate ZvZ right now... I'm lucky and a few of my friends have gotten beta keys, which means I have practice partners now. Finally, people to play with so that I can get better. Both of them are better than I am, so I'm hoping to improve a lot.

Already, my ZvP is getting A LOT stronger since playing with them (both are P players). This is awesome, since two gate rushes used to shut me down, these two got me playing with a more spine crawler heavy opening which leads into hydras or mutas depending on how fast they are getting air.

Still need help ZvT, but I haven't seen a lot of T on the ladder so far, usually just Z and P, I hope there are still some T players left out there.

So, in just two short playing periods I have made my way from Bronze to Silver, and then Silver to Gold, just one more step up to platinum to go.

#1 here I come.

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If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 02 2010 05:14 GMT
#2
Nice work keep it up dude. You'll be platinum in no time!
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
May 02 2010 05:34 GMT
#3
I sure hope so... once I hit platinum I hope that I can really start learning to play, instead of ROFLstomping the people I'm playing now... because well 20 APM and 9 drones is not enough for a 10min game (some of the people I've played against).
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 05:46:00
May 02 2010 05:43 GMT
#4
How long does it take to change divisions? After getting cheesed to death when being greedy in bronze and trying out builds (and playing random) I'm in copper. Now it's just really boring, because i"m just playing conservative, getting an army, stopping the impending rush, and expoing/attacking at the same time. I'm like 4-0 atm, and it only took like 25 minutes... (After being something like 12-16 in bronze and getting demoted)

Well, additionally I should add I was like high D on ICCUP, so I"m not a spectacular player... but better than all this junk i have to put up with...

Oh, and good luck dude =]
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 02 2010 07:12 GMT
#5
Pratice pratice pratice. You will be there in no time =)
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Vic.nQQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bulgaria88 Posts
May 02 2010 07:27 GMT
#6
Aren't banelings a pretty good way to counter lings? I haven't played many ZvZs being a P or R player, but it just seems that way from logical point of view / watching streams
I believe!
praetor.at
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Austria92 Posts
May 02 2010 09:51 GMT
#7
yeh banelings are insanely good vs lings. even a single one can cost the opponent so many lings in a split second so you can just a-move to victory. :D i always get my nest after lingspeed, and smile broadly when i see an evo in their base... (meaning +1a speedlings)
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
May 02 2010 14:39 GMT
#8
I don't usually see a lot of banelings, since I usually kill them around the 9min mark. At this point, I'm usually 2 base v their 1 base, and teching to hydras while they get mutas, but ya.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 15:43:02
May 02 2010 15:02 GMT
#9
It's taking forever for me to move up to Gold... I've played 39 games and I'm beating gold/platinum players fairly regularly (I've lost like 2 games out of the last 10 or more). I don't really get it, because I feel like very few games are challenging me at this point. I guess my internet was flaking out so I got 2-3 losses early on that I shouldn't have, and that made it look like I had a few really bad losses?

Be happy it promoted you quickly. >_>
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