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XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 02:48:20
April 10 2010 02:47 GMT
#1
The summer before college is now coming up, a time that many credential whoring high school students such as myself look forward to as a period to goof off before starting to whore credentials for [insert next station in life]. Sadly, due to my D- rank in getting into top colleges, my parents have decided that sending me to an expensive private school is a mistake and have resolved not to repeat the mistake my requiring me to pay half my college tuition.

So here I am, a high school senior with no job experience faced with the prospect of finding a job in a tough economy. I have already applied to jobs I don't care about such as Subway, Staples, and a laser tag joint called LazerZone, plus dropped off a resume (read: list of academic achievements and scores from bullshit standardized tests) at Kumon. I also applied for a position in Google Summer of Code, a job I actually want (link) today, but I have no chance of getting it because I am too young and turned in my proposal late. I'm currently fishing for similar Java programming internships, but I don't know where to even start. So what was your first job, and how did you find it?

"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 02:52:19
April 10 2010 02:51 GMT
#2
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time. get a job on campus.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
April 10 2010 02:52 GMT
#3
My first OFFICIAL job was teaching English in Korea. Even then, it wasn't even in US. But my first first very first job that was bs and small change was being a "TA" at SAT summer program at my church which I was not even a TA to begin with. So I suppose that makes me not having a first real job even today... I wonder what will it be for me too...
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 02:55:02
April 10 2010 02:54 GMT
#4
On April 10 2010 11:51 omninmo wrote:
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time.

The whole point of this blog was the fact that he has to support and pay half of the tution SO THAT he can go to school. How the hell is he suppose to start school early when he doesn't have ANY MONEY?

*edit* saw your ninja edit, I doubt they hire incoming freshman for a campus job... I could be wrong though..
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
April 10 2010 03:13 GMT
#5
On April 10 2010 11:54 QuickStriker wrote:
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On April 10 2010 11:51 omninmo wrote:
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time.

The whole point of this blog was the fact that he has to support and pay half of the tution SO THAT he can go to school. How the hell is he suppose to start school early when he doesn't have ANY MONEY?

*edit* saw your ninja edit, I doubt they hire incoming freshman for a campus job... I could be wrong though..


wasnt a ninja edit.. i edited immediately after posting. i worked and went to school all the while. what do you mean they dont hire freshman? i meant to get a job stocking books in the library or working in the cafeteria bro. otherwise just get a job at a local restaurant or something.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 10 2010 03:20 GMT
#6
Where are you located, where will you be attending college, and how good are you with Java?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
April 10 2010 03:21 GMT
#7
my first job is at dicks sporting good. i was very lucky when i applied online, they called me next morning lol. they told me i could be cashier or work in footwear. so i picked footwear and its been awesome
Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
April 10 2010 03:56 GMT
#8
Thanks for the replies!
On April 10 2010 11:54 QuickStriker wrote:
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On April 10 2010 11:51 omninmo wrote:
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time.

The whole point of this blog was the fact that he has to support and pay half of the tution SO THAT he can go to school. How the hell is he suppose to start school early when he doesn't have ANY MONEY?

*edit* saw your ninja edit, I doubt they hire incoming freshman for a campus job... I could be wrong though..

Most schools have payment options where you delay payments until later in the year. I could do that, and work a job during the year to pay it off. Worse comes worse, I will take a loan. Moving on campus early sounds like win though. It eliminates the problem of getting rid of the furniture in my current dorm room.
On April 10 2010 12:20 Cambium wrote:
Where are you located, where will you be attending college, and how good are you with Java?

I am currently at a boarding school, but otherwise I live in Massachusetts, near Framingham. I am deciding between Dartmouth and Amherst, but I am leaning towards Dartmouth b/c it's an awesome school and they gave me much more aid. I only have one year and a half years of experience with Java, which is one of the reasons why I can't do the Google project. Those types of internships are hard to come by T_T
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 05:48:32
April 10 2010 05:48 GMT
#9
My first job was at a kitchen appliance store. Working is over rated, finish your education then get a job.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 10 2010 05:57 GMT
#10
Come to Dartmouth Dimensions, you'll love it here~~~
posting on liquid sites in current year
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 10 2010 06:04 GMT
#11
On April 10 2010 11:51 omninmo wrote:
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time. get a job on campus.

yesss i agree with this.
never ever overload yourself on classes.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 10 2010 09:18 GMT
#12
On April 10 2010 12:56 XinRan wrote:
Thanks for the replies!
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On April 10 2010 11:54 QuickStriker wrote:
On April 10 2010 11:51 omninmo wrote:
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time.

