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Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
March 28 2010 16:21 GMT
#21
too lazy to drill few holes and buy a roll of utp cable?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 28 2010 16:49 GMT
#22
On March 29 2010 01:21 Pakje wrote:
too lazy to drill few holes and buy a roll of utp cable?


dont know how. i've never taken a CS or shop class in my life.
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Eiserne
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 16:53:01
March 28 2010 16:52 GMT
#23
Get a drill.
Point it at the wall
Pull the trigger
put the cable through the whole (think penis into vagina)
??? (how fitting)
success.
Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
March 28 2010 17:10 GMT
#24
here are some ideas that might work:

-the wireless is limited by the usb bandwidth (complete theoretical I dont know if it's true)
-disable a/b so only g network remains
-enlarge your antenna
-buy an n wireless router + card
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 18:04:38
March 28 2010 18:00 GMT
#25
On March 29 2010 01:09 mOnion wrote:
did my speed test

[image loading]


apparently, my internet is SHITTY >_<


I know practically nothing about livestreaming, but I'm pretty sure that your connection to your ISP is the problem. What bitrate video are you trying to stream up? For reference, I watched somebody else's stream (Nony's), and it was about 0.9 Mb/s down.

I'm guessing your Wi-Fi is 802.11g, which people started to use around 2004. Over that wireless connection you can send around 20 Mb/s of actual data as a conservative estimate. (edit: and if you have the ancient 802.11b, that's still about 7 Mb/s or more of actual data transfer speed) However, your connection to your ISP is like 0.16 Mb/s upload, so that's obviously the bottleneck.

Can you turn all of your video quality, resolution, and fps settings down to the minimum? I seem to recall some old BW streams being like 128 Kb/s = 0.128 Mb/s, so your upload capacity might be able to support that.

edit: modern USB (USB 2.0, as in from the last decade) is 480 Mb/s nominally, so no matter what kind of overheads exist, I wouldn't worry about that either.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 28 2010 18:37 GMT
#26
yeah you're going to want a better internet connection. follow Eiserne's professional advice.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 28 2010 19:12 GMT
#27
try to get a long ethernet cable that can reach your router man. or move the router closer...
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 28 2010 19:15 GMT
#28
On March 29 2010 01:09 mOnion wrote:
did my speed test

[image loading]


apparently, my internet is SHITTY >_<

Something's going on. Probably your ISP/plan just sucks hard, or you have some horrible wiring or something. If a direct connection to your router doesn't fix your problem, get better internets
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 28 2010 19:55 GMT
#29
hmm

i cant drill holes cuz its a new house x.x

and my landlord/roomate wont want a cord along the middle of the room.

i hate verizon T.T
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 28 2010 20:47 GMT
#30
did you do that test over the wireless or over the cable? because you cannot trust a speedtest done over wireless because of the fact that you, on wlan, only have a half-duplex connection. I'd say redo the test with a cable from your computer to the router (or just from another computer connected to the router) and you'll get real results.

If it's an option I'd also say try to bypass the router and see if you get about the same speeds then. If you do that you can see if it's your router that's bottlenecking the whole deal or if it's your ISP. Then it's easy to know who to call and yell at
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Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
March 28 2010 20:51 GMT
#31
try internet through the electricity circuit
[image loading]


here's somemore information, I can 't say whether it's good or bad
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9127759/Review_5_power_line_devices_that_take_you_online_where_Ethernet_or_Wi_Fi_can_t_
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
March 28 2010 20:54 GMT
#32
On March 29 2010 01:09 mOnion wrote:
did my speed test

[image loading]


apparently, my internet is SHITTY >_<


lol
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 28 2010 22:12 GMT
#33
Honestly though, do you remember what speeds are in the plan you're paying for from Verizon? If they're significantly lower most of the time, you probably want to troubleshoot your connection. Keep in mind you're paying for "best effort" service, so they in no way guarantee they can provide up to the max at all times.

TBH those numbers are not far off the highest speeds you can buy in many parts of the country that have broadband at all, so it might just be Internet availability in your area. It's just not physically possible to get transfer speeds above X amount given certain circumstances.

I can guarantee that Wi-Fi is not limiting your upload speeds, though. If you can get 3 Mb/s from your router to your computer, that almost always means that you can get the same from your computer to your router. Forget about drilling holes in walls unless you want to directly connect to your modem to check line stats, SNR margins, etc. Check dslreports.com if you want info on how to diagnose your connection.
mgj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
191 Posts
March 29 2010 04:27 GMT
#34
On March 28 2010 16:01 zealing wrote:
O_o ???

but ya dont do wifi man i had to use it before and i got like 20 fps in WoW then moved to the room where i could plug directly in it and got 65+ fps -_-


Sorry, no. This is a lie. FPS has nothing to do with your internet connection.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 29 2010 04:42 GMT
#35
On March 29 2010 07:12 Myrmidon wrote:
Honestly though, do you remember what speeds are in the plan you're paying for from Verizon? If they're significantly lower most of the time, you probably want to troubleshoot your connection. Keep in mind you're paying for "best effort" service, so they in no way guarantee they can provide up to the max at all times.

