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On April 30 2010 02:50 Eiserne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:48 micronesia wrote:On April 30 2010 02:40 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:39 micronesia wrote:On April 30 2010 02:37 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:34 TArujo wrote:On April 30 2010 02:22 Eiserne wrote:
Right now zerg is unbelievably strong against protoss. There's literally no way to win against mutalisks. really? close this please :/ Go make your own website if you wanna moderate, thanks. This is a blog, not a strategy thread. If you didn't realize, blogs are commonly about opinions. so if you have one of your own, there's a link next to your name at the top, and go make your own blog. Thanks. So if someone made a very similar blog about sc1 it would be okay? It wouldn't be so ridiculous that mods could just be like "what is this stupid shit lol CLOSED"? Obviously we are allowed to disagree but you have gone way too far with this blog and a lot of people are simply calling you out on it. Have I gone way too far? Let me know if there's a specific point you disagree with. the difference between this blog and a similar one about BW is that we've had 12 years to realize BW is perfect. This game, being very young, is the farthest thing from. It's evident in the design and ongoing balance that this game will never live up to the same standards as Brood War. I'm more than happy to play against you and or discuss actual points but I can't really say much to 'lol you're wrong' garbage post Parts I agree with at least 50%: Instead of just copy pasting, try qualifying any of your statements? Your post count does not grant you the right to post inanely.
Calling my post a garbage post certainly isn't a good way to get off on the right foot. You specifically asked me if there were any points I disagreed with; I picked the ones that I did. Ideally you would go through them and see if maybe you want to make any modifications to your points before I actually try to explain what things you are right/wrong about so we don't waste time but continuing to be horribly condescending to everyone is more entertaining in the short term I guess.
edit: Unless you stand by all your accusations of things being garbage, retarded, requiring not mental capabilities in order to understand, etc, in which case I won't argue it with you for the same reason why most other people are just writing you off.
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On April 30 2010 02:47 Eiserne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:44 Kralic wrote:BW is that we've had 12 years to realize BW is perfect. This game, being very young, is the farthest thing from. It's evident in the design and ongoing balance that this game will never live up to the same standards as Brood War. You do know at one point during the SC Betas Reavers did 250 damage... that got changed, give SC2 more beta time and see where the balance changes are going, they did a recent content patch, the big balance patch is going to be soon and by big I mean 3-5 changes. Unfortunately, this game doesn't have that long to wait. Think about modern gaming and how it's different from gaming 12 years ago. We would be much more patient in a beta 12 years ago, in a SC beta, when we didn't have something else to compare it to. It's hardly fair to blizzard but that's not my problem either. They don't have 5 years to balance this game, people will move on from it. Is what I'm saying clear? I'm not wording it very well.
Blizzard is never in a rush to release a game. I don't know why you think they are. They make their money when they release the product. They aren't bleeding money by keeping this game in beta, sure they are paying the development team but they have a lot of money stockpiled to sustain this for a very long time. The shareholders are all about the profits is true, too bad they have a gem like WoW to keep those shareholders very happy.
The sucess of e-sports doesn't rely on the game 100%. Blizzard can pump enough money into tournaments that grab the attention of the best players in the world that they will get sponsors who want their name on the tournaments. It can be called a "garbage" game by a few or a lot of people but if the money is there the game will go on.
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On April 30 2010 02:39 Eiserne wrote:
If you think you're better than me, Bo5 right now and when I 3-0, you can apologize.