The whole point of this blog was the fact that he has to support and pay half of the tution SO THAT he can go to school. How the hell is he suppose to start school early when he doesn't have ANY MONEY?

*edit* saw your ninja edit, I doubt they hire incoming freshman for a campus job... I could be wrong though..

Most schools have payment options where you delay payments until later in the year. I could do that, and work a job during the year to pay it off. Worse comes worse, I will take a loan. Moving on campus early sounds like win though. It eliminates the problem of getting rid of the furniture in my current dorm room.
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On April 10 2010 12:20 Cambium wrote:
Where are you located, where will you be attending college, and how good are you with Java?

I am currently at a boarding school, but otherwise I live in Massachusetts, near Framingham. I am deciding between Dartmouth and Amherst, but I am leaning towards Dartmouth b/c it's an awesome school and they gave me much more aid. I only have one year and a half years of experience with Java, which is one of the reasons why I can't do the Google project. Those types of internships are hard to come by T_T


I asked primarily because I have contacts in SF Bay area where they like to take talented university-level interns (for either Java- or web-dev positions). Since you are motivated and driven, I figured, if you were in the area, I could potentially recommend you for an interview. But you aren't

Best of luck with your endeavours. Dartmouth is a great school.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 10:28:56
April 10 2010 10:26 GMT
#13
Haha why isn't ur parents happy with Dartmouth?
How many sibling do you have?

I'm the only child so I enjoy full support from my family but I guess the same cannot be said for others :/

In all cases there are plenty of jobs availible in the university, I worked as a tutor for a semester, 5 hours a week 12.5 dollars/hr, it's pretty light hearted job and doesn't require much (as long as you own at the subject you tutor) and you can basically do homework on your job if no students come.
Other jobs too, cafeteria needs bunch, library, security monitor for dorms (one of the "best" jobs where all you do is swipe people in the dorm, you baiscally just SIT there for 4 hours doing homework while they pay you, great!)
Most jobs will actually pay higher in a sense that perhaps, not in my school but maybe in yours, they pay some pocket money for you and the rest goes for your tuition, so it really is amazing.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
April 10 2010 10:47 GMT
#14
My first job was digging ice cream at a baskin robbins. A friend hooked me up for it.

VERY quickly I turned to private tutoring though...you need a bit of brain and need to market yourself, but the return is worth it.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
April 10 2010 14:37 GMT
#15
My first job was teaching at a kumon center
My first official job was as a research assistant in an agricultural lab
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
April 10 2010 15:16 GMT
#16
I have absolutely no job experience and most of my 'marketing' accomplishments can't be written down. Also, I recently obtained a criminal record, so, no job experience + criminal record = NO JOB!

Why do I try to win the system over?
If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
April 10 2010 18:05 GMT
#17
Tutor the Asian kids and impress their parents with your SAT scores ... then rake in the money. If you really do have the credentials you can probably charge $30 an hour or more.
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
April 10 2010 19:13 GMT
#18
LOLOLOL @ parents pissed because you 'only' got into Dartmouth.
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
April 11 2010 06:50 GMT
#19
On April 10 2010 14:57 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Come to Dartmouth Dimensions, you'll love it here~~~

I will, but I am trying to decide whether to go starting Thursday or Friday. Most likely, I will go on Thursday with two of my friends.
On April 10 2010 19:47 KH1031 wrote:
My first job was digging ice cream at a baskin robbins. A friend hooked me up for it.

VERY quickly I turned to private tutoring though...you need a bit of brain and need to market yourself, but the return is worth it.

Can anyone who did this elaborate please? What kind of credentials did you have, and how did you market yourself? The only tutors I know about are the ones who did something like win a Presidential Scholarship, and then the news spread through word of mouth through the Chinese community.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
April 11 2010 08:39 GMT
#20
a few days after dropping your resume off call and ask to talk to the person in charge of hiring. then ask if they have looked over your resume and if u can come in for an interview. this will improve your chances immensely. it has in my xp.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 14:30:54
April 11 2010 14:30 GMT
#21
On April 11 2010 15:50 XinRan wrote:
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On April 10 2010 14:57 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Come to Dartmouth Dimensions, you'll love it here~~~

I will, but I am trying to decide whether to go starting Thursday or Friday. Most likely, I will go on Thursday with two of my friends.
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 19:47 KH1031 wrote:
My first job was digging ice cream at a baskin robbins. A friend hooked me up for it.