TBH those numbers are not far off the highest speeds you can buy in many parts of the country that have broadband at all, so it might just be Internet availability in your area. It's just not physically possible to get transfer speeds above X amount given certain circumstances.

I can guarantee that Wi-Fi is not limiting your upload speeds, though. If you can get 3 Mb/s from your router to your computer, that almost always means that you can get the same from your computer to your router. Forget about drilling holes in walls unless you want to directly connect to your modem to check line stats, SNR margins, etc. Check dslreports.com if you want info on how to diagnose your connection.


dude thx for the help, you've been amazing.

double checking my service, i think the numbers are accurate and thats just the best i can get.

the plan's supposed to be 3mb DL, and 768 Kbps upload. so the numbers are accurate, which means my wifi connection is fine. which mean my internet just sucks in this area apparently x.x
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 29 2010 04:46 GMT
#36
0.16Mb/s is way less than 768kbps. Is someone whoring torrents or something on the connection?
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 29 2010 05:21 GMT
#37
orly? nope, no one torrents here.

i am worried though that the reason the internet is slow is because of some weird activation thing. aka, we havent gotten an internet bill since we moved in BUT im on the internet now and have been since we turned it on.

sooooo x.x

its like our internet numbers are weird, i had this problem before when i tried to foward my router

IP address: 10.0.0.12
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 10.0.0.1
DNS Server: 10.0.0.1

which are weird right? another guy i had help me was like DA FAWK? to those numbers. so all of this together makes me think somethings askew x.x
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 29 2010 06:09 GMT
#38
On March 29 2010 14:21 mOnion wrote:
IP address: 10.0.0.12
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 10.0.0.1
DNS Server: 10.0.0.1


Those numbers are not strange and don't by themselves indicate a problem. 10.x.y.z numbers are valid for local networks like your home network consisting of the computers and your router. Those 10.x.y.z addresses are reserved for local private networks and no actual destination visible on the Internet will have such an address. The IP address everybody on the outside uses to reach you is something else.

The confusion that the other guy had was that almost all home networking equipment uses a 192.168.1.x or 192.168.0.x (or rarely 172.16.x.y) address. Those are also valid addresses reserved only for local network use.

Like SonuvBob said, 0.16 Mb/s = 160 kb/s is way less than 768 kb/s, so there's definitely something wrong. Try another speed test with all other computers unplugged, to make sure there's no other traffic hogging bandwidth. You might as well try at another time of day too. Some ISP networks are getting overcongested in primetime hours. Also it's possible to have weird condensation/weather related things screwing up the line. Possibly there's bad wiring in your home mucking up the connection to the ISP, as others have mentioned. You're going to have to do some standard troubleshooting, which you can look up how to do online.

As you said, you might want to confirm that your connection is properly activated. Sounds plausible to me that you could be getting capped or something if you haven't activated properly. You can probably call Verizon to check.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 29 2010 06:17 GMT
#39
On March 29 2010 15:09 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 14:21 mOnion wrote:
IP address: 10.0.0.12
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 10.0.0.1
DNS Server: 10.0.0.1


Those numbers are not strange and don't by themselves indicate a problem. 10.x.y.z numbers are valid for local networks like your home network consisting of the computers and your router. Those 10.x.y.z addresses are reserved for local private networks and no actual destination visible on the Internet will have such an address. The IP address everybody on the outside uses to reach you is something else.

The confusion that the other guy had was that almost all home networking equipment uses a 192.168.1.x or 192.168.0.x (or rarely 172.16.x.y) address. Those are also valid addresses reserved only for local network use.

Like SonuvBob said, 0.16 Mb/s = 160 kb/s is way less than 768 kb/s, so there's definitely something wrong. Try another speed test with all other computers unplugged, to make sure there's no other traffic hogging bandwidth. You might as well try at another time of day too. Some ISP networks are getting overcongested in primetime hours. Also it's possible to have weird condensation/weather related things screwing up the line. Possibly there's bad wiring in your home mucking up the connection to the ISP, as others have mentioned. You're going to have to do some standard troubleshooting, which you can look up how to do online.

As you said, you might want to confirm that your connection is properly activated. Sounds plausible to me that you could be getting capped or something if you haven't activated properly. You can probably call Verizon to check.


dude i love you so much. you put everything so clearly ahhhhhhhhhhh have my babies >_<
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 30 2010 03:36 GMT
#40
so I've tried the 2 solutions mentioned previously

1) tried test with friends' computers off, still same results, even used their computer and tested with my computer off, same thing

2) internet is just billed bi-yearly, so its activated, we just dont get monthly bills

someone mentioned bypassing the router to determine if it was the internet's fault or the routers? how would i go about doing that? just line-in directly to the modem?
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