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I cringe everytime i see this thread bumped
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Very interesting read! I think I want to visit Korea even more now hah.
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I find this blog entry highly fascinating.
Japan also has the same sex industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Japan#Prostitution_today).
It's interesting to see both of them... take similar tech paths, to borrow StarCraft phrasing.
I can't judge if legalizing prostitution is the way to go. It does provide an outlet and lower sex crimes, but at what cost? Then again, aren't the costs just drawn up by our own moral standards, which in turn were created culturally and through life experiences? Where do we draw the line, and how is that line determined fairly?
It's too hard to figure it out, but it's always good to have diversity between western and eastern cultures; you never forget the big picture that way. We are able to see beyond our own limited scope.
Thanks for the courage to post from behind-the-scenes!
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I know many of you are amazed at all this... Such mystical stuff in the mysterious southern half of the Korean peninsula... But let me open your eyes to something that may be even more shocking to some. A lot of these girls end up coming to the US!
Three primary reasons why they leave the motherland for the U S of A.
1. They're too old for Korea. In Korea, 30 is too old.
2. They can make much more money in America.
3. They skip out on all their debt and problems and run away to America.
So here goes...
Let's start with the "classy" room salons.
Room Salons
Room salons exist whereever Koreans are. The cost? Minimum is something like $300 for a bottle of Johnny Walker, $100 for the girl, $50 for the waiter, $50 for the madam. So expect to pay $500 to get drunk and a case of blueballs.
The girls will sing, dance, play games. Their raunchiness is up to their personality and you, but don't expect sex. In America, 2-cha (sex) does not exist in 95% of the room salons, with 5% margin of error. If it exists, I have never seen it nor even heard of it.
Instead, girls are actively looking to do something called jagop (literally means work) which means they are trying to seduce guys into giving them money. They do this in various ways: Talking on the phone, meeting for dinner, going on dates, and of course sex. But it's not simply paying for sex as it is in Korea. They actively look for sugardaddies, and if you can pay them rent plus $2000 or $3000 a month, then you might have a good chance of making them your sugarbaby and actually having sex.
Girls tend to range from 20 to 35. The younger and prettier ones tend to be in places that are either convenient (LA) or a place that makes a lot of money (varies). I have never been to a room salon in Korea, but I think I can give an educated guess that the girls at room salons in America are not as pretty as the ones in Korea on average, but the very hot ones still do exist.
There also exists the noraebang doumi. These are girls that will come to your karaoke room at a standard noraebang (karaoke), and they will drink/dance/play with you. Price is usually a minimum of $120-$140 for 2 hours plus whatever your karaoke room costs (depends on size of room). This niche used to be covered by Korean-Chinese (Koreans that were raised in China), as they are looked down upon by regular Koreans (racism, I know), but in some areas, doumis make more money than room salon girls, so Korean room salon girls working as doumis is starting to become the norm. All the same jagop rules apply.
There is also the doumi bar. It is a bar where the bartenders are room salon girls and doumis. I have never been, but tip is not the standard American 15-20%, as these girls will go out of their way to talk with you and whatever and make you feel good. I don't know for sure, but I estimate you are expected to pay at least $50 in tip no matter how little you drank.
Since the prostitution element is practically non-existant with these places, the biggest concerns are:
1. It is illegal in most America for a restaurant or bar employee to ask customers to buy them drinks.
2. Many of these girls are illegally working as they do not have the proper documents.
However, non-Koreans will always suspect something more is going on at these establishments... But not in America. There is no hanky panky.
During good times, girls typically make $6000 - $10000.
Because many of these girls have worked 2-cha before back in Korea, some decide to move into actual prostitution...
Massage Parlors
This used to be the most common format all over the country until huge FBI and ICE stings that swept both coasts in 2005 and 2006 respectively. They are still very common all over America.
The idea is you pay $60 to the mamasan as the "house fee" and $100 to the girl for sex, with lesser services being less. Prices vary in different places. For example, in Rhode Island it's typically $60 + $140.