VERY quickly I turned to private tutoring though...you need a bit of brain and need to market yourself, but the return is worth it.

Can anyone who did this elaborate please? What kind of credentials did you have, and how did you market yourself? The only tutors I know about are the ones who did something like win a Presidential Scholarship, and then the news spread through word of mouth through the Chinese community.


If you are a part of a church it should be pretty simple to ask around or get your parents to drop the word to other parents that you're tutoring kids for SAT or whatever subject you feel comfortable tutoring. Same with if you're part of or went to a Chinese School (the ones on Sat that teach American kids Chinese).

A lot depends on how connected you are to your community. Because if you're not you'll have to work at getting your name out. You'll just have to say I got a blah blah on my SAT (hopefully it's some somewhat impressive number) and say you're willing to tutor. I've found that Asian parents ... even when you don't mention money will overpay you ... I was offered $30 for 2 hours twice a week and I was expecting $15-20.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
April 11 2010 17:52 GMT
#22
unless you're a professional SAT TA, I wouldnt charge over 17.50
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 11 2010 19:01 GMT
#23
LOL in what world does Amherst and Dartmouth equal D- ranking??

My summer jobs during high school have been as a camp counselor... I've done easier camp jobs where all I did was lifeguard and teach kids how to swim in a pool, and more intense away-from-home jobs where I had to teach campers how to sail, snorkel, etc in the ocean. It was more stressful, but both were pretty fun ways to work over the summer. If your old elementary school runs a summer camp, that may be an easy way to apply. I don't know how good the pay is though in comparison to your other options. For the easier camp job I got paid around $10/hour as a high schooler.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 20:17:11
April 11 2010 20:13 GMT
#24
On April 10 2010 11:51 omninmo wrote:
go start school early. i took year long school from summer before my freshman year all throughout. if you have a decent college town then it rules. take 4-8 hours every summer and then you dont need to take a full load during the spring fall. this is allows you to play and go to school at the same time. get a job on campus.


This allows you to get raped by school fees EVERY SINGLE SEMESTER. FUck that.. Work over the summer unless you can really afford it.

first job ---> skating rink when i was 15...
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
April 11 2010 20:50 GMT
#25
I started tutoring at like $20~$25/hour tutoring highschool students since about gr. 10. I really doubt your parents are reallly mad about you getting into Darthmouth, They probably don't wanna spoil you :D
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DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
April 11 2010 22:29 GMT
#26
Well, I suppose the parents being mad at him for getting into Dartmouth thing has to do with the expensive private school stuff. I assume he went to like an Ivy League feeder school, or something comparable, and given the reputation those schools have for sending students into top 10 very, very regularly, I suppose the parents expected a lot more out of him.

That being said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with Dartmouth and I probably could've ended up there myself.

As for the above advice about summer school, I'm not sure I agree. Taking summer school at privates cost a lot of money, and I wouldn't be taking summer school at Duke here if I wasn't given a lot of financial aid. There's not much of a real necessity, and if you're doing it just to underload in your semester classes, that's a bad idea. You're essentially not getting as much money per class, and since money is an issue, it's probably not a wise choice.

As for job, I had it relatively easy as there are plenty of science labs around that would accept you as an intern, as long as you're willing to work for dirt cheap. Although I suppose that's basically the definition of an intern in the first place...

I do agree with getting a job on campus if you can manage it during the school year. I know plenty of people that do work-study. However, be aware of course the load it could have on your academics.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 12 2010 00:37 GMT
#27
summer school at cc? O_o pretty cheap and if u have financial aid, somewhat free lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
April 12 2010 19:40 GMT
#28
I suppose that's possible, but you would have to make sure that the credits you're taking at the CC transfers over. When I took Differential Equations at my CC when I ran out of math to take in my senior year, Duke didn't accept the credits, so although it was free for me, it was a complete waste of my time.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
April 12 2010 21:25 GMT
#29
On April 12 2010 09:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
summer school at cc? O_o pretty cheap and if u have financial aid, somewhat free lol


Ok that's a whole different story> I was thinking university
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
April 12 2010 23:51 GMT
#30
i think my first job was actually at kumon. I did it sophomore year for the whole fall until tennis season. It's really easy. Those kids are reading noobs.

Though some of them are intimidatingly smart.
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 12 2010 23:57 GMT
#31
When I went to college I worked in the cafeteria, ended up working there all four years of undergrad. I think my pay peaked at like 9.50 an hour when I was a higher level student supervisor. But now in grad school I make a $7,500 stipend per every 10 month appointment as a Graduate Staff Assistant. When all I do is write reports every two weeks and look after some undergrad tutors and stuff :D
Never Knows Best.
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
April 13 2010 01:20 GMT
#32
On April 12 2010 04:01 madnessman wrote:
LOL in what world does Amherst and Dartmouth equal D- ranking??

