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Calgary25998 Posts
On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please
Do you know what "the norm" means? It means normal. So clearly you can see the confusion between your two sentences.
Also, I'm glad you are inferring information about a country based on posts about night club culture. How's that working out for you?
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It's a very male oriented society everywhere you go, if you blindly ignore all other factors that caters to females. These establishment and clubs exists not just in Korea. I could say Japan is a female oriented society if I solely and narrowly base my fact that "for-female" clubs exists where the guy caters to the female interest, but that would be ridiculous and absurd of me to even expressed that as fact.
The situation in clubs (from what I read in OP's post), is that the girls are able to leave at will (sometimes they just stay longer to be nice), if they don't find the male companion clicks with them. Nothing is forcing them to be "sex slaves" which is the attitude I find from you post. I'm sure "for-females" club exists in Korea too, as it should if the market exists, just like anywhere else.
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On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please
Maybe you meant "women pleasing men definitely seem to be the norm in Korea (World?)."
You have to understand that most of these girls do this because they choose to. Few are forced but it's hey, it's life.
Sweden has really hot girls by the way. Thumbs up!
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This thread is so epic.  It's causing me HUGE procrastination problems. 
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Calgary25998 Posts
On April 27 2010 07:41 KudoJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please Maybe you meant "women pleasing men definitely seem to be the norm in Korea (World?)." You have to understand that most of these girls do this because they choose to. Few are forced but it's hey, it's life. Sweden has really hot girls by the way. Thumbs up!
You are my favourite poster.
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On April 27 2010 08:09 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 07:41 KudoJoe wrote:On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please Maybe you meant "women pleasing men definitely seem to be the norm in Korea (World?)." You have to understand that most of these girls do this because they choose to. Few are forced but it's hey, it's life. Sweden has really hot girls by the way. Thumbs up! You are my favourite poster.
I think we click. Want to go night clubbing? =p
It's an experience you all should try though!
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On April 27 2010 07:41 KudoJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please Maybe you meant "women pleasing men definitely seem to be the norm in Korea (World?)." You have to understand that most of these girls do this because they choose to. Few are forced but it's hey, it's life. Sweden has really hot girls by the way. Thumbs up!
sweden. its true
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Calgary25998 Posts
On April 27 2010 08:29 KudoJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 08:09 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 07:41 KudoJoe wrote:On April 27 2010 07:18 Foucault wrote:On April 27 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:On April 27 2010 05:36 Foucault wrote:
All I'm saying is that men definately seem to be the norm in Korea. What the hell does this sentence mean? What the hell can it possibly mean? It's a very male oriented society it seems. Women are there to please Maybe you meant "women pleasing men definitely seem to be the norm in Korea (World?)." You have to understand that most of these girls do this because they choose to. Few are forced but it's hey, it's life. Sweden has really hot girls by the way. Thumbs up! You are my favourite poster. I think we click. Want to go night clubbing? =p It's an experience you all should try though!
Sure where are you? Be right there.
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Norway28804 Posts
ive been to both boss and club i
it was fun.. but the whole girls being brought to your table thing didn't appeal at all. but then again (before i got all married anyway) I always just wanted girls to be so impressed by my dancing that they hit on me. and girls hitting on guys seems like a predominantly scandinavian thing. in a country with as much blatant rampant sexism as korea, this kind of thing isn't very strange.
but thinking that the korean room salon / clubbing scene is not ridiculously sexist is just silly.
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On April 27 2010 04:42 DanCeWithDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 02:33 Ack1027 wrote:On April 26 2010 16:21 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On April 26 2010 15:52 Ack1027 wrote:
So....you love your girlfriend but you fuck ee cha girls cuz it would be unprofessional to refuse? In Korean culture, refusing your host is a VERY big nono. It's borderline insulting. And people who can afford to go to those places are not people you want to be insulting. Especially in a corporate/business scenario. I am Korean, but thanks for the lesson. I'm sure he's thinking about his girlfriend and how respectful and polite he's being while he fucks whores. I love how you come in here with no knowledge about the real world and try to act like you are 'above' someone for whatever reason. You all have some convoluted ideal of the way a relationship should be and if it's not exactly like that the person causing the difference is evil or something. You say you're Korean but you must have grown up in USA or something to be talking like this. In the real world, relationships aren't perfect. People cheat all the time on eachother or 'almost' cheat. Me having to do it sometimes due to my livelihood does not make me evil. It's a double-edged sword for me. I physically enjoy it at the time but I also wish deep down emotionally that I didn't have to do it for the sake of my job. Now you might argue that if I were a real man that I'd refuse to do it and find other work, but in the real world this isn't realistic at all. I value my job and position and if I have to stick my dick into a beautiful woman from time to time on one of my client's expense then I'll do it and not feel too bad about it. If you really think about it: As long as I am very cautious with using protection and getting STD tested, which I am, and as long as my girlfriend never finds out no harm can ever come to anything. Infact only good can come from it. I am making good cash for us and I am also made a happy man for an hour from time to time. The difference between cheaters in the normal world is that they are people like married men who fall in love with a secret lover and it retracts from their relationships. Or boyfriends who start treating their girlfriends like shit because they like a new girl better but they also wanna be getting laid by both so he stays with with both. Thats not what I'm doing at all. I'm merely taking one for the team.
