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On April 27 2010 11:23 LOcDowN wrote:
It's a dark playing ground for adult, I'm not against it at all. But if you fail to see why it's dark then that you need to wake the fuck up.
It's not dark. Those adults worked hard to make enough money to attract those young women. They are like old, long-maned lions, prowling around with their scarred hides and yellowed fangs, sniffing around for a sleek lioness to mount. And there's no need for rage/wakingfuckups. I don't see anything wrong with women chasing material wealth and men leveraging said wealth to attract them. It's not something I would personally do, but judging others for having different life goals is more repugnant to me than actually engaging in said "dark" activities.
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On April 27 2010 10:11 lilsusie wrote:
As for going with a group of guys, usually I'll sit with the guy who has a girlfriend and DOESN'T want to be booked (yes, some guys here have morals that they stick to) or I just go out and get booked myself. Kinda sucks to get booked when you have a bf and don't really wanna talk to/get groped by other guys.
Any single guy that doesn't want to try out booking while in a booking club is simply insecure. Any guy with a girlfriend that goes to a night club then is scared to have a conversation with a girl just because they think that might be 'cheating' is pathetic.
If only everyone could just let loose and be cool~
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I'm so proud to be an NYU alum.
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I don't know what's going on here with all people bashing, defending, arguing, Korea-loving/hating, OP-hating. Either some people on this forum are just trolls trying to rile something up or really don't understand life in general.
OP here has a difficult job of satisfying the demands of his customer. That's a job requirement for everyone folks. Regardless of whether you work as a doctor or a convenience store owner, it is in the best interest for everyone to satisfy people who pay them. And the thing about his girlfriend...who are you kids trying to act like Indiana Jones of morals with their compasses guiding what Jesus told them to do? Do you guys really understand or have you been raised in a totally sterile environment with perfumes and rainbows? If you can't understand them, I'm totally fine with that but don't come here to complain and preach about how wrong OP's life is because you guys don't live the same way. I'm not gonna tell you guys to deal with it because you obviously can't.
For those who generalize Koreans based on this post is really probably the reason why lilsusie opposed this post and probably why OP could have hesitated writing it. For those talking about woman's rights and patriarchal societies...note that this is not OP's idea. This is just the way the culture has formed and is at this point. Regardless of whether a person opinions, this is just the way it is. I personally do not believe in patriarchal society and promote woman's rights but as when there is light, there is always a shadow. People who are speaking like they have ethics of Gandhi should really be questioning themselves whether they are being heroes by bashing at the OP for stating his observations and what IS the truth, not just in Korea, but in today's world (probably the reason why there are woman's rights movement even now).
I sincerely thank OP for writing this blog because it's not a very easy thing to do write about. I learned new things and was a very interesting read. I know this post got defiled by some people who clearly didn't (or rather still don't) understand the text but I personally thank you for this great post ^^.
EDIT: P.S. GL getting the managerial position in the future!
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On April 27 2010 12:15 DanCeWithDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 10:11 lilsusie wrote:
As for going with a group of guys, usually I'll sit with the guy who has a girlfriend and DOESN'T want to be booked (yes, some guys here have morals that they stick to) or I just go out and get booked myself. Kinda sucks to get booked when you have a bf and don't really wanna talk to/get groped by other guys.
Any single guy that doesn't want to try out booking while in a booking club is simply insecure. Any guy with a girlfriend that goes to a night club then is scared to have a conversation with a girl just because they think that might be 'cheating' is pathetic. If only everyone could just let loose and be cool~
I was with you up until this point but this is just stupid. Not wanting to get booking doesn't mean at all you are being insecure or scared.
Also don't bother with Faucault his main job on this website is to inform everyone how negative and horribly bad whatever-they-are-talking-about / the world is.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
whoa now what have we here
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
please.
screw anmas and paying for it. though i love the night clubs. and going to room salons and trying to get the girls w/out paying can be fun too.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
LOL@ Ack1027
he will never grow up
neither will i though, so that's okay
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This is the first time I've seen this thread, but it's probably the best thing I've seen on here in months, beating out starcraft 2, the betting scandal and any KeSPA issues :D.
What's all the fuss about this, susie, and anyone else? Out of all the countries in the world, this site is most fitted for the underground scene of South Korea, not Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, South America, and so on. I WISH we could get as detailed posts about this sort of thing in Russian, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Brazil, Sweden, Argentina, Denmark, etc. Someone get to it!
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On April 27 2010 15:24 Slasher wrote:
This is the first time I've seen this thread, but it's probably the best thing I've seen on here in months, beating out starcraft 2, the betting scandal and any KeSPA issues :D.
What's all the fuss about this, susie, and anyone else? Out of all the countries in the world, this site is most fitted for the underground scene of South Korea, not Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, South America, and so on. I WISH we could get as detailed posts about this sort of thing in Russian, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Brazil, Sweden, Argentina, Denmark, etc. Someone get to it!
It's a pride thing. I don't like having my country singled out and have it's dirty laundry aired out for everyone to see. =/ but carry on with your information sessions. Everyone loves dirty things.