In good times, good girls will make typically $20000-$30000 by banging 7 to 10 guys a day.
The quality of the girls depends on where you go, but the average age is 30-40, with some girls being younger and some girls being older. It is not uncommon to see incredibly hot plastic girls, due to the amount of plastic surgery they get using the money they make. However, it's also not uncommon to see plastic surgery gone bad, and of course the girls tend to be older.
The girls will typically give you a table shower where you lay on a rubber mat and they soap and wash you. Then they take you to a room where they massage you and then tell you to turn over. Blowjobs are almost always with condom. Kissing and giving them oral sex is not very common, but not uncommon either.
If you go to a massage parlor in some rural area like the Mid-West, expect to see some really ugly ladies in their 50's and 60's. And it'll still cost you the same. Sometimes, it'll cost the same and all you will get is a handjob as by the time they get that old, they have married and become permanent residents and have obtained massage licenses.
Incall
Now this is what you'll commonly see referred to an escort. However, the Korean escorts typically work out of rented apartments instead of hotels. This format is becoming increasingly popular due to how discreet it is and less overhead of having to manage an actual massage business front (licensing, renting a commercial property, etc.)
Prices vary and quality of services vary. Typical breakdown.
Los Angeles - $250 for 1 Hour. Girls tend to be younger (25-35 average), more natural looking (like a normal Korean girl), and do more (uncovered blowjob, let you give them oral sex, kiss).
New York - $200 for 1 Hour. Some actually still work out of massage parlors, but advertise on the Internet as escorts. Girls tend to be 30-40 average, more "hotter" looking (tan, dyed hair, huge boobs), and so on. Service is more typical of a massage parlor (all covered, kissing rare, etc.).
Chinese Houses - Owner is Chinese, hence the name. Girls will be more natural looking to be more attractive to Asian customers. Girls usually stay only 10 days. Everything is mechanical service. They bang you and you leave. Typically the price is $160 or $140, but there are places that go as low as $120, where you are expected to finish and leave within 10 minutes.
The Rest
And as usual, there's all sorts of variations. Independent Korean escorts, outcall, so on.
However, I'd like to touch on the issue of human trafficking. Very, very few of these girls are sex slaves. Chances are that even if you frequent these type of places, you will never see one who is being forced to work against their will. However, when these places are busted, the media and law enforcement will almost always play up the angle of human trafficking and sex slavery because:
1. They're Asian.
2. They speak little to no English usually.
3. They're usually working in the country illegally.
Well that's that!
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 30 2011 17:47 Core1 wrote:
I know many of you are amazed at all this... Such mystical stuff in the mysterious southern half of the Korean peninsula... But let me open your eyes to something that may be even more shocking to some. A lot of these girls end up coming to the US!
Three primary reasons why they leave the motherland for the U S of A.
1. They're too old for Korea. In Korea, 30 is too old.
2. They can make much more money in America.
3. They skip out on all their debt and problems and run away to America.
So here goes...
Let's start with the "classy" room salons.
Room Salons
Room salons exist whereever Koreans are. The cost? Minimum is something like $300 for a bottle of Johnny Walker, $100 for the girl, $50 for the waiter, $50 for the madam. So expect to pay $500 to get drunk and a case of blueballs.
The girls will sing, dance, play games. Their raunchiness is up to their personality and you, but don't expect sex. In America, 2-cha (sex) does not exist in 95% of the room salons, with 5% margin of error. If it exists, I have never seen it nor even heard of it.
Instead, girls are actively looking to do something called jagop (literally means work) which means they are trying to seduce guys into giving them money. They do this in various ways: Talking on the phone, meeting for dinner, going on dates, and of course sex. But it's not simply paying for sex as it is in Korea. They actively look for sugardaddies, and if you can pay them rent plus $2000 or $3000 a month, then you might have a good chance of making them your sugarbaby and actually having sex.