No one will take you seriously if all you say is this. I agree with you on a lot of points, just your attitude needs some re-adjustment (so did my first post in here, my apologies)
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On April 30 2010 02:53 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:50 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:48 micronesia wrote:On April 30 2010 02:40 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:39 micronesia wrote:On April 30 2010 02:37 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:34 TArujo wrote:On April 30 2010 02:22 Eiserne wrote:
Right now zerg is unbelievably strong against protoss. There's literally no way to win against mutalisks. really? close this please :/ Go make your own website if you wanna moderate, thanks. This is a blog, not a strategy thread. If you didn't realize, blogs are commonly about opinions. so if you have one of your own, there's a link next to your name at the top, and go make your own blog. Thanks. So if someone made a very similar blog about sc1 it would be okay? It wouldn't be so ridiculous that mods could just be like "what is this stupid shit lol CLOSED"? Obviously we are allowed to disagree but you have gone way too far with this blog and a lot of people are simply calling you out on it. Have I gone way too far? Let me know if there's a specific point you disagree with. the difference between this blog and a similar one about BW is that we've had 12 years to realize BW is perfect. This game, being very young, is the farthest thing from. It's evident in the design and ongoing balance that this game will never live up to the same standards as Brood War. I'm more than happy to play against you and or discuss actual points but I can't really say much to 'lol you're wrong' garbage post Parts I agree with at least 50%: Instead of just copy pasting, try qualifying any of your statements? Your post count does not grant you the right to post inanely. Calling my post a garbage post certainly isn't a good way to get off on the right foot. You specifically asked me if there were any points I disagreed with; I picked the ones that I did. Ideally you would go through them and see if maybe you want to make any modifications to your points before I actually try to explain what things you are right/wrong about so we don't waste time but continuing to be horribly condescending to everyone is more entertaining in the short term I guess. edit: Unless you stand by all your accusations of things being garbage, retarded, requiring not mental capabilities in order to understand, etc, in which case I won't argue it with you for the same reason why most other people are just writing you off.
If you saw that post you wrote posted by someone with sub-100 posts on another thread, you'd expect them to be banned. It was a stupid post, basically just spam, without content, and demeaning. I qualified my statements. You just said I was wrong. Why is it ME that should make modifications to points that are uncontested? you've not contributed anything to the dialogue, so how it me that's being condescending? Again, your post count doesn't (read: shouldn't) grant you the right to post like a troll and demand respect.
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On April 30 2010 02:55 TwilightStar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:39 Eiserne wrote:
If you think you're better than me, Bo5 right now and when I 3-0, you can apologize. No one will take you seriously if all you say is this. I agree with you on a lot of points, just your attitude needs some re-adjustment (so did my first post in here, my apologies)
Lol man, you tell me -I- suck at this game, despite having never seen me play or knowing anything about my play at all, and you tell me my attitude needs re-adjustment? You should check that high horse you're riding. If you want to talk shit to somebody in their thread, at least have the balls to back it up. It's very common recently to talk shit to random people and then just disappear. I'm calling you out on it. If you wanna tell me I suck, prove it. Until you do, you're just another trash poster brought on by the wave of SC2 bandwagoneers.
Seriously, if you can't understand the irony and hypocrisy of your own statements...... well I just don't know what else to say.
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On April 30 2010 02:55 Kralic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:47 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:44 Kralic wrote:BW is that we've had 12 years to realize BW is perfect. This game, being very young, is the farthest thing from. It's evident in the design and ongoing balance that this game will never live up to the same standards as Brood War. You do know at one point during the SC Betas Reavers did 250 damage... that got changed, give SC2 more beta time and see where the balance changes are going, they did a recent content patch, the big balance patch is going to be soon and by big I mean 3-5 changes. Unfortunately, this game doesn't have that long to wait. Think about modern gaming and how it's different from gaming 12 years ago. We would be much more patient in a beta 12 years ago, in a SC beta, when we didn't have something else to compare it to. It's hardly fair to blizzard but that's not my problem either. They don't have 5 years to balance this game, people will move on from it. Is what I'm saying clear? I'm not wording it very well. Blizzard is never in a rush to release a game. I don't know why you think they are. They make their money when they release the product. They aren't bleeding money by keeping this game in beta, sure they are paying the development team but they have a lot of money stockpiled to sustain this for a very long time. The shareholders are all about the profits is true, too bad they have a gem like WoW to keep those shareholders very happy. The sucess of e-sports doesn't rely on the game 100%. Blizzard can pump enough money into tournaments that grab the attention of the best players in the world that they will get sponsors who want their name on the tournaments. It can be called a "garbage" game by a few or a lot of people but if the money is there the game will go on.
the fact that they have enough money to throw at the game doesn't mean they're designing a good game. And I guarantee you Blizzard wants to get this game on the market asap. I would be surprised if it came out later than the end of june. HIGHLY surprised.