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are you calling me dirty laundry? that's very disrespectful coming from a low class UNEMPLOYED citizen like yourself
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On April 27 2010 16:15 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 15:24 Slasher wrote:
This is the first time I've seen this thread, but it's probably the best thing I've seen on here in months, beating out starcraft 2, the betting scandal and any KeSPA issues :D.
What's all the fuss about this, susie, and anyone else? Out of all the countries in the world, this site is most fitted for the underground scene of South Korea, not Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, South America, and so on. I WISH we could get as detailed posts about this sort of thing in Russian, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Brazil, Sweden, Argentina, Denmark, etc. Someone get to it! It's a pride thing. I don't like having my country singled out and have it's dirty laundry aired out for everyone to see. =/ but carry on with your information sessions. Everyone loves dirty things.
mmm .. aren't you being a little bit oversensitive here? 
it's not like after reading this everyone starts picturing Korea as a country filled with slutty whores spreading their legs for money ... i mean, most if not all of us here have already known what Korea is like overall in terms of culture, the people, the food, Starcraft and so on ... this is just one of the many things that people can find in Korea (or in any country for that matter) ... you might call it dark, dirty laundry or whatever ... though i seriously doubt that people will start to (or ever) disrespect Korea just from those facts ... if there are those who don't like booking club, sexual sauna (WHO THE FUCK DOESN'T?!?!?!?! ehemm ... excuse me), they will just simply look for other things in Korea ... it's not like "eww they have boob massage in Seoul, let's visit somewhere else" ...
just my .02 though, i understand your concern susie ... though it's not totally a bad thing as how you have been seeing it ...
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On April 27 2010 16:32 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 16:15 lilsusie wrote:On April 27 2010 15:24 Slasher wrote:
This is the first time I've seen this thread, but it's probably the best thing I've seen on here in months, beating out starcraft 2, the betting scandal and any KeSPA issues :D.
What's all the fuss about this, susie, and anyone else? Out of all the countries in the world, this site is most fitted for the underground scene of South Korea, not Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, South America, and so on. I WISH we could get as detailed posts about this sort of thing in Russian, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Brazil, Sweden, Argentina, Denmark, etc. Someone get to it! It's a pride thing. I don't like having my country singled out and have it's dirty laundry aired out for everyone to see. =/ but carry on with your information sessions. Everyone loves dirty things. mmm .. aren't you being a little bit oversensitive here? it's not like after reading this everyone starts picturing Korea as a country filled with slutty whores spreading their legs for money ... i mean, most if not all of us here have already known what Korea is like overall in terms of culture, the people, the food, Starcraft and so on ... this is just one of the many things that people can find in Korea (or in any country for that matter) ... you might call it dark, dirty laundry or whatever ... though i seriously doubt that people will start to (or ever) disrespect Korea just from those facts ... if there are those who don't like booking club, sexual sauna (WHO THE FUCK DOESN'T?!?!?!?! ehemm ... excuse me), they will just simply look for other things in Korea ... it's not like "eww they have boob massage in Seoul, let's visit somewhere else" ... just my .02 though, i understand your concern susie ... though it's not totally a bad thing as how you have been seeing it ...
@rek. yes. and i'm not unemployed yet. 3 more days. (hooray!!)
@nayumi. i accept your 2 cents. Living in a culture like this as a korean american female can be difficult. and you might be giving the average poster too much credit. I was merely stating that having things like this out in the open - I don't see much use for it. Rek's posts are different to me in that it's they are actual blogs of his crazy night life antics. This one is a "hey look guys, this is what happens in Korea, have a good day!" I'm just being picky about how it was presented that's all. and those are my 2 cents.
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On April 27 2010 15:24 Slasher wrote:
I WISH we could get as detailed posts about this sort of thing in Russian, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Brazil, Sweden, Argentina, Denmark, etc. Someone get to it!
I could do those (from what i remember) but it doesn't come close to what we have here. I'm sure they have lots of crazy things in Moscow, but that's a completely different world, hardly accessible to poor low-lifers like myself (we wouldn't be talking about 2k dollar nights out, it's a lot more than that). Ukraine and Russia literally have nothing fancy going on. No booking clubs, no room salons, just classic prostitution. Of course you can still get anything you want if you have the money.
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I can't believe I read almost every post in this thread, but it was worth it.
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Wow this thread got derailed hard.
I enjoyed reading it, and I know for fact that you can find a lot of these places (minus booking clubs, afaik) in Japan and China (with much worse ventures) as well. Nothing came to me as a shock at all.
Asian men just like this kind of shit. What can you do...
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On April 27 2010 07:39 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please Do you know what "the norm" means? It means normal. So clearly you can see the confusion between your two sentences. Also, I'm glad you are inferring information about a country based on posts about night club culture. How's that working out for you?
Yes Chill I know what "norm" means and it's uses to describe the things that are "allowed" or sanctioned by a society. My pardon if I was confusing.
From OP's post I got the picture that Korea is a very male-oriented society, like many countries unfortunately are in the world. Mostly males go to these clubs and they decide which girls they want to talk to etc etc. It's not just about these clubs, but the underlying beliefs about gender that drives this. Pretty much a basic patriarchy.
The only reason I can see anyone being fine with this is if they really have a hard time approaching women in a "normal" setting. And hell, that's a very egoistical reason.
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