Girls tend to range from 20 to 35. The younger and prettier ones tend to be in places that are either convenient (LA) or a place that makes a lot of money (varies). I have never been to a room salon in Korea, but I think I can give an educated guess that the girls at room salons in America are not as pretty as the ones in Korea on average, but the very hot ones still do exist.
There also exists the noraebang doumi. These are girls that will come to your karaoke room at a standard noraebang (karaoke), and they will drink/dance/play with you. Price is usually a minimum of $120-$140 for 2 hours plus whatever your karaoke room costs (depends on size of room). This niche used to be covered by Korean-Chinese (Koreans that were raised in China), as they are looked down upon by regular Koreans (racism, I know), but in some areas, doumis make more money than room salon girls, so Korean room salon girls working as doumis is starting to become the norm. All the same jagop rules apply.
There is also the doumi bar. It is a bar where the bartenders are room salon girls and doumis. I have never been, but tip is not the standard American 15-20%, as these girls will go out of their way to talk with you and whatever and make you feel good. I don't know for sure, but I estimate you are expected to pay at least $50 in tip no matter how little you drank.
Since the prostitution element is practically non-existant with these places, the biggest concerns are:
1. It is illegal in most America for a restaurant or bar employee to ask customers to buy them drinks.
2. Many of these girls are illegally working as they do not have the proper documents.
However, non-Koreans will always suspect something more is going on at these establishments... But not in America. There is no hanky panky.
During good times, girls typically make $6000 - $10000.
Because many of these girls have worked 2-cha before back in Korea, some decide to move into actual prostitution...
Massage Parlors
This used to be the most common format all over the country until huge FBI and ICE stings that swept both coasts in 2005 and 2006 respectively. They are still very common all over America.
The idea is you pay $60 to the mamasan as the "house fee" and $100 to the girl for sex, with lesser services being less. Prices vary in different places. For example, in Rhode Island it's typically $60 + $140.
In good times, good girls will make typically $20000-$30000 by banging 7 to 10 guys a day.
The quality of the girls depends on where you go, but the average age is 30-40, with some girls being younger and some girls being older. It is not uncommon to see incredibly hot plastic girls, due to the amount of plastic surgery they get using the money they make. However, it's also not uncommon to see plastic surgery gone bad, and of course the girls tend to be older.
The girls will typically give you a table shower where you lay on a rubber mat and they soap and wash you. Then they take you to a room where they massage you and then tell you to turn over. Blowjobs are almost always with condom. Kissing and giving them oral sex is not very common, but not uncommon either.
If you go to a massage parlor in some rural area like the Mid-West, expect to see some really ugly ladies in their 50's and 60's. And it'll still cost you the same. Sometimes, it'll cost the same and all you will get is a handjob as by the time they get that old, they have married and become permanent residents and have obtained massage licenses.
Incall
Now this is what you'll commonly see referred to an escort. However, the Korean escorts typically work out of rented apartments instead of hotels. This format is becoming increasingly popular due to how discreet it is and less overhead of having to manage an actual massage business front (licensing, renting a commercial property, etc.)
Prices vary and quality of services vary. Typical breakdown.
Los Angeles - $250 for 1 Hour. Girls tend to be younger (25-35 average), more natural looking (like a normal Korean girl), and do more (uncovered blowjob, let you give them oral sex, kiss).
New York - $200 for 1 Hour. Some actually still work out of massage parlors, but advertise on the Internet as escorts. Girls tend to be 30-40 average, more "hotter" looking (tan, dyed hair, huge boobs), and so on. Service is more typical of a massage parlor (all covered, kissing rare, etc.).
Chinese Houses - Owner is Chinese, hence the name. Girls will be more natural looking to be more attractive to Asian customers. Girls usually stay only 10 days. Everything is mechanical service. They bang you and you leave. Typically the price is $160 or $140, but there are places that go as low as $120, where you are expected to finish and leave within 10 minutes.
The Rest
And as usual, there's all sorts of variations. Independent Korean escorts, outcall, so on.
