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DanCeWithDevil
United States87 Posts
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DanCeWithDevil
United States87 Posts
On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote: I am naive? lol man get off your high horses. How old are you again? And you telling me to get off MY high horse? Look at the way you were talking when you either a. didn't read the post or b. couldn't comprehend it. Are Korean night clubs one big prostitution establishment? I can see why nerds find this cool though but for me it's pretty disgusting. I consider most of these girls whores of some kind after reading through your entire post and would not touch them with a ten foot pole. Is Korea really this deranged? I thought women in Korea had more respect than this. Ridiculous lol..... | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
I think we're talking on different levels here but I really don't have the time to argue anymore. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25963 Posts
On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote: All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? | ||
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DanCeWithDevil
United States87 Posts
On April 27 2010 05:41 Foucault wrote: You are so not getting my point are you? I think we're talking on different levels here but I really don't have the time to argue anymore. Yes of course I get your point. Anyone can argue that something bad that another nation does is just 'culture difference.' I know that, but that would be a complete logical fallacy. And thats definitely what I'm not doing here. You're the one missing the point: korean girls love it too. Hell, they get the better end of the bargain because they don't have to pay anything to go there. Also girls can get rooms and get guys booked to their room too, just doesn't happen very often. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25963 Posts
None of the girls seemed like they didn't know what they were in for nor did they seem forced. I can see how you would think this setup is weird, which is totally fine. I don't think you need to judge the kinds of men and women who go there, though. I've asked almost every Korean person (90% girls) I've met in Canada if they went to a booking club. Usually they yes and they say it was a good experience. I also feel the need to say that Korean bars are different than western bars. You are usually in your own little area and it's blocked off. It's not like in Europe / North America where it's a huge open room with tables. So it's harder to just walk up to people are start talking. Plus in my experience everyone there is shy as fuck and ridiculously self-conscious. | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote: I am naive? lol man get off your high horses. How old are you again? You can call anything a "cultural difference" regardless of how stupid it is. It's also a "cultural difference" that many muslim women wear burkas. All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. You are totally wrong here. Also cultural difference means everything. What's not right to you is fine to others. And I get the impression this is just You specifically, most guys from Sweden would find this cool. You may be disgusted with whores while some people have sex with them and feel o.k. about it. To me a girl that cheats on you is worse off than a whore because whores are honest about it. Get real, you can't be seriously asking "how old are you?" with this. | ||
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KudoJoe
Korea (South)66 Posts
Many of you are so overwhelmed at this post and don't take into thought that this is just the "Korean" way of doing these services. When Koreans hear of the American and European ways of prostitution, such as street prostitution, orgy clubs, strip bars, bear clubs, etc; it is very alien to them.. I'm pretty sure I can make an extensive blog on the American way "things" are done and it will be as interesting. As for night clubs, I live in Korea town in Los Angeles and there are plenty of Korean night clubs such as Le Cercle, Velvet Room, etc and they are what they are. You go with a bunch of guys and your host introduces other patrons which are female and you have fun with them. If they don't like you, they leave. I can assure you, if you go to a regular Korean club and approach girls, it is the most awkward experience ever. Dancing is huge in Korea and many girls just go to clubs to relieve stress and just DANCE (not meet guys). Many of you are thinking that night clubs are just a huge prostitution ring but it's NOT! It's the same as any other American or European club besides the booking part. Honestly, when you go to to American or European clubs, you go to pick up girls, have a fun night, and **** them. Right???? Koreans are the same exact way but we culturally "shy" Koreans need a boost with the booking system. **Warning** NEVER go to night clubs with other girls even if they are your good friends! Why? Because they come and go out of your room drinking your alcohol that you PAID for and they also get booked to other rooms and drink their alcohol for FREE. Also, while they are going in and out of your room, they host thinks you are already booked and they don't bring in other girls! *sad face* The lesson of my post is culture culture culture. If you are introduced to a new culture, it is very alien...RIGHT? So yea...learn stuff, teach stuff, eat stuff. Oh yea, one more thing, guys are just naturally horny, so we learn to appease the horny senses. How else would the world survive? PS. I know this is my first post but I like reading and not posting...so don't bombard me and call me a nubs. | ||
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DanCeWithDevil
United States87 Posts
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KudoJoe
Korea (South)66 Posts
On April 27 2010 06:10 DanCeWithDevil wrote: Agreed about going with a girl KudoJoe. Not only that but when you go with a girl and she's in the room when you or friends are doing booking naturally she and your booking girl will get talking. Once the booking girl realizes that she's a friend of your guys she will totally put up her guard and not try to impose herself at all and keep it totally 'friendly' even if she could have possibly liked you. Koreans avoid confrontation at all costs even if it's a girl trying to avoid some imaginary cat fight that would have never happened. It's true about Korean girls avoiding confrontation but Korean American girls are so different. They look forward to confrontations and I've seen plenty of cat fights between them. Again culture difference. My night club days have been over for a few years now but in my line of work, we do actually have business meetings in roombbangs which are very productive. 30 minutes of business meeting in a roombbang creates more opportunities than having them inside of my office or at coffee shops in my experience. | ||
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DanCeWithDevil
United States87 Posts
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
It's the same as any other American or European club besides the booking part. Honestly, when you go to to American or European clubs, you go to pick up girls, have a fun night, and **** them. Right???? Not entirely true, if you go to a "techno" club none of the super hot girls that are dancing on X or amphetamine will care for meeting a guy and talking to him. Still it's much easier in the US, Europe was a bit different. | ||
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Draconizard
628 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please | ||
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DanCeWithDevil
United States87 Posts
On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote: What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please Yeah. As they should be. | ||
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Draconizard
628 Posts
... Can we please try and keep the blatant trolling to a minimum? | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Yeah very funny, like I said no point in even discussing this here. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
He's going Hegelian on us. Women are the Other, therefore men are the Norm. Anything that happens is for the development/benefit of men, and women are an afterthought. De Beauvoir calls the Other the minority, the least favored one and often a woman, when compared to a man, "for a man represents both the positive and the neutral, as indicated by the common use of man to designate human beings in general; whereas woman represents only the negative, defined by limiting criteria, without reciprocity." In simple terms, fake-forum-Foucault means to call Korean culture very sexist, which is probably true since it's derived from many of the same hyper-masculine influences that formed Chinese and Japanese culture. Obviously sexism exists throughout the rest of the world as well but I think you could argue East Asian countries are far behind, especially given how advanced the rest of their societies are. Then again, I can't read or speak Korean, so there could certainly be the same kind of counter culture you see in the US and Europe. Not in Japan though. o.o I don't think calling something a "cultural difference" changes whether something is sexist, racist, etc. It just rationalizes it on the personal level. DanCeWithDevil: "It's just a system developed by Koreans." I'd wager Smuft's $5000 that it's a system developed by Korean men. None of this is really that shocking, however. Honestly, I don't have much of an issue with the prostitution. The obsession with prastic surgery and lound eyes is a bit disturbing, though. | ||
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