I am above you. The fact that you wish you didn't have to do it ' for the sake of your job ' says enough. You say you speak English and Korean but you must have grown up in Korea to think that the word ' Livelihood ' means you must be a VIP host at a casino.
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like it matters whether you feel that you're "above" someone or not
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On April 27 2010 09:13 Ack1027 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 04:42 DanCeWithDevil wrote:On April 27 2010 02:33 Ack1027 wrote:On April 26 2010 16:21 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On April 26 2010 15:52 Ack1027 wrote:
So....you love your girlfriend but you fuck ee cha girls cuz it would be unprofessional to refuse? In Korean culture, refusing your host is a VERY big nono. It's borderline insulting. And people who can afford to go to those places are not people you want to be insulting. Especially in a corporate/business scenario. I am Korean, but thanks for the lesson. I'm sure he's thinking about his girlfriend and how respectful and polite he's being while he fucks whores. I love how you come in here with no knowledge about the real world and try to act like you are 'above' someone for whatever reason. You all have some convoluted ideal of the way a relationship should be and if it's not exactly like that the person causing the difference is evil or something. You say you're Korean but you must have grown up in USA or something to be talking like this. In the real world, relationships aren't perfect. People cheat all the time on eachother or 'almost' cheat. Me having to do it sometimes due to my livelihood does not make me evil. It's a double-edged sword for me. I physically enjoy it at the time but I also wish deep down emotionally that I didn't have to do it for the sake of my job. Now you might argue that if I were a real man that I'd refuse to do it and find other work, but in the real world this isn't realistic at all. I value my job and position and if I have to stick my dick into a beautiful woman from time to time on one of my client's expense then I'll do it and not feel too bad about it. If you really think about it: As long as I am very cautious with using protection and getting STD tested, which I am, and as long as my girlfriend never finds out no harm can ever come to anything. Infact only good can come from it. I am making good cash for us and I am also made a happy man for an hour from time to time. The difference between cheaters in the normal world is that they are people like married men who fall in love with a secret lover and it retracts from their relationships. Or boyfriends who start treating their girlfriends like shit because they like a new girl better but they also wanna be getting laid by both so he stays with with both. Thats not what I'm doing at all. I'm merely taking one for the team. I am above you. The fact that you wish you didn't have to do it ' for the sake of your job ' says enough. You say you speak English and Korean but you must have grown up in Korea to think that the word ' Livelihood ' means you must be a VIP host at a casino.
Not of us are all extremely multi-talented and have infinite avenues that we can take in life to make money as you appear to have. I kind of fell into the job I have and unless I want to go back to making 1500$ a month as opposed to the 8,000$ I make per month now then I really have no choice but to continue sometimes having sex with beautiful women against my will. Oh well thats life I guess.