However, I'd like to touch on the issue of human trafficking. Very, very few of these girls are sex slaves. Chances are that even if you frequent these type of places, you will never see one who is being forced to work against their will. However, when these places are busted, the media and law enforcement will almost always play up the angle of human trafficking and sex slavery because:
1. They're Asian.
2. They speak little to no English usually.
3. They're usually working in the country illegally.
Well that's that!
Strong first post but really... like lilsusie asked, why did you feel the need to post this on a gaming forum? and you made an entire account to do so?
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On March 30 2011 18:22 fearus wrote:Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +On March 30 2011 17:47 Core1 wrote:
I know many of you are amazed at all this... Such mystical stuff in the mysterious southern half of the Korean peninsula... But let me open your eyes to something that may be even more shocking to some. A lot of these girls end up coming to the US!
Three primary reasons why they leave the motherland for the U S of A.
1. They're too old for Korea. In Korea, 30 is too old.
2. They can make much more money in America.
3. They skip out on all their debt and problems and run away to America.
So here goes...
Let's start with the "classy" room salons.
Room Salons
Room salons exist whereever Koreans are. The cost? Minimum is something like $300 for a bottle of Johnny Walker, $100 for the girl, $50 for the waiter, $50 for the madam. So expect to pay $500 to get drunk and a case of blueballs.
The girls will sing, dance, play games. Their raunchiness is up to their personality and you, but don't expect sex. In America, 2-cha (sex) does not exist in 95% of the room salons, with 5% margin of error. If it exists, I have never seen it nor even heard of it.
Instead, girls are actively looking to do something called jagop (literally means work) which means they are trying to seduce guys into giving them money. They do this in various ways: Talking on the phone, meeting for dinner, going on dates, and of course sex. But it's not simply paying for sex as it is in Korea. They actively look for sugardaddies, and if you can pay them rent plus $2000 or $3000 a month, then you might have a good chance of making them your sugarbaby and actually having sex.
Girls tend to range from 20 to 35. The younger and prettier ones tend to be in places that are either convenient (LA) or a place that makes a lot of money (varies). I have never been to a room salon in Korea, but I think I can give an educated guess that the girls at room salons in America are not as pretty as the ones in Korea on average, but the very hot ones still do exist.
There also exists the noraebang doumi. These are girls that will come to your karaoke room at a standard noraebang (karaoke), and they will drink/dance/play with you. Price is usually a minimum of $120-$140 for 2 hours plus whatever your karaoke room costs (depends on size of room). This niche used to be covered by Korean-Chinese (Koreans that were raised in China), as they are looked down upon by regular Koreans (racism, I know), but in some areas, doumis make more money than room salon girls, so Korean room salon girls working as doumis is starting to become the norm. All the same jagop rules apply.
There is also the doumi bar. It is a bar where the bartenders are room salon girls and doumis. I have never been, but tip is not the standard American 15-20%, as these girls will go out of their way to talk with you and whatever and make you feel good. I don't know for sure, but I estimate you are expected to pay at least $50 in tip no matter how little you drank.
Since the prostitution element is practically non-existant with these places, the biggest concerns are:
1. It is illegal in most America for a restaurant or bar employee to ask customers to buy them drinks.
2. Many of these girls are illegally working as they do not have the proper documents.
However, non-Koreans will always suspect something more is going on at these establishments... But not in America. There is no hanky panky.
During good times, girls typically make $6000 - $10000.
Because many of these girls have worked 2-cha before back in Korea, some decide to move into actual prostitution...
Massage Parlors
This used to be the most common format all over the country until huge FBI and ICE stings that swept both coasts in 2005 and 2006 respectively. They are still very common all over America.
The idea is you pay $60 to the mamasan as the "house fee" and $100 to the girl for sex, with lesser services being less. Prices vary in different places. For example, in Rhode Island it's typically $60 + $140.
In good times, good girls will make typically $20000-$30000 by banging 7 to 10 guys a day.
The quality of the girls depends on where you go, but the average age is 30-40, with some girls being younger and some girls being older. It is not uncommon to see incredibly hot plastic girls, due to the amount of plastic surgery they get using the money they make. However, it's also not uncommon to see plastic surgery gone bad, and of course the girls tend to be older.