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On April 30 2010 02:34 Eiserne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:33 spinesheath wrote:On April 30 2010 02:22 Eiserne wrote:
I'd be too humble if I said I wasn't really damn good at this game. I'd be cocky if I said I was one of the best, though.
Eh, so what's your league/rank/score/wins/losses then? Rank 1 platinum division 40 1500 elo (haven't had time to mass game beyond that.)
rofl. I was a 1700 platinum div 28 terran and I'm terrible. Go whine somewhere else please.
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On April 30 2010 02:58 Eiserne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:55 TwilightStar wrote:On April 30 2010 02:39 Eiserne wrote:
If you think you're better than me, Bo5 right now and when I 3-0, you can apologize. No one will take you seriously if all you say is this. I agree with you on a lot of points, just your attitude needs some re-adjustment (so did my first post in here, my apologies) Lol man, you tell me -I- suck at this game, despite having never seen me play or knowing anything about my play at all, and you tell me my attitude needs re-adjustment? You should check that high horse you're riding. If you want to talk shit to somebody in their thread, at least have the balls to back it up. It's very common recently to talk shit to random people and then just disappear. I'm calling you out on it. If you wanna tell me I suck, prove it. Until you do, you're just another trash poster brought on by the wave of SC2 bandwagoneers. Seriously, if you can't understand the irony and hypocrisy of your own statements...... well I just don't know what else to say.
Mmk, I'm not even going to bother with someone as ridiculously retarded as you. You had a few good points, but you are just too fucking idiotic to get them across effectively.
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What terrible? SC2 is a good game..
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On April 30 2010 03:02 TwilightStar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:58 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:55 TwilightStar wrote:On April 30 2010 02:39 Eiserne wrote:
If you think you're better than me, Bo5 right now and when I 3-0, you can apologize. No one will take you seriously if all you say is this. I agree with you on a lot of points, just your attitude needs some re-adjustment (so did my first post in here, my apologies) Lol man, you tell me -I- suck at this game, despite having never seen me play or knowing anything about my play at all, and you tell me my attitude needs re-adjustment? You should check that high horse you're riding. If you want to talk shit to somebody in their thread, at least have the balls to back it up. It's very common recently to talk shit to random people and then just disappear. I'm calling you out on it. If you wanna tell me I suck, prove it. Until you do, you're just another trash poster brought on by the wave of SC2 bandwagoneers. Seriously, if you can't understand the irony and hypocrisy of your own statements...... well I just don't know what else to say. Mmk, I'm not even going to bother with someone as ridiculously retarded as you. You had a few good points, but you are just too fucking idiotic to get them across effectively.
Right, that's the best way to prove you're smarter or better than someone, call them ridiculously retarded and too fucking idiotic because you... don't have anything left to say? Really? I'm waiting on bnet 2.0. Feel free to post your id and I'll prove my rank to you. Remember, you came in here talking shit about me, not the other way around.
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On April 30 2010 02:59 Eiserne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:55 Kralic wrote:On April 30 2010 02:47 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:44 Kralic wrote:BW is that we've had 12 years to realize BW is perfect. This game, being very young, is the farthest thing from. It's evident in the design and ongoing balance that this game will never live up to the same standards as Brood War. You do know at one point during the SC Betas Reavers did 250 damage... that got changed, give SC2 more beta time and see where the balance changes are going, they did a recent content patch, the big balance patch is going to be soon and by big I mean 3-5 changes. Unfortunately, this game doesn't have that long to wait. Think about modern gaming and how it's different from gaming 12 years ago. We would be much more patient in a beta 12 years ago, in a SC beta, when we didn't have something else to compare it to. It's hardly fair to blizzard but that's not my problem either. They don't have 5 years to balance this game, people will move on from it. Is what I'm saying clear? I'm not wording it very well. Blizzard is never in a rush to release a game. I don't know why you think they are. They make their money when they release the product. They aren't bleeding money by keeping this game in beta, sure they are paying the development team but they have a lot of money stockpiled to sustain this for a very long time. The shareholders are all about the profits is true, too bad they have a gem like WoW to keep those shareholders very happy. The sucess of e-sports doesn't rely on the game 100%. Blizzard can pump enough money into tournaments that grab the attention of the best players in the world that they will get sponsors who want their name on the tournaments. It can be called a "garbage" game by a few or a lot of people but if the money is there the game will go on. the fact that they have enough money to throw at the game doesn't mean they're designing a good game. And I guarantee you Blizzard wants to get this game on the market asap. I would be surprised if it came out later than the end of june. HIGHLY surprised.