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On April 27 2010 09:26 DanCeWithDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 09:13 Ack1027 wrote:On April 27 2010 04:42 DanCeWithDevil wrote:On April 27 2010 02:33 Ack1027 wrote:On April 26 2010 16:21 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On April 26 2010 15:52 Ack1027 wrote:
So....you love your girlfriend but you fuck ee cha girls cuz it would be unprofessional to refuse? In Korean culture, refusing your host is a VERY big nono. It's borderline insulting. And people who can afford to go to those places are not people you want to be insulting. Especially in a corporate/business scenario. I am Korean, but thanks for the lesson. I'm sure he's thinking about his girlfriend and how respectful and polite he's being while he fucks whores. I love how you come in here with no knowledge about the real world and try to act like you are 'above' someone for whatever reason. You all have some convoluted ideal of the way a relationship should be and if it's not exactly like that the person causing the difference is evil or something. You say you're Korean but you must have grown up in USA or something to be talking like this. In the real world, relationships aren't perfect. People cheat all the time on eachother or 'almost' cheat. Me having to do it sometimes due to my livelihood does not make me evil. It's a double-edged sword for me. I physically enjoy it at the time but I also wish deep down emotionally that I didn't have to do it for the sake of my job. Now you might argue that if I were a real man that I'd refuse to do it and find other work, but in the real world this isn't realistic at all. I value my job and position and if I have to stick my dick into a beautiful woman from time to time on one of my client's expense then I'll do it and not feel too bad about it. If you really think about it: As long as I am very cautious with using protection and getting STD tested, which I am, and as long as my girlfriend never finds out no harm can ever come to anything. Infact only good can come from it. I am making good cash for us and I am also made a happy man for an hour from time to time. The difference between cheaters in the normal world is that they are people like married men who fall in love with a secret lover and it retracts from their relationships. Or boyfriends who start treating their girlfriends like shit because they like a new girl better but they also wanna be getting laid by both so he stays with with both. Thats not what I'm doing at all. I'm merely taking one for the team. I am above you. The fact that you wish you didn't have to do it ' for the sake of your job ' says enough. You say you speak English and Korean but you must have grown up in Korea to think that the word ' Livelihood ' means you must be a VIP host at a casino. Not of us are all extremely multi-talented and have infinite avenues that we can in life to make money as you appear to have. I kind of fell into the job I have and unless I want to go back to making 1500$ a month as opposed to the 8,000$ I make per month now then I really have no choice but to continue sometimes having sex with beautiful women against my will. Oh well thats life I guess.
Damn...you're basically getting paid to have sex with beautiful women against your own will. You're no better than those poor Korean girls! JK
DanCeWithDevil's casino life is nowhere near as bad as Las Vegas. You get some nasty hookers over there and some bad nasty white powdered drugs. But seriously, whats up with the criticism over someones life? DanCe is doing what he has to do to get by in life. You only seem to be above him because you have only lived in your own bubble which is a completely different bubble from DanCe. That is a good thing, but that gives you no right to criticize his life.
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Yeah it's not like I came here bragging at all. I came here merely to inform and now these kids who have no clue about anything are getting all up in arms at me because I 'cheat' on my girlfriend. Oh how the media brainwashes people, it's so funny.
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HonestTea
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People - travel more.
And wherever you are, see more.
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While most people do know this exists, I think my issue is that Korea is the country that is being spotlighted. And as you've seen already from several post responses, even though you preface your post by saying that this is just one small portion of the underground, night life... many still gather the assumption is that Korea is ONLY a hedonistic, male chauvinistic, sex crazed culture. That's not exactly how I want my country to be described as. (there's more to Korea than this!!)
On the topic of night clubs, as a female, it IS kinda fun to go around to different tables, talking to different guys. When I get into a room I pretend to be anyone I want, make fake names, pretend I can't speak Korean or English depending on the situation. It's been a LONG time since I went with my girlfriends (probably back in high school or college) but we all used to go with the intention of meeting back up before leaving the club. It was for free booze and giggles. (and to laugh at the pathetic guys - cuz while some guys were cool, my GOD there are some pathetic, ugly, fat, balding sweaty men out there who think that by just flaunting money they can get in my pants.) The night clubs are definitely not "bad" and the girls are all normal girls.
Note to girls: If possible, rent a phone for the night so that when a guy asks for your number, you give him that one and never hear from him again. Either that or get a prepaid phone that you can cancel or just use for clubbing nights.
As for going with a group of guys, usually I'll sit with the guy who has a girlfriend and DOESN'T want to be booked (yes, some guys here have morals that they stick to) or I just go out and get booked myself. Kinda sucks to get booked when you have a bf and don't really wanna talk to/get groped by other guys.
However, the cheating thing.. I see that your work > respect for your girlfriend. But then again, if you have a Korean-Korean girlfriend I'm sure she already knows and doesn't care cuz you're bringing home the cash. Sigh.
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This culture is everywhere, wake the fuck up. It's a money-making machinery thats beyond comprehension and it's global. The dark culture will always be present due to the desire of human nature with big money. Sexism will always exist for this reason.
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What is dark about people having sex? It's natural. We've just found ways to spice it up with odd rituals like booking, anmas, etc. There's nothing dark about it. It's just good sensual fun. Everyone likes sexy!
And it's not sexist. On a general level, women like men who can provide, and men like women who are physically attractive. Guys want one commodity, girls want another. There's no inherent inequality there, just different.
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It's a dark playing ground for adult, I'm not against it at all. But if you fail to see why it's dark then that you need to wake the fuck up.
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Good read and Thank you for educating me ^_^lets wait for the dirty side of japan or china now
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