The girls will typically give you a table shower where you lay on a rubber mat and they soap and wash you. Then they take you to a room where they massage you and then tell you to turn over. Blowjobs are almost always with condom. Kissing and giving them oral sex is not very common, but not uncommon either.
If you go to a massage parlor in some rural area like the Mid-West, expect to see some really ugly ladies in their 50's and 60's. And it'll still cost you the same. Sometimes, it'll cost the same and all you will get is a handjob as by the time they get that old, they have married and become permanent residents and have obtained massage licenses.
Incall
Now this is what you'll commonly see referred to an escort. However, the Korean escorts typically work out of rented apartments instead of hotels. This format is becoming increasingly popular due to how discreet it is and less overhead of having to manage an actual massage business front (licensing, renting a commercial property, etc.)
Prices vary and quality of services vary. Typical breakdown.
Los Angeles - $250 for 1 Hour. Girls tend to be younger (25-35 average), more natural looking (like a normal Korean girl), and do more (uncovered blowjob, let you give them oral sex, kiss).
New York - $200 for 1 Hour. Some actually still work out of massage parlors, but advertise on the Internet as escorts. Girls tend to be 30-40 average, more "hotter" looking (tan, dyed hair, huge boobs), and so on. Service is more typical of a massage parlor (all covered, kissing rare, etc.).
Chinese Houses - Owner is Chinese, hence the name. Girls will be more natural looking to be more attractive to Asian customers. Girls usually stay only 10 days. Everything is mechanical service. They bang you and you leave. Typically the price is $160 or $140, but there are places that go as low as $120, where you are expected to finish and leave within 10 minutes.
The Rest
And as usual, there's all sorts of variations. Independent Korean escorts, outcall, so on.
However, I'd like to touch on the issue of human trafficking. Very, very few of these girls are sex slaves. Chances are that even if you frequent these type of places, you will never see one who is being forced to work against their will. However, when these places are busted, the media and law enforcement will almost always play up the angle of human trafficking and sex slavery because:
1. They're Asian.
2. They speak little to no English usually.
3. They're usually working in the country illegally.
Well that's that! Strong first post but really... like lilsusie asked, why did you feel the need to post this on a gaming forum? and you made an entire account to do so?
Because there's a thread he could contribute to, and contribute well, don't act like this isn't interesting.
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On March 30 2011 18:22 fearus wrote:Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +On March 30 2011 17:47 Core1 wrote:
I know many of you are amazed at all this... Such mystical stuff in the mysterious southern half of the Korean peninsula... But let me open your eyes to something that may be even more shocking to some. A lot of these girls end up coming to the US!
Three primary reasons why they leave the motherland for the U S of A.
1. They're too old for Korea. In Korea, 30 is too old.
2. They can make much more money in America.
3. They skip out on all their debt and problems and run away to America.
So here goes...
Let's start with the "classy" room salons.
Room Salons
Room salons exist whereever Koreans are. The cost? Minimum is something like $300 for a bottle of Johnny Walker, $100 for the girl, $50 for the waiter, $50 for the madam. So expect to pay $500 to get drunk and a case of blueballs.
The girls will sing, dance, play games. Their raunchiness is up to their personality and you, but don't expect sex. In America, 2-cha (sex) does not exist in 95% of the room salons, with 5% margin of error. If it exists, I have never seen it nor even heard of it.
Instead, girls are actively looking to do something called jagop (literally means work) which means they are trying to seduce guys into giving them money. They do this in various ways: Talking on the phone, meeting for dinner, going on dates, and of course sex. But it's not simply paying for sex as it is in Korea. They actively look for sugardaddies, and if you can pay them rent plus $2000 or $3000 a month, then you might have a good chance of making them your sugarbaby and actually having sex.
Girls tend to range from 20 to 35. The younger and prettier ones tend to be in places that are either convenient (LA) or a place that makes a lot of money (varies). I have never been to a room salon in Korea, but I think I can give an educated guess that the girls at room salons in America are not as pretty as the ones in Korea on average, but the very hot ones still do exist.