On April 02 2010 15:34 XinRan wrote:
Might as well post. College admissions </3

Harvard: rejected
Yale: rejected
Princeton: rejected
Stanford: rejected
MIT: rejected
University of Pennsylvania: rejected
Brown: wait list
Duke: wait list
University of Chicago: wait list
Caltech: wait list
Amherst: accepted
Dartmouth: accepted
University of Michigan: accepted

3-13 is a D- record, if you ask me. I'm not complaining though; Dartmouth and Amherst are great choices.
On April 12 2010 07:29 DarkOptik wrote:
Well, I suppose the parents being mad at him for getting into Dartmouth thing has to do with the expensive private school stuff. I assume he went to like an Ivy League feeder school, or something comparable, and given the reputation those schools have for sending students into top 10 very, very regularly, I suppose the parents expected a lot more out of him.

Exactly right. Part of it is my personality too. I'm kind of disillusioned about the college admissions process, where kids prepare for trivial standardized tests like 7 years in advance, create clubs just to get a leadership position, take classes that look hard on paper but are in fact a joke, etc. Because I actively resist credential whoring, my parents feel that I am not ambitious enough to make private school worth it.
On April 12 2010 09:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
summer school at cc? O_o pretty cheap and if u have financial aid, somewhat free lol

Dunno if that's worth it. I've been to a summer program at a small-time private university, and the classes weren't that great. I think I'd rather spend that time making money to possibly reduce the amount of work I need to do during the school year.
On April 13 2010 08:51 Always wrote:
i think my first job was actually at kumon. I did it sophomore year for the whole fall until tennis season. It's really easy. Those kids are reading noobs.

Though some of them are intimidatingly smart.

I think places like Kumon and Kaplan are my best bet. I would prefer to privately tutor, but I have absolutely no community exposure after moving to Massachusetts last year, especially because I go to boarding school.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 13 2010 07:44 GMT
#33
poker :D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 13 2010 08:02 GMT
#34
On April 13 2010 10:20 XinRan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 04:01 madnessman wrote:
LOL in what world does Amherst and Dartmouth equal D- ranking??

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2010 15:34 XinRan wrote:
Might as well post. College admissions </3

Harvard: rejected
Yale: rejected
Princeton: rejected
Stanford: rejected
MIT: rejected
University of Pennsylvania: rejected
Brown: wait list
Duke: wait list
University of Chicago: wait list
Caltech: wait list
Amherst: accepted
Dartmouth: accepted
University of Michigan: accepted

3-13 is a D- record, if you ask me. I'm not complaining though; Dartmouth and Amherst are great choices.

If you have a D- then 95% of all students have Fs.
But why?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 13 2010 10:40 GMT
#35
^ sounds about right actually
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 13 2010 13:36 GMT
#36
My older sister did SAT tutoring with one of those SAT prep classes one year. She got paid a ridiculous amount of money for a part time job which allowed her a lot of freedom. Now that I'm graduating from HS my parents want me to get a job over summer but I really want to go to a snowboard camp. It's like 6k USD out of my budget though. QQ
RawrAnOcean
Profile Joined February 2006
United States359 Posts
April 13 2010 15:45 GMT
#37
After High School I just polished my resume by putting emphasis on my classes and I got a sweet job. Industrial Engineer, probably the 2nd best job I got during my young days. Then if you got such a great job on your resume then watch the jobs rack in.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
April 13 2010 16:05 GMT
#38
My first job was that of a high school janitor. I went to an expensive, private high school and couldn't afford it, but the dominican nuns running the school let me work as a janitor for $10/hr credited off tuition.

The rest of my jobs aren't exactly what you would call 'usual':

1). High School Janitor (with quite a bit of landscaping one summer)
2). Cutco Knife Salesman (that's right, I sold knives...)
3). Inventory Auditor (I counted stuff...)
4). Conference Associate (I worked a desk during the summer at college. Highlights were medieval studies conference, cheerleader camp, and large mormon conference (all very weird)).
5). Resident Assistant (HIGHLY recommend it!)
6). Engineering Intern at a Paper Mill (I helped engineer toilet paper...)

It looks like #7 will be an internship at a different mill this summer, and then off to graduate school to be a research assistant!
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