But you are saying that they are making a bad game, I was saying they aren't rushing it because they never rush a game. I wouldn't be surprised if your stab at the release date is correct. Remember what we see in beta is 1/4 of the game. To some this is 100% of the game, to most of the world this is 1/4 of the game to them. The game will be very polished and complete. They have their vision if it does not corespond to yours then don't buy it and play it. Singleplayer is actually important to a lot of people. E-sports is just a sport if you throw enough money at it with a base of a true sport people will follow it.
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On April 30 2010 03:05 Kralic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 02:59 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:55 Kralic wrote:On April 30 2010 02:47 Eiserne wrote:On April 30 2010 02:44 Kralic wrote:BW is that we've had 12 years to realize BW is perfect. This game, being very young, is the farthest thing from. It's evident in the design and ongoing balance that this game will never live up to the same standards as Brood War. You do know at one point during the SC Betas Reavers did 250 damage... that got changed, give SC2 more beta time and see where the balance changes are going, they did a recent content patch, the big balance patch is going to be soon and by big I mean 3-5 changes. Unfortunately, this game doesn't have that long to wait. Think about modern gaming and how it's different from gaming 12 years ago. We would be much more patient in a beta 12 years ago, in a SC beta, when we didn't have something else to compare it to. It's hardly fair to blizzard but that's not my problem either. They don't have 5 years to balance this game, people will move on from it. Is what I'm saying clear? I'm not wording it very well. Blizzard is never in a rush to release a game. I don't know why you think they are. They make their money when they release the product. They aren't bleeding money by keeping this game in beta, sure they are paying the development team but they have a lot of money stockpiled to sustain this for a very long time. The shareholders are all about the profits is true, too bad they have a gem like WoW to keep those shareholders very happy. The sucess of e-sports doesn't rely on the game 100%. Blizzard can pump enough money into tournaments that grab the attention of the best players in the world that they will get sponsors who want their name on the tournaments. It can be called a "garbage" game by a few or a lot of people but if the money is there the game will go on. the fact that they have enough money to throw at the game doesn't mean they're designing a good game. And I guarantee you Blizzard wants to get this game on the market asap. I would be surprised if it came out later than the end of june. HIGHLY surprised. But you are saying that they are making a bad game, I was saying they aren't rushing it because they never rush a game. I wouldn't be surprised if your stab at the release date is correct. Remember what we see in beta is 1/4 of the game. To some this is 100% of the game, to most of the world this is 1/4 of the game to them. The game will be very polished and complete. They have their vision if it does not corespond to yours then don't buy it and play it. Singleplayer is actually important to a lot of people. E-sports is just a sport if you throw enough money at it with a base of a true sport people will follow it.
I'll concede that the single player is important and I'll be buying the game for that aspect certainly. and I'll probably enjoy custom maps but barring so really groundbreaking balance patches in the coming months, the multiplayer is not good enough to have a professional scene! Can you imagine if BW had some of the balance issues that this game has? It would never have been successful in the first place.
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On April 30 2010 02:41 SkelA wrote:
For me i havent tried SC2 nor plan to play it much because im too old to learn new games and its not BW. BW got everything i need from a game and i dont plan to change something that doenst need changing.
This is pretty much how I feel about it too.
I hope the OP is right so BW is still played by foreigners.
Especially if the people who cam fro SC2 went to BW.
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Calgary25991 Posts
I should have listened to my heart when I closed this the first time.
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