There also exists the noraebang doumi. These are girls that will come to your karaoke room at a standard noraebang (karaoke), and they will drink/dance/play with you. Price is usually a minimum of $120-$140 for 2 hours plus whatever your karaoke room costs (depends on size of room). This niche used to be covered by Korean-Chinese (Koreans that were raised in China), as they are looked down upon by regular Koreans (racism, I know), but in some areas, doumis make more money than room salon girls, so Korean room salon girls working as doumis is starting to become the norm. All the same jagop rules apply.
There is also the doumi bar. It is a bar where the bartenders are room salon girls and doumis. I have never been, but tip is not the standard American 15-20%, as these girls will go out of their way to talk with you and whatever and make you feel good. I don't know for sure, but I estimate you are expected to pay at least $50 in tip no matter how little you drank.
Since the prostitution element is practically non-existant with these places, the biggest concerns are:
1. It is illegal in most America for a restaurant or bar employee to ask customers to buy them drinks.
2. Many of these girls are illegally working as they do not have the proper documents.
However, non-Koreans will always suspect something more is going on at these establishments... But not in America. There is no hanky panky.
During good times, girls typically make $6000 - $10000.
Because many of these girls have worked 2-cha before back in Korea, some decide to move into actual prostitution...
Massage Parlors
This used to be the most common format all over the country until huge FBI and ICE stings that swept both coasts in 2005 and 2006 respectively. They are still very common all over America.
The idea is you pay $60 to the mamasan as the "house fee" and $100 to the girl for sex, with lesser services being less. Prices vary in different places. For example, in Rhode Island it's typically $60 + $140.
In good times, good girls will make typically $20000-$30000 by banging 7 to 10 guys a day.
The quality of the girls depends on where you go, but the average age is 30-40, with some girls being younger and some girls being older. It is not uncommon to see incredibly hot plastic girls, due to the amount of plastic surgery they get using the money they make. However, it's also not uncommon to see plastic surgery gone bad, and of course the girls tend to be older.
The girls will typically give you a table shower where you lay on a rubber mat and they soap and wash you. Then they take you to a room where they massage you and then tell you to turn over. Blowjobs are almost always with condom. Kissing and giving them oral sex is not very common, but not uncommon either.
If you go to a massage parlor in some rural area like the Mid-West, expect to see some really ugly ladies in their 50's and 60's. And it'll still cost you the same. Sometimes, it'll cost the same and all you will get is a handjob as by the time they get that old, they have married and become permanent residents and have obtained massage licenses.
Incall
Now this is what you'll commonly see referred to an escort. However, the Korean escorts typically work out of rented apartments instead of hotels. This format is becoming increasingly popular due to how discreet it is and less overhead of having to manage an actual massage business front (licensing, renting a commercial property, etc.)
Prices vary and quality of services vary. Typical breakdown.
Los Angeles - $250 for 1 Hour. Girls tend to be younger (25-35 average), more natural looking (like a normal Korean girl), and do more (uncovered blowjob, let you give them oral sex, kiss).
New York - $200 for 1 Hour. Some actually still work out of massage parlors, but advertise on the Internet as escorts. Girls tend to be 30-40 average, more "hotter" looking (tan, dyed hair, huge boobs), and so on. Service is more typical of a massage parlor (all covered, kissing rare, etc.).
Chinese Houses - Owner is Chinese, hence the name. Girls will be more natural looking to be more attractive to Asian customers. Girls usually stay only 10 days. Everything is mechanical service. They bang you and you leave. Typically the price is $160 or $140, but there are places that go as low as $120, where you are expected to finish and leave within 10 minutes.
The Rest
And as usual, there's all sorts of variations. Independent Korean escorts, outcall, so on.
