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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
Suppose you have a group of kids. There is a standardized test tomorrow and you want them all to do well. Using legal incentives (i.e. no child beating) how do you get them to do better? Money is the most common one but I would prefer if you used a different incentive. I should probably mention that these kids are the ones you would find in the worst public school districts and they couldn't care about this test at all (especially because it has no implications on their grade or future)   | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
what kind of setting? are you a teacher/parent/tutor or what? | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
edit: Our teachers back then will always try to bribe us with "Pizza parties". Everyone likes pizza.  | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On April 16 2010 05:41 Disregard wrote: Probably the most effective/overused bribe teachers would use for their students edit: Our teachers back then will always try to bribe us with "Pizza parties". Everyone likes pizza. Edit: Ice cream parties have the same effect just about. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
back on topic, oh hai caller | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On April 16 2010 05:46 n.DieJokes wrote: Why do you want them to care about something that has no implication on their future... this. it's not like even if you offer them pizza they'll give a damn about whatever the hell they're learning. hell no, they're just doing it for the pizza. come to think of it, if it were me i just wouldn't even bother writing the test. if it has no implication on grade or future or basically anything, then who gives a crap? now i'm confused, what kind of test is this? the best way to get someone to care about something is to show them its worth caring about. | ||
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Neobick
Sweden208 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Of course, it would be difficult to incorporate this (barring a restructure of society, ie having employers strongly consider test scores over other important qualities). If there was an easy way to find out what the students would spend the money on, giving them that is always a good alternative. However, i'm sure thats the reason you created this thread in the first place :|. Perhaps, since they are from low income families, and therefore are likely to not value education as much as other people (especially since their quality of education is below that of high income students), they value free time (as compared to time spent in school) greater, you could give days off of school based on how well they did on the test...but i'm not buying this last argument very much. I'm going to go sleep more. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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FuDDx
United States5015 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
a) This is a standardized test. There's no way to study. b) This is a purely diagnostic test administered through the computer. This has no effect on their futures. c) These kids are in one of the worst school districts in America. And they are 9th/10th grade. Many of them do not come to class and few care about school, let alone this test. I also suspect that they care less about pizza and ice cream than they do about looking cool. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
I work at Far Rockaway Queens and I know kids like your kids. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5529 Posts
if you dont know how start learning now | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On April 16 2010 06:29 Caller wrote: I should clarify things hmm a) This is a standardized test. There's no way to study. :-/ not sure you deserve a resume boost... | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On April 16 2010 06:36 Manifesto7 wrote: Tell them that if they all score over 80% you will teach them how to use a slim jim to unlock car doors. looool. but seriously ~ ask them to try their best. their scores will reflect on how hard they tried if you tried hard then you'll have no regrets | ||
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On April 16 2010 07:16 Gliche wrote: reinforce studying with something they want. give them days off school after the test. this has a double effect in that you get them to do well on the test and when they return some might actually do better in school in general. On April 16 2010 06:29 Caller wrote: I should clarify things hmm a) This is a standardized test. There's no way to study. b) This is a purely diagnostic test administered through the computer. This has no effect on their futures. c) These kids are in one of the worst school districts in America. And they are 9th/10th grade. Many of them do not come to class and few care about school, let alone this test. I also suspect that they care less about pizza and ice cream than they do about looking cool. Umm I don't think they'll come back to school O_O; | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On April 16 2010 07:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: :-/ not sure you deserve a resume boost... For things like state standardized tests, its usually not worth the time to study tbh. | ||
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XinRan
United States530 Posts
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 16 2010 08:29 Romantic wrote: Yeah he only really gives a shit because it will make him look like a good teacher. If you wanted to get paid more, how about you take responsibility for your job and allow more competitive schools eh? you have no idea how ironic this statement is seeing as what I meant by resume material is I may be able to get into a economics paper regarding how to provide incentives for students to improve in bad public schools | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
Edit: yep what XinRan said haha, kids are very competitive. | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
On April 16 2010 10:13 UmmTheHobo wrote: Tell them standardized tests are insanely easy and if they score badly you will make fun of them the rest of the year for being retards This. Nobody likes to get called a retard. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On April 16 2010 06:29 Caller wrote: I should clarify things hmm a) This is a standardized test. There's no way to study. Praaaaaactice test through the night. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 16 2010 15:37 Caller wrote: What about sending a letter to the parents saying (and actually doing it) that if their kid does well on the test we send the family $20? Doesn't that violate your rule of not giving them money XD (although its technically not the same). Obviously, cash transfers are always the most ideal form of subsidization for utility maximization. (I think D | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On April 16 2010 15:25 love1another wrote: This. Nobody likes to get called a retard. Tell them before that the lowest 20% will be classified as mentally handicapped and transferred to a special school for special people | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
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neVern
United States115 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
Say something they will want a stereo system/I-pod/a gun... ect. EDIT: Just read page 2-3. I think this idea (previously) mentioned is the best by far. | ||
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Pawsom
United States928 Posts
On April 17 2010 04:05 BuGzlToOnl wrote: If you get over say 85% you go automatically go into a raffle to win a certain prize(s). Say something they will want a stereo system/I-pod/a gun... ect. EDIT: Just read page 2-3. I think this idea (previously) mentioned is the best by far. lol god damn | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On April 16 2010 06:29 Caller wrote: a) This is a standardized test. There's no way to study. You must not have asian parents. jk. and fear is always a good motivational tool.... | ||
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