However, I'd like to touch on the issue of human trafficking. Very, very few of these girls are sex slaves. Chances are that even if you frequent these type of places, you will never see one who is being forced to work against their will. However, when these places are busted, the media and law enforcement will almost always play up the angle of human trafficking and sex slavery because:
1. They're Asian.
2. They speak little to no English usually.
3. They're usually working in the country illegally.
Well that's that! Strong first post but really... like lilsusie asked, why did you feel the need to post this on a gaming forum? and you made an entire account to do so?
Cause its a blog and he can do so.
Lilsusie wouldnt even gave a damn if it wasn't about korea.
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On May 02 2011 01:51 FakePlasticLove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 18:22 fearus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 30 2011 17:47 Core1 wrote:
I know many of you are amazed at all this... Such mystical stuff in the mysterious southern half of the Korean peninsula... But let me open your eyes to something that may be even more shocking to some. A lot of these girls end up coming to the US!
Three primary reasons why they leave the motherland for the U S of A.
1. They're too old for Korea. In Korea, 30 is too old.
2. They can make much more money in America.
3. They skip out on all their debt and problems and run away to America.
So here goes...
Let's start with the "classy" room salons.
Room Salons
Room salons exist whereever Koreans are. The cost? Minimum is something like $300 for a bottle of Johnny Walker, $100 for the girl, $50 for the waiter, $50 for the madam. So expect to pay $500 to get drunk and a case of blueballs.
The girls will sing, dance, play games. Their raunchiness is up to their personality and you, but don't expect sex. In America, 2-cha (sex) does not exist in 95% of the room salons, with 5% margin of error. If it exists, I have never seen it nor even heard of it.
Instead, girls are actively looking to do something called jagop (literally means work) which means they are trying to seduce guys into giving them money. They do this in various ways: Talking on the phone, meeting for dinner, going on dates, and of course sex. But it's not simply paying for sex as it is in Korea. They actively look for sugardaddies, and if you can pay them rent plus $2000 or $3000 a month, then you might have a good chance of making them your sugarbaby and actually having sex.
Girls tend to range from 20 to 35. The younger and prettier ones tend to be in places that are either convenient (LA) or a place that makes a lot of money (varies). I have never been to a room salon in Korea, but I think I can give an educated guess that the girls at room salons in America are not as pretty as the ones in Korea on average, but the very hot ones still do exist.
There also exists the noraebang doumi. These are girls that will come to your karaoke room at a standard noraebang (karaoke), and they will drink/dance/play with you. Price is usually a minimum of $120-$140 for 2 hours plus whatever your karaoke room costs (depends on size of room). This niche used to be covered by Korean-Chinese (Koreans that were raised in China), as they are looked down upon by regular Koreans (racism, I know), but in some areas, doumis make more money than room salon girls, so Korean room salon girls working as doumis is starting to become the norm. All the same jagop rules apply.
There is also the doumi bar. It is a bar where the bartenders are room salon girls and doumis. I have never been, but tip is not the standard American 15-20%, as these girls will go out of their way to talk with you and whatever and make you feel good. I don't know for sure, but I estimate you are expected to pay at least $50 in tip no matter how little you drank.
Since the prostitution element is practically non-existant with these places, the biggest concerns are:
1. It is illegal in most America for a restaurant or bar employee to ask customers to buy them drinks.
2. Many of these girls are illegally working as they do not have the proper documents.
However, non-Koreans will always suspect something more is going on at these establishments... But not in America. There is no hanky panky.
During good times, girls typically make $6000 - $10000.
Because many of these girls have worked 2-cha before back in Korea, some decide to move into actual prostitution...
Massage Parlors
This used to be the most common format all over the country until huge FBI and ICE stings that swept both coasts in 2005 and 2006 respectively. They are still very common all over America.
The idea is you pay $60 to the mamasan as the "house fee" and $100 to the girl for sex, with lesser services being less. Prices vary in different places. For example, in Rhode Island it's typically $60 + $140.
In good times, good girls will make typically $20000-$30000 by banging 7 to 10 guys a day.
The quality of the girls depends on where you go, but the average age is 30-40, with some girls being younger and some girls being older. It is not uncommon to see incredibly hot plastic girls, due to the amount of plastic surgery they get using the money they make. However, it's also not uncommon to see plastic surgery gone bad, and of course the girls tend to be older.
The girls will typically give you a table shower where you lay on a rubber mat and they soap and wash you. Then they take you to a room where they massage you and then tell you to turn over. Blowjobs are almost always with condom. Kissing and giving them oral sex is not very common, but not uncommon either.
If you go to a massage parlor in some rural area like the Mid-West, expect to see some really ugly ladies in their 50's and 60's. And it'll still cost you the same. Sometimes, it'll cost the same and all you will get is a handjob as by the time they get that old, they have married and become permanent residents and have obtained massage licenses.
Incall
Now this is what you'll commonly see referred to an escort. However, the Korean escorts typically work out of rented apartments instead of hotels. This format is becoming increasingly popular due to how discreet it is and less overhead of having to manage an actual massage business front (licensing, renting a commercial property, etc.)
Prices vary and quality of services vary. Typical breakdown.
Los Angeles - $250 for 1 Hour. Girls tend to be younger (25-35 average), more natural looking (like a normal Korean girl), and do more (uncovered blowjob, let you give them oral sex, kiss).
New York - $200 for 1 Hour. Some actually still work out of massage parlors, but advertise on the Internet as escorts. Girls tend to be 30-40 average, more "hotter" looking (tan, dyed hair, huge boobs), and so on. Service is more typical of a massage parlor (all covered, kissing rare, etc.).
Chinese Houses - Owner is Chinese, hence the name. Girls will be more natural looking to be more attractive to Asian customers. Girls usually stay only 10 days. Everything is mechanical service. They bang you and you leave. Typically the price is $160 or $140, but there are places that go as low as $120, where you are expected to finish and leave within 10 minutes.
The Rest
And as usual, there's all sorts of variations. Independent Korean escorts, outcall, so on.
However, I'd like to touch on the issue of human trafficking. Very, very few of these girls are sex slaves. Chances are that even if you frequent these type of places, you will never see one who is being forced to work against their will. However, when these places are busted, the media and law enforcement will almost always play up the angle of human trafficking and sex slavery because:
1. They're Asian.
2. They speak little to no English usually.
3. They're usually working in the country illegally.
Well that's that! Strong first post but really... like lilsusie asked, why did you feel the need to post this on a gaming forum? and you made an entire account to do so? Cause its a blog and he can do so. Lilsusie wouldnt even gave a damn if it wasn't about korea.
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core1 might be right about the areas he visited, but in RI almost every asian massage joint (including korean) does 'full body rubs', which is anything you want basically. I would assume the same for Nevada. So no, not true for all states.
Plenty of young girls over there too.
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But... ... American women superior!
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Interesting read, pretty enlightening, thanks for posting this, when I visit Korea someday i'll (if i'm wealthy enough, which I do plan to be.) probably check these types of things out in person, i'm not saying i'm going to go to a whorehouse and pay to fuck some-girl, as OP said there are types of clubs where it's just drinking/talking/laughing/type of stuff, who knows maybe I will go further, we'll have to see. My fascination with Korea grows more and more each day.
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Interesting read 5/5, OP if you see this let us know what happened.
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I checked out the redlight districts in Seoul... Miari is kinda whack... 588 is eh.... Cheonho is the one for me. They have two right in front of each other right outside the alley with all the sellers selling pig feet. One shop has girls dressed in black the other dressed in white.
70,000 won for 15 minutes. Some let you go without condom, not sure how safe that is, though.
They're all pretty hot, but it's kind of sad how plastic surgery makes everyone look the same now. I actually kind of like a little rounder face instead of the newly popular vase-faces in Korea. If I could find a girl that looks like below would be awesome: http://korea1818.com/fk-ccup1-1.jpg
Speaking of which, I stayed in a hotel and they showed a lot of Korean porn. All of it was fake, though (they don't show any penetration, just a lot of toplessness and